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FCPorto_Q10 01-28-2007 03:59 PM

who here will get windows vista when it comes out????
 
discuss... who here will be getting vista on launch day which is jan 30.. ? or will be getting it later on.. im going to try getting one on the day.. im buying the home premium version.. i think all the higher rated versions are a waste ex vista: ultimate, buisness.. and the basic home is too basic.. i say the home premium is the best one..

Frozen_Desire 01-28-2007 05:37 PM

I will be getting windos vista as well...just wanna try it. One of my friend has it on his machine and says it pretty unstable...unless u have a hii-end machine.1gb+memmory

FCPorto_Q10 01-28-2007 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Frozen_Desire
I will be getting windos vista as well...just wanna try it. One of my friend has it on his machine and says it pretty unstable...unless u have a hii-end machine.1gb+memmory


oo i see.. that means im set for the vista lol:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

NOTORIOUS VR 01-28-2007 07:15 PM

I was running the MSDN hacked version off of the torrents for a few months w/o a problem on my machine. As long as all of your hardware is supported driver wise you'll be ok.

BUT... you do need 2GB or ram minimum IMO... It runs a lot slower then XP /w only 1GB.


Originally Posted by Frozen_Desire
I will be getting windos vista as well...just wanna try it. One of my friend has it on his machine and says it pretty unstable...unless u have a hii-end machine.1gb+memmory


JDMWHACK 01-29-2007 09:59 AM

i wont its garbage

end of story

NOTORIOUS VR 01-29-2007 02:45 PM

... and then you woke up


Originally Posted by JDMWHACK
i wont its garbage

end of story


shitbox 01-29-2007 03:02 PM

i'm still using my intel pentium III 866 mHz destop, guess i will have to stick with the window XP until i get a new computer.

NOTORIOUS VR 01-29-2007 07:21 PM

For sure... heck XP on your computer would be slow for me... but then you get used to a certain speed and it's hard to go back.

I even dislike slight wait times, which is why I upgraded to 2GB of ram on my laptop (got a good deal), and the next upgrade for it is a 7200rpm HDD.

I'm not sure how Vista will run on my laptop.. but it should be ok after the faster HDD. but my laptop is faster then u'r desktop and I can just barely handle that.

Spoiled aren't we now a days lol... nothing wrong at all w/ XP anyways.. it's IMO a great OS.


Originally Posted by shitbox
i'm still using my intel pentium III 866 mHz destop, guess i will have to stick with the window XP until i get a new computer.


whiteteg_b18 01-30-2007 03:07 PM

man i will wait like a year 2 get it there is 2 many gliches in it right now

Grafix 01-30-2007 03:53 PM

i heard it has built in anti-piracy where it seeks out pirated software and deletes on detection... ths was on a business new program this morning about its release...

imo an operating system shouldn't demand much resource.. it should be a background program not the main attraction...

3nidapooh 01-30-2007 05:13 PM

i've been running vista on my 2nd computer for about a month now and its really great, you can tweak it and run hacks on it with no problem, the only thing is that its slow when running system processes like defragmenting and disk clean-up

FCPorto_Q10 01-30-2007 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Grafix
i heard it has built in anti-piracy where it seeks out pirated software and deletes on detection... ths was on a business new program this morning about its release...

imo an operating system shouldn't demand much resource.. it should be a background program not the main attraction...

yeah i heard the same about the software stuff.. im waiting for this to get clreaed up before i buy it.. because i need my photoshop lol and other programs..

if anyone knows please share

3nidapooh 01-30-2007 07:53 PM

there are hacks and tweaks to add to vista to stop it from deleting pirated software cause its a default setting set by microsoft and it can be changed only with a hack, or if microsoft comes out with something for it. but there are tons of programs to use with vista and you get alot of programs with it especially the spyware detection programs are great so that you dont have to download your own.

Grafix 01-30-2007 08:48 PM

yes but for those who dn't buy spftware.. your screwed.. hacks yes, but then what for updates?

i wouldn't buy thing right away.. let it come up with updates first...

3nidapooh 01-30-2007 10:51 PM

i got a copy ripped from china and it updates fine and all the anti-spyware programs came fre with it. besides u can get a crack key online for most of those programs

kazanak 01-31-2007 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by JDMWHACK
i wont its garbage

end of story

:smilie_da

I'll be waiting for Apple to release Leopard (Mac OS 10.5) later this year. Vista, for anyone who's used MacOS, has nothing new to offer.

crazyae 01-31-2007 09:35 PM

I think i am going to wait it out before i upgrade to vista. I haven;t upgraded my computer in two years so it will need some goodies soon. Whats all the hype about vista anyways? What new features does it have to offer compared to XP?

Ontittech 02-02-2007 08:23 AM

I have been using Vista RC2 Beta as part of the MS Test group for almost 4 months. I am torn on what i think of the OS. The Areo Glass looks terrific, a lot like a mac, but then again what's new?
I find even on my testbed server, which is a Quad Intel Xeon 2.4Ghz, with 2GB of RAM and a 200GB Raid array, it runs a lot slower than XP with the same Setup. and before anyone starts, yes I know Vista Cannot take full advantage of all 4 Processors, but even when it is running Dual 2.4Ghz Processors, it should be decently fast.

I think I may upgrade my home PC once the morning after bugs get worked out (the whole flood of complaints after day 1 of the release). but I will not be touching Vista for our work PC's until At least Service Pack 1 is released, Even then I will prefer to stick with XP so I have a single platform for users to work with, instead of having to troubleshoot a million different OS's.

phillet 02-02-2007 11:27 PM

I heard with vista microsoft can go into your computer and see what files have be downloaded ilegally and delete them, and besides if your computer isint new like 2 years old and under are not recommended to get it as you guys were saying its a bit slow. so i wont be getting it why what for xp work fine and not as much bull but hey we all got are point of view

2TONE_93GT 02-03-2007 11:31 AM

For now i will stick with XP. Not that vista wont work for me, but just because i dont wanna mess with what isnt broke.

My desktop has been chugging along for sometime and frankly and runs smooth. . . :veryhappy

FCPorto_Q10 02-03-2007 02:15 PM

hey guys i just got the vista ultimate 64 bit lol on thursday.. i installed everything yesterday its actualy fast.. takes up 28-30% of my ram and i got 2 gigs.. which is a bit over then 512mb's.. and i dont mind. whoever says that vista is slow on the new computers are lieing this thing is FAST!. way faster then my xp i had before. well to me thats what it seems like.. and i havent found no glitches or anything not 1 single problem. umm as for programs working for vista.. you just got to wait a bit for that. all my hardware works no problems.:thumbsup:

Ontittech 02-04-2007 06:28 PM

Phillin, that is only for Illegally installed Microsoft Products. It would be Illegal for Microsoft to check for any software other than there own, and even then there are some questions about the true legality of doing it with there own software.

phillet 02-04-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Ontittech
Phillin, that is only for Illegally installed Microsoft Products. It would be Illegal for Microsoft to check for any software other than there own, and even then there are some questions about the true legality of doing it with there own software.


hey man thanks for clearing that up i wasint 100% sure on that thanks

Nastyzed 02-05-2007 06:29 PM

ANY real computer enthusiast will run LINUX and wont even consider Windows. Don't take it from me , try it. I would recommend SUSE , but if you are a big PC game nut don't even bother useing linux as they rarely port anything mainstream to it. But it is 99% more solid then windows ever will be and if a bug does come out the fixes are out there very fast because its a large community of penguins who work all over the place ;)

drift_n_shift 02-05-2007 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Nastyzed
ANY real computer enthusiast will run LINUX and wont even consider Windows. Don't take it from me , try it. I would recommend SUSE , but if you are a big PC game nut don't even bother useing linux as they rarely port anything mainstream to it. But it is 99% more solid then windows ever will be and if a bug does come out the fixes are out there very fast because its a large community of penguins who work all over the place ;)

ya, i agree. but windows is too mainstream and compatible with like all the stuff people are into.

i just got vista business edition from my school. debating on whether to install it or not. as for security, my friend says its like zone alarm without the "remember" feature setting... dont know if hes bsing or not

NOTORIOUS VR 02-05-2007 09:28 PM

My god you talk a lot of bullshit..

So anyone who doesn't run a flavor of linux isn't a computer enthusiast?

Linux sucks buddy. Even people in the Linux community agree it's not a viable desktop replacement (read: a windows replacement).

Linus is something you run if you want to tinker and have your windows designed hardware to not work as it was intended.

I've been there and done that... I've tried making it (SUSE specifically) replace windows... it's not gonna happen, even though I agree, SUSE is the best linux distro I've used. I had that on my desktop for 4 months, and on my laptop for 2. The only positive thing I can say about it is that it's kinda cool at first.

After that, you get frustrated with the lack of hardware and software support.

There is a reason why Microsoft Windows is the market leader.


Originally Posted by Nastyzed
ANY real computer enthusiast will run LINUX


kongee 02-05-2007 09:35 PM

i wont get one..you should wait a bit before getting vista. unless when the service pack comes out.

drift_n_shift 02-05-2007 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
My god you talk a lot of bullshit..

So anyone who doesn't run a flavor of linux isn't a computer enthusiast?

Linux sucks buddy. Even people in the Linux community agree it's not a viable desktop replacement (read: a windows replacement).

Linus is something you run if you want to tinker and have your windows designed hardware to not work as it was intended.

I've been there and done that... I've tried making it (SUSE specifically) replace windows... it's not gonna happen, even though I agree, SUSE is the best linux distro I've used. I had that on my desktop for 4 months, and on my laptop for 2. The only positive thing I can say about it is that it's kinda cool at first.

After that, you get frustrated with the lack of hardware and software support.

There is a reason why Microsoft Windows is the market leader.

linux sucks? really? i thought it was good because people dont hack it as much. not really for personal use, but maybe a business? im not sure, just wondering? :confused:

Ontittech 02-06-2007 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by Nastyzed
ANY real computer enthusiast will run LINUX and wont even consider Windows. Don't take it from me , try it. I would recommend SUSE , but if you are a big PC game nut don't even bother useing linux as they rarely port anything mainstream to it. But it is 99% more solid then windows ever will be and if a bug does come out the fixes are out there very fast because its a large community of penguins who work all over the place ;)

The only people who think Linux for Home use is the only way to go, are lonely Nerds who never get laid.

This is coming from an MCSE Certified as well as Linux+ Certified Network Admin, Me. Linux is a Great idea if you are looking to host a web page for your business with Apache, or as a DNS or RADIUS Server, but other than that, there is absolutely no reason why you would want to run Linux. At Work or at home, in any flavor.

The Whole craze of "Linux is the only way to go at home" died about 6 years ago.

NOTORIOUS VR 02-06-2007 07:13 AM

Exactly my point. Not only that.. if you really want something close to linux yet w/o the fuss and where everything works hardware wise, get a mac and run OSX.

Linux is a powerful OS I'll admit, but anything you can do under linux, you can do under windows. And for home use espeicially, Windows kills Linux.

And done come w/ the ohhh, you get less viruses, and spyware under linux... Listen I haven't had a virus and or spyware in over 4 years on my windows PC. It's all in the user. On top of that Dual Booting or running emulators like virtual PC to run windows programs when u need it is gay.



Originally Posted by Ontittech
The only people who think Linux for Home use is the only way to go, are lonely Nerds who never get laid.

This is coming from an MCSE Certified as well as Linux+ Certified Network Admin, Me. Linux is a Great idea if you are looking to host a web page for your business with Apache, or as a DNS or RADIUS Server, but other than that, there is absolutely no reason why you would want to run Linux. At Work or at home, in any flavor.

The Whole craze of "Linux is the only way to go at home" died about 6 years ago.


Nastyzed 02-06-2007 06:31 PM

I talk alote of ? Easy there germany. Anyways back on track. Linux is fine for everyday use. I currently use it on my laptop. Although it does require more experiance to use freely there are many benefits of useing linux over Windows. Right now I am useing windows as most of the time I do. The main problem with linux is sometimes you have to write your own drivers ,etc. Which not everyone can do. Other then that it is much better and rock solid unlike windows which comes with spyware from the factory. Best of all for the most part its a free community. You can also run windows apps without running a dual boot system


Linux screenshot:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...12.6-beta1.png

There is nothing wrong with useing linux for home. As you can see it is virtually user friendly and not all that complicated if you get into it. Stop ing ignorance.

NOTORIOUS VR 02-06-2007 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Nastyzed
there are many benefits of useing linux over Windows.

Oh really? what would these benefits be then? I can't think of any really.


Other then that it is much better and rock solid unlike windows which comes with spyware from the factory.
Then it actually impresses me how you are even able to run Linux if you believe what you wrote above were supposed to be true.

Spyware from the factory eh... and u'r talking to be about ignorance?

If you can't keep your own windows system spyware, and virus free then you clearly have a lot to learn.


Best of all for the most part its a free community. You can also run windows apps without running a dual boot system
Yes, yes I know.. you CAN do it.. but WHY? It doesn't run as good as it would under windows... and everything you can do under linux, I can do under Windows, but better. I don't have to **** around w/ drivers, hardware, this, that and the other. Under windows it just works.

I've been there and done that with Linux... It's cool... wow... but it's really only for people that want to bother with it. It's in no way a desktop replacement OS.

goto the suse support forums, or linuxquestions.org... take a look @ some of the long time/hardcore members... or do a search of desktop replacement.. all of them will tell u that Linux never was meant to be one, and probably never will.



There is nothing wrong with useing linux for home. As you can see it is virtually user friendly and not all that complicated if you get into it. Stop ing ignorance.
I know there's nothing WRONG with it. What's wrong here is that you said "If you're a computer enthusiast you'd be using LINUX"

Which simply isn't true.

And stop typing using as useing... please and thank you.

Nastyzed 02-06-2007 09:30 PM

I understand your frustration to lack of knowledge about the software. It is indeed capable of replaceing windows as a daily computer for home or anything. Perhaps you could go on about the reasons it is not? Or since you seem to have trouble useing anything but windows maybe you should consider a MAC. IBM also backs linux:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEWxpOWOok

cool vid. I find it hilarious how you are preatching like windows is the . It's a pile of mule dung compared to a red hat or suse linux powered computer. I did this I did that bla bla bla thats all bullshit. You probibly coulden't figure out how to run the OS let alone play around with it. Which is why you ran back to windows. Now tell me your experiances and details on why linux is a turd?

Its true when will microsoft catch up? ( quick vid of some linux capabilities)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9m2CLx2-SM&mode=related&search=

NOTORIOUS VR 02-07-2007 07:16 PM

See you're so stupid and close minded... :thumbsdow

Never did I say LINUX was ... the only way you're able to argue with anyone with u'r simple ass mind is to put words in peoples mouths, and answer questions w/ questions.

I mean you can't even spell for christ sake, how or why someone who's trying to act so damn smart but presents himself as a complete idiot is beyond me.

You can keep telling you're self that LINUX is a replacement desktop OS. Yet I'll rather believe people who've been in the community a while longer then you have. I've had a reasonable discussion about this with them on the forums. I could care less what you keep trying to "prove" even though you haven't proven at all one point as to why there's an advantage of running a linux distro over windows. Not one.

I've also never said Windows was the you fool. It's as if you can't only not write properly, you can't read either.

Windows as more going for it as a mainstream desktop OS then linux ever will.

There just isn't enough support from the big vendors for linux, hardware or software wise. You can argue this all you want, but anyone serious about linux will agree with me, and not just act like a damn fool like you are.

It's actually people like you that give Linux a bad name.




Originally Posted by Nastyzed
I understand your frustration to lack of knowledge about the software. It is indeed capable of replaceing windows as a daily computer for home or anything. Perhaps you could go on about the reasons it is not? Or since you seem to have trouble useing anything but windows maybe you should consider a MAC. IBM also backs linux:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEWxpOWOok

cool vid. I find it hilarious how you are preatching like windows is the . It's a pile of mule dung compared to a red hat or suse linux powered computer. I did this I did that bla bla bla thats all bullshit. You probibly coulden't figure out how to run the OS let alone play around with it. Which is why you ran back to windows. Now tell me your experiances and details on why linux is a turd?

Its true when will microsoft catch up? ( quick vid of some linux capabilities)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9m2CLx2-SM&mode=related&search=


Ponyryd 02-07-2007 07:22 PM

Still debating whether it's worth it or not, the old system works fine for right now.

NOTORIOUS VR 02-07-2007 07:27 PM

Right now, other then having some more eye candy, there's no reason to switch to Vista, especially when u have an older system.

Once games start coming out w/ DX10 then it's time to upgrade u'r hardware and to Vista.


Originally Posted by Ponyryd
Still debating whether it's worth it or not, the old system works fine for right now.


Nastyzed 02-07-2007 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
See you're so stupid and close minded... :thumbsdow

Never did I say LINUX was ... the only way you're able to argue with anyone with u'r simple ass mind is to put words in peoples mouths, and answer questions w/ questions.

I mean you can't even spell for christ sake, how or why someone who's trying to act so damn smart but presents himself as a complete idiot is beyond me.

You can keep telling you're self that LINUX is a replacement desktop OS. Yet I'll rather believe people who've been in the community a while longer then you have. I've had a reasonable discussion about this with them on the forums. I could care less what you keep trying to "prove" even though you haven't proven at all one point as to why there's an advantage of running a linux distro over windows. Not one.

I've also never said Windows was the you fool. It's as if you can't only not write properly, you can't read either.

Windows as more going for it as a mainstream desktop OS then linux ever will.

There just isn't enough support from the big vendors for linux, hardware or software wise. You can argue this all you want, but anyone serious about linux will agree with me, and not just act like a damn fool like you are.

It's actually people like you that give Linux a bad name.

Do you think I care how I spell online? You have no argument which is why you resort to lame insults. Cut the tough guy routine while your at it , you can't back it up.

Back on topic:

There are many benifits of linux which I dont even need to list , nor do I have to bother listing things you are just trying to start a flame war.

NOTORIOUS VR 02-08-2007 06:44 AM

Holy ****... this is obviously isn't going anywhere. You can't even keep a simple thread going. I understand though, when you're fighting a loosing battle, then it's best to give up when you can.

Tough guy routine? lmao, GTFO you clown... The only one here trying to act tough here is you.

On top of that, nice try to save face in regards to spelling. But it's quite obvious you haven't even gotten the basics down yet. Just as a hint, you need to drop the E for ING. :smilie_da

So I guess there you have it folks. Nastyzed can't tell us why "computer enthusiasts" should be running Linux over Windows. But then again, I've been saying that from the beginning, that it's a load of horse .

It's good to see the Linux world still had idiots in it. :loser:

You've lost so badly I'm done with this thread, you can't even come back up from this one... lmfao.



Originally Posted by Nastyzed
Do you think I care how I spell online? You have no argument which is why you resort to lame insults. Cut the tough guy routine while your at it , you can't back it up.

Back on topic:

There are many benifits of linux which I dont even need to list , nor do I have to bother listing things you are just trying to start a flame war.


Nastyzed 02-08-2007 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
:

You've lost so badly I'm done with this thread, you can't even come back up from this one... lmfao.


I will remind of your words soon.

NOTORIOUS VR 02-08-2007 07:03 PM

Cool :smilie_da


Originally Posted by Nastyzed
I will remind of your words soon.



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