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AIRBORNE0073 04-07-2007 07:45 PM

BC4
 
so i am looking at a 2002 BC4 with 65000 miles on it , if i was to freshen up the motor and trans , could it take a little more supercharger boost than a regular ls1? with the extra cooling mods it comes with does it make sense that since the enemy of boosted engines is heat the more cooling mods would help ?

blue89vert 04-07-2007 09:01 PM

yeah

AIRBORNE0073 04-07-2007 09:03 PM

so 8-9 pounds of boost is safe ?

blue89vert 04-07-2007 09:07 PM

i suppose it would be with supporting mods to make the engine run cooler or w/e like you said. im no expert on boost...so i honestly dont know but it should work

ITSA6 04-07-2007 10:17 PM

i would say it wouldn't make a difference but that's just me

AIRBORNE0073 04-07-2007 10:23 PM

oil cooler , trans cooler , cant rember the other one , dont come on the reg camaros, so i thought it would help with a little extra boost over the others

ITSA6 04-07-2007 10:27 PM

oil cooler and trans cooler i don't see how a supercharger that runs off the motor would be able to run more than normal. okay sounds like your tranny may run better but i don't think your motor difference would be much

ITSA6 04-07-2007 10:28 PM

either way i would totally buy a BC4 especially if it only had 65000 miles :)

Mike Jones 04-07-2007 10:33 PM

It won't be able to handle more boost than a normal Z28.

Basicly the B4C is a Z28 with no badging, higher output alternator and battery, and larger sway bars.

AIRBORNE0073 04-07-2007 10:34 PM

always heard that cooler the engine the more boost you can run , so oil cooler is a plus i would guess, alosr the silcone hoses i think are cooler

sman 04-08-2007 12:29 PM

I know the oil cooler comes on LT1's, someone here did an article on how to bypass it. Not sure about LS1's tho.

AIRBORNE0073 04-08-2007 01:52 PM

why
 
why would you wanna bypass oil cooler?

Mike Jones 04-08-2007 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by AIRBORNE0073
why would you wanna bypass oil cooler?

I was thinking the same thing.

blue89vert 04-08-2007 02:34 PM

i dunno why you would wanna do that but i think someone here did do that

98CamaroZ28 04-08-2007 03:10 PM

were you thinking about the throttle body bypass?

sman 04-08-2007 03:21 PM

Nope, someone here bypassed the oil cooler on a lt1 bird, I think they did it for more oil pressure.

blue89vert 04-08-2007 03:25 PM

nope your all wrong. im right. haha j/k. here it is though. oil cooler bypass. http://www.projectcamaro.net/forum/s...ghlight=bypass

Mike Jones 04-08-2007 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by gray89vert
nope your all wrong. im right. haha j/k. here it is though. oil cooler bypass. http://www.projectcamaro.net/forum/s...ghlight=bypass

Ok, I didn't realize it would give you better oil pressure. Not a bad idea then.

2000v6cam 04-08-2007 04:20 PM

i think its b4c not bc4 but i dont think the coolers would make much difference in how much boost u could run but they wouldnt hurt, boost would probably effect it the same as any other camaro

NoRiceInside 04-08-2007 06:19 PM

yeah its B4C.

the LT1 oil cooler is crap. all it does is create a water jacket around the oil filter base. so in theory its supposed to cool the oil, but all it does is restrict flow and since the coolant is after the water pump its already hot anyway.

FORCE_FED_Z 04-08-2007 10:45 PM

If you have sufficient cooling with your motor there really isn't a reason to try and cool the oil as well.

As far as cooling the motor for more boost, you are only partially correct. What you really want to cool is the intake air temp or IAT. Hotter air is more likely detonate sooner and therefore you will hurt the motor sooner. The cooler the air temp is, the more boost you can run on the same motor without hurting it. This is of course only true to a certain point. You can only run a certain amount of boost for the motor you have. If your motor is stock then I wouldnt' run anymore than 8 lbs of boost. That should be plenty for you anyway. With a bolt-on motor and 8lbs of boost you should easily be close to the 500rwhp mark.

I would worry more about the condition of the car and not worry so much about different coolers for the car.

98CamaroZ28 04-08-2007 10:48 PM

are you talking S/C? Turbo's need higher boost for more hp right?

97z2801ss 04-09-2007 01:00 AM

b4c, nice Im with Force Fed 6 - 8 is okay i hear on a bolt on motor

FORCE_FED_Z 04-09-2007 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by 98CamaroZ28
are you talking S/C? Turbo's need higher boost for more hp right?

Boost is boost. Turbos don't need anymore PSI to make more power, its just that typically they are used to get higher boost numbers. Typically if you are going to run more than 12-15lbs people normally end up running a turbo or two.

code1145 05-22-2007 10:10 AM

B4C
 
I would buy the B4C too but remember thats the police package. I have one too but was lucky as it was a show car that GM had never titled. Check it out good mechanically cuz cops drive em like they stole em. 65k on a cop car is at least double the normal wear and tear. The only good thing is that fleet cars are maintained better than personal cars. I threw an alarm on it to have the remote since fleet cars didn't have that option then (1996).

69z-28 05-22-2007 02:42 PM

oil cooler was on option on LT1 cars. i beleive it was standard on 6 speed 93 Z-28's. when i did my rear main seal and wanted to drop the oil pan, the oil cooler lines were RIGHT in the way of the oil pan bolts. it was at that point i decided oil coolers sucked.lol. plus like stated, if you have a stock engine and a maintenanced vehicle with proper working cooling components, an oil cooler is not necesary at all.

FORCE_FED_Z 05-22-2007 04:00 PM

Thats correct- If you are running a road course of some-kind then possibly I could see the need for it, but not one that uses the engine coolant to try and lower the temps.. The type that are like a tranny cooler are much better if you are going to run one.


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