You wanna smack me? Anytime pal, I will knock you the out. :knock_tee

Look the point is. If you want a fast neon FINE. Buy a used one for around 10gs. Dump the other 20 into the motor. And you'll have a neon for 30 grand and im sure it will be a lot faster than an SRT-4. The SRT-4 is a marketing scam. If you want a tuner car. Buy a car and tune it. Don't buy one thats already tuned by sombody else for twice the price that it would cost you to do the same thing. So congrats. You just got boned by dodge :appl:

:laugh:

SO BEND OVER DOUCHEBAG!!!! :supergay:

good point...but i still love my srt..lol...i'll bend over now,,haha :lmao:

in the end the SRT4 is still a neon but its one hell of a fun neon to drive. Ive had mine for over 2 years now and havent lost to much on the street. Racing AWD cars is a bit of ***** but all the fun is coming from behind just when they think they got you. I didnt buy my SRT4 to impress anyone. Most people look at it the way that everyone in this thread has. I bought it because I like it.

i think they look a lot better then the new caliber srt-4

, i know i'm way late in joining this party, but i hope this dude bought extended warranty... i'll put money on it that he'll need it!

If you're serious... I agree. If not, I sill agree.

Now you forgot about all the video's of the srt4 losing...that car is just a piece of crap

srt-4 are niceeee

man im not impressed with srt 4's at all i raced were garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!my stock h22 in my eg civic spanked them time and time again..so stock vs stock h22 eg's rule turbo 2.4 neon's in the end a neon is a grocery getter nothing more no offence.....

Your EG Civic is NOT a grocery getter?
Your Civic is modified, the SRT-4 is a neon thats been factory modified:retard:

Whats you point?

I still don't get it. Whats the point in buying an SRT4 if you want to make it faster, you have to change most of the parts that make it faster than a base model neon in the first place. The only time it would ever make sense to buy one was if you're gonna leave it stock and not really care about tuning it. But if you were that type of person then you wouldn't be on a forum posting videos...

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Ok so you're retarded. Is that all you have to say?

i kno a guy around here ran a high 11 with his srt all he did was change his wastegate and and nice pair of slicks. stock turbo.

Srt-4 is an awesome platform. Some other highly modifed cars, done correctly such as a K22 or h22a will beat an stock or even slightly upgraded, but there are some i say some srt-4's out there that are unbelieveable as far as i know the fastest 4 cylinder car out right now is an srt-4 yes highly modifeid not street legal but fast. the numbers don't give it justice but the car is a monster, the guy that posted this to begin with is a nitwit. The Neon, was started off as an economical car, with power to be fun to drive it was never meant to be a street killer. Yes, with mods, and the beloved fast and the furious the car took off as you could have bought a brand new one for around 8g's nothing major great on gas fun to drive. I have a 95 highline. I love the car, and have always love the neon, is it great no. is it mine and do i love it yes


so as far as sitting around and bashing the Brand, fine to each his own but the numbers you can find on the "properly done" srt's are nothing to shake a stick at ;)


-CMAC

yea ull have to change it to make it faster but **** 450whp in a stock srt-4 wat u gotta change? a turbo:S and neons rnt as big of a piece of as u ricers think the only thing a honda has thats better is ur damn v0tech and a stronger built motor buit i know personally a guy who street races a neon and has put 500,000 on the original motor with a turbo and has only changed a head gasket and done oil changes so rly a neon isnt a hage pos and i doubt any of u ricers have even owned a neon

Why would I drive a Neon when I can drive a dub? Not that SRT4's are bad, but they are still a Neon, and where are the old Neon's now? In the junkyard.

450 whp in an srt4 is more than a turbo. its a turbo, exhaust, computer, piping, all their other stupid little bullshit. its not cheap in the end. my buddy had one making over 400 to the wheels and it wasnt cheap to do. and in the end his headgaket puked on a a tune running just a hair under 11.0 afr.

also a stock turbo will not get the car into the 11's. if by some miracle it does its simply because of a very strong headwind and even then its gonna mph like a brick. those stock turbos are garbage, at 19 psi with a stage 2 and other goodies theyre making about 260 whp. and even then its not that fast considering how much abuse your putting through the motor. that turbo just doesnt flow enough to make the power you want and still be safe. col cars and all but they have their 5 years of fame and strt to break down. my buddy sold his at the right time. it still had low km on it but it was starting to get unreliable and was starting to wear out on it

WOW, I'm Surprised.

Hey..I have to chuckle at how pissed you get, and that's really immature in my book. You're a great talker when all you have to do is tap away at the keyboard.

I wonder why you behave as you do. Nasty momma in your life?

And by the by, the SRT4 along with it's lowly brother, the stock 2nd generation Neon is rated as a best buy, and AllData.com finds it with no problems.

And as well, I did watch the Videos that are posted, and they're good. So at least one person did look at them, along with thousands of others.


And my guess is that when you say "crap" it's knowing personally about the SRT4 is it? Or you are the type of guy who sticks up for what he drives, and thus badmouths someone else's vehicle without knowing a single thing about the other dude'd ride? That seems about right eh?! And that's OK, because whatever you like to sit your butt in, is a personal choice, and yours just doesn't happen to be an SRT4. Oh well!

Funny thing is that the SRT4's are known to be the BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK, the 2.4 was built to handle up to 600whp. Need technical proof of that? I can provide the link.

Funny thing is that the Dub is the most expensive vehicle to operate/maintain.
The Neon's, 1st generation were crap, and belong in the dump, but the 2nd Gen, which the SRT4 is a part of, are rated a "BUY". Reliable, easy to maintain, and the SRT 4 keeps it's value in the aftermarket. Fast, yes they are. Even a non-mod SRT is quick. Economical, though 91 Octane is a must, it achieves 38MPG(Imperial) if one keeps to the speed limits plus 10k over. Push it, and it drops to 32mpg. City pushing is 21-23mpg.

And to get it an '04(stock 230) up to the 260-275whp is easy, and not expensive. Either go with MoPar Stage II, or bolt-on a few goodies, but warranty wise, go with the MoPar. Chrysler likes that better, and less hassle if you end up in their shop for some warranty work.

Jap & German vehicles are great as well, thus let everyone enjoy what they like, and stop the whinning about how bad someone else's ride is. Just have fun with
your ride is the goal, isn't it?!

How much more immature can you get? Wow you do have a problem that needs to be attended to real quick! You should Google the nearest Nut-House, but do it quick, you need help in the worst way. I do feel sorry for you, and I hope you get better, or is it that you just haven't grown up yet? Ah, maybe that's it. Look back at how you behaved in about 10 years or more, and you'll understand why I have said what I have said here today.

Good Luck in life, and I hope you live to enjoy a long life. Life is great, so cut the bad mouth attitude, as it is sick.

Stupid post!

Im bias i'll admit it, I like the SRT series but seeing a SRT-4 outrun a twin turbo supra doesn't impress me like watching this:)

Gary Donovan's SOHC 8valve, TII K-car - Supra guys this one may hurt!


Something else that is more impressive IMO

I really enjoyed the 2 vids you put up! Good stuff.

Glad to see that you appreciate showing other great vehicles doing their stuff. That's the way it should be, as it's all good fun, and great to see other vehicle that are a blast!

Thanks for sharing!

uhm

my car club neoncanada had Sparta for may 4th

with horrible traction the srt's were netting mid 13's.

For christ's sake my SOHC neon R/T runs 14's on the motor.

You want to make fun of something. The new Si's are 28000. Theres something to laugh @. @ least the Srt guys got a turbo out of the deal.

Oh and I worked for Honda, but now I work for Hummer Caddi. For a DD id only go honda/toyota. For a cheap drag car, dodges r awesome.

Just look @ the old 2.2 turbo, heck I watched 2 guys run 11's all day w em on the 4th. And thats an 80's engine. Take a D series and do that, you cant. Something will inevitably explode. Why
Cause the SRT/Shelby stuff was designed to be abused, the civic was designed to get you to work.

I dont see Honda selling 400+ hp turbo upgrades over the counter @ the dealer. I think its awesome what dodge is doing. More car companies should do it. What id really love is if thed do it and keep it under warranty :)

I have more saved in my favorites! Its the era and models im into.

Chrysler built the bottom ends of the TIIs to handle alot of . Forged crank, meaty forged rods WITH full floating pistons(these should have been forged also IMO), cross-drilled blocks and heads. Even the weaker bottom ends take a hell of a beating. they can be bought cheap, modified to extremes, for example a 89 2.5L block with a 03 2.4L head(we call them hybrids). When was the last time you had traction issue's with a FWD car, sitting on radial slicks with VHT on the road?

Brent's Duster - 3.0L(Turbo/Intercooled)
http://thumbs.streetfire.net/aedb8b9...7d010f5d22.jpgT67 6g72 Plymouth Duster Sundance

For those who think Honda means, even worse makes, power you've watched the fast and the furious to much.

may 4th i had traction issues w my fwd lol

it happens, track just openned and the first 100 feet were a lil rough

you like turbododge eh????

look @ these bad bois ;)

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wats the car in the last picture

its a dodge rampage.
factory they are 2.2 carb cars.

Theres nothing wrong with making an economy car cheap and affordable, into a fast car...like the SRT-4 Neon, but don't expect it to have quality, just performance.

they are quick, but everyone I know with an SRT-4 Neon has had problem after problem, from drivetrain issues to poor quality parts falling off and breaking.

for the most part, it's not the car itself I hate....it's the owners.
They are usually pimple-faced teenage douchewaffles that like to piss everyone else off in traffic, and you can hear em coming from a mile away with their mufflerless exhaust and retarded sounding bovs.

At the end of the day, it's still a Neon.
:smilie_d0

Yanno, I loved reading this entire post, well most of it.

What's interesting to me is the multitude of opinions that to me, seem to be bias towards the Dodge Neon, (any Gen)

Now, I personally own a Neon, (1st gen).. no it's not my favorite car, but as a daily driver and all around fun car I love it, and surprisingly enough, with just a few mods, it can eat up and spit out most cars in it's class, (now were talking daily drivers here)

Sure there are going to be the Honda guys and Toyota guys and so on, who are going to pipe up and say, NOT MY CAR YOU CAN'T!...

But lets face it, Is there ANY make, or ANY car that can out perform all the rest? NOPE!!!

You'll have good and bad apples in ALL baskets.

I'm 45 years old and have been working on, and building cars since I was old enough to hold a wrench.

I've had everything from NOS fed BB 454's right down to 1.5L little piss pots...It doesn't matter.. a Car is a Car,
What YOU do to it, is what sets it apart from the rest.

Over the years I've run into all sorts of people with big mouths and little to back it up, and I've met and become friends with many TRUE AUTO enthusiasts.
Who just LOVE cars!

I myself have a fond affection to my 87 Fiero, some may say it's a piece of crap, others won't.
I don't really care, I ENJOY IT, I also happen to enjoy my Neon.

Trashing another person over their choice of ride, seems very childish. as does trashing an entire line of cars based on perhaps 1 or 2 bad experiences.

Just my 2 cents worth.

BTW, Loved the videos.... and for every video of this car beating that car, I'm sure I can find one of the exact opposite. =)

The grass is not always greener on the other side, but at least open your eyes and take a look, rather then look away.