2 dead 2 in jail 2 cars seized
 

I don't even know what to say about this.





Brothers Behind Bars In Brampton Crash That Killed Two Friends
Sunday October 7, 2007
CityNews.ca Staff
An early afternoon crash on Saturday left two friends dead, and two brothers behind bars facing multiple charges of criminal negligence causing their deaths.

Tragedy struck when the burgundy Pontiac driven by 49-year-old Cynthia Dougherty and carrying 44-year-old Maria Dalsass was struck by another vehicle on Highway 50 in Brampton. The horrific crash involved six cars and a truck and one other driver was taken to hospital for treatment of minor injuries. The two women weren't so fortunate and died at the scene.

"She was one of those people that you remembered," Cynthia's brother-in-law Mark Dougherty said Sunday. "She always will be remembered by us."

Two other drivers in the crash, brothers Steven Machado, 21, and 27-year-old Brian Machado, were arrested at the scene and had their vehicles -- an Audi and BMW -- and licenses seized by authorities under the province's new anti-aggressive driving legislation.

The speed limit along the stretch where the accident occurred is 80 kilometres an hour, but witnesses allege the two brothers were going almost twice that speed. Both will appear in court Tuesday.

As for the new laws, police say they're quickly paying dividends, having taken more than 250 vehicles off the road in just over a week.

"We've been averaging about one every 25 minutes," said OPP Sgt. Cam Woolley. "It seems to me that the people we're taking off the road are the very people that shouldn't ever be on there."

Still, the changes came too late to alter the fates of Dougherty and Dalsass, something their friends and family won't soon forget.

"You just can't get over it," Mark Doughtery said. "I don't know what else to say."

very sad... at least they weren't driving hondas, it would have been an epidemic

And that law is in place for that very reason. Some people don't deserve to drive. It's a priviledge not a right.:smilie_d0

So Many Drivers With Licenses Shouldnt Even Be On The Road!!!

People Who Kill People In Cars Cause Or Retardedness Should Have To Take The Bus For The Rest Of Their Lives!

I read in the paper that that accident was caused when one of the idiots tried to pass the truck on the soft shoulder. Speeding around other cars like this is bad enough, but come on to pass on a soft shoulder?

If you drive responsible, its not bad for you. IF you obey the laws you wont get in trouble. This just makes it worse for people who drive like retards. This is exactly why we needed those new rules.

now lets see who the first douchebag is to start some here about how the world blames everything on streetracing.

No, all it does is further promote the agenda against "street racers". Unfortunately, how many more lives will have to be lost for the media/police to finally admit to the very ignorant public that it it's not young males driving modified cars who are the ones causing these accidents all the time? I've been on the gardiner, the 404, 400, 401, 410, 409...Basically every 100 limit highway in the last couple days and it's more often than not WOMEN or older males in their entry level "luxury" cars who are doing a good clip over the rate of traffic..

But of course, if you own a modified car, you're going to get ****ed beyond belief if you actually pull over for a cop next time, whether you were doing anything wrong or not.

cause and effect. Some people wouldnt need to make lane changes like they do if the foreigners would keep up with the speed of traffic and the truck drivers wouldnt sit in the middle lane driving 20-30 km/h below the limit once they hit an incline on the highway. People need to get to their jobs just like the truckers need to get to their destination!

It all comes down for having respect for other people on the road (e.g. dont drive 100 in the leftmost lanes if you see cars passing you doing 120) and Toronto in general people do not respect one another....more often than not!

amen

City news had CAM on today again and got all these old people calling in and praising him..lol..anywaz CAM really pissed me off today. He kept repeating 2 things.

1) 80% of the cars removed from the road so far are young males in their 20s.

So then, it seems young guys drive fast..sooo...let's fcuk 'em over for being young and stupid in a way that will hurt them for years and years to come. Hey that way the cops, insurance companies and the province can make more money.

2) These cars are no different from guns or knives.

Oh yeh if I ever have to kill someone or defend myself, I'll choose my car as the weapon of choice..haha..what a joke.

And less annoying is his mention of the laws of physics...they do that back in the day at the academy?

It is rare that eyewitness estimates of speeds are accurate so we'll see if they were going 160 when the report comes out.

Don't get me wrong though, if they were the ones responsible and were travelling at say greater than 100km/h then they should get what's coming to them. This one will be interesting though. They seems like they come from a rich family.

Sorry for those who died.

Im gonna go against the grain here and tell everyone they are retarded and supporting a government looking more like a fascist regime. I understand the whole concept of punishment but you guys really don't understand how broad this new law is:

-"anyone driving in a risky manner, driving an unsafe vehicle, driving double the speed limit on wet or icy roads."
-"It can be unsafe lane changes, people slaloming through traffic at high speed – about a dozen different offences can result in these charges."

unsafe lane changes ? wake up fu ckers. b

and i don't ****ing get how it passed without me which is an average citizen here 10 years now knowing about it or having a say in it, as a matter of fact when was the last time you had a say in any laws passing. Think this whole thing through guys, im sorry to say but this government is out of control and every single person i know with any sort of head and education agrees with me to an extent.

Think past this whole scare campaign and realize the reprecautions that this new law holds for your safety and ability to PROTECT yourself from laws that are unpopular .

by the way i forgot to mention, if somebody calls in to say that they saw you drive in a way which falls under the curtain of this law if an officer believes that there is reasonable grounds to that allegation he can suspend your license right there and everything else this law permits.

Canada's not a democracy anymore, that's a given. Socialist leaning more and more towards all-out communism.

yup. so instead of taking care of murderers and drunk drivers, all the OPP will be busy fielding stupid complaints from some idiot who was prob driving 20 kph below the limit and wondering why people were tailgating him/her. :retard:

as if the police arent already too busy trying to impress young girls with their badges and pick them up. maybe it they did their job properly and patrolled highways regularly there wouldnt be a need to have wasteful laws like the so called "anti-street racing" law. :smilie_da

I love the fact that they were denied bail.....yet someone who gets arrested on gun charges in TO is released on bail, and goes and kills someone.....with another gun.

Yeah, dangerous driving is a problem....but the media and government need to stop turning the focus away from other issues that are just as bad or if not worse than dangerous driving.

Where are the tougher gun laws? They can violate your rights by seizing your car and impounding it before you're even convicted, but because they didn't give you a bail hearing in a timely fashion, they can release you on gun charges and give you $2000 for undue process.....

My other question, is what happens if an officer makes a mistake, impounds your sole means of transportation, suspends your license (that I need for my job), and then you are found innocent. Who picks up the tab on the towing, impound and lost wages?

You do.

They get their money, either way.

I can understand parts of the new law. Absolutely, 50 over, go ahead, take my car.

Spinning my Azenis in the rain by accident? That isn't street racing. It never was, it never will be. The government as a whole can go fvck itself. I'm not voting in the Ontario election, and once some of the debt I have is payed off I'm permenantly leaving Canada. I've had enough of our mamby-pamby weaksauce government making poor decisions and the general public ends up biting the bullet. Its not democratic. This country has gone to hell and its continuing to do so.

bring back Mike Harris

at least he did what he said he was going to do.

^^^ Amen brother. At least he had the balls to follow through on some tough decisions. Dalton and his gang just pass stuff over on groups that he knows won't organize to oppose.

Imaging if they cracked down on truckers or cabbies...you better believe there would be 1000 vehicles storming Queens Park and crippling traffic.

So IVPERFORMANCE you gonna man-up and go protest with me? I'm down for whatever if anybody wants to do more than talk, this is my hobby and my livelihood in the performance industry.

yeah Im trying to get something together in that ****ing facebook group, but some kid is hoping that someone will challenge this in court, the group is called "Car Enthusiasts against bill 203" almost 450 memebers, join in i think we can get something together there.

2 Idiots casue 2 deaths. Criminal negligence causing manslaughter. Didn't really need a re-write of the HTA to tell me that. What the hell did they do about it before sept 30? Tell them they were naughty and send them on their way? What about going 50 over? hasn't that always been a gigantic fine and license suspension? Damn election years. All McGuinty is really trying to do is slight of hand magic, making you look at something while you forget about everything he muffed up during his previous tenure as premier. At least that's my opinion on things and Im' sticking to them.

well looks like dickhead mcguinty is back in. next on his slate......new car rebates for people who drive 20 below the 100 km/h limit.

I'll go get my bicycle:veryhappy

I'd be right there with you, but I have no time. This ignorance pisses me off more then anything.

that's why u dont street race and put innocent lives at risk. :smilie_d0

still driving your gay riced out jdm pieces of ?

and fyi...i cant be banned here, so stop bitching and wipe your pussies.

Here's what I read in the paper.

Witnesses say they were doing moch 13, bla bla bla, idiots. A car passes you doing 10 over and you think its 80over.

The kid passes the transport truck on the gravel, when he got back on the road after passing the truck, he lost controll and somehow the accident happened (it didnt say hoe it occured).

Older bro was behind transport truck the whole time.

They were (before lil bro pulled his stunt) driving single file in the curb lane.

Cops and witnesses say transport truck was driving the speed limit.


Ok, here are my issues with this.
1. I dont see why the hell the older bro lost his ride, was charged, etc... as he did'nt do anything, stopped long before the accident scene cuz the truck he was behind stopped before the accident scene.
2. If they were single file behind the truck and the truck WAS NOT speeding, how could they be speeding? (other than what they did 10 Kms up the road)
3. I've drivin on that road many times and I've NEVER seen ANYONE do the limit there (from Hwy 7 all the way into Bolton). 110/120 is normal there, I do it there just so no one plows into me from the back. Those stop lights change quick and ppl allways run them. That road is dangerous by design.

I say teach Jr. a lesson he well deserves. How can you not know driving on gravel over 30-50 Kms wont spin you out or leave dust on yer wheels making it difficult to controll when re-emerging into t paved lane. It can be as slippery or more so than snow/ice. This of course is based on the fact that there was gravel and not just crappy pavement on the shoulder - I dunno, Im guessing gravel, otherwise Jr. really can't drive. Just plain dumb and dangerous. Maybe he thought he was havin fun, maybe he had road rage. Guess who his target would be if it were road rage? Prolly the 2 dead.

And I say leave the older bro out of it.

^^^ completely true, these cops and stupid ass "witnesses" which are probably some old grannyies with bottle cap glasses telling the cops the "real" story, those are the ppl that have to get the fvck off the roads this second. iv been closer to crashing wait no totaling my car by dumm ass old drivers or ppl that just cant drive and u wonder how the hell did they get their licence???? then by some one speeding past me. all these laws do is put more money in the goverments pockets so that the economy can keep rolling in their favour. these laws are making the driving situation here worse then the driving situation in my home country and thats a 3rd world country, im not saying stuff there is perfect but canadian laws and goverment the way they are going is getting closer and closer to that low end level.