351C in a Fox?
 

Anybody dump a Cleveland in a fox?

How come you never hear much about this motor? Windsors are like assholes, eveybody's got one....but not the Cleveland...seems like that motor has been all but forgotten.

Not as many go fast parts in the Cleveland, and nearly everything is interchangeable between the two Windsor motors. The cleveland is a good motor, but has its shortcomings. There are a lot of parts available for it, but most of the good stuff is expensive. I've never done the swap, and probably never will.
SS

I'm kind of a retro guy....I love seeing big blocks where they don't belong, or rare/odd motors in normal every day cars.

What I'd love to see is a 429 SC/J in a fox, that'd be sweet....or a 460 in an SN95.

A friend of mines Dad has a 550hp Cleveland, that he may put in
a fox but he has no time. He is a mechanic and had it in his 67
stang and it came in his old Montego. Very high compression
set up, bare streetable.

What's wrong with a 351W? You don't hear about the Clevelands because they're simply NOT AS GOOD a swap. There's a reason people use 351W's. I wouldn't build up a Cleveland just to be "different." Seems like a waste of money.

Uhmmm, why WOULDN'T you want to do something different?

Imagine Troy Trepanier never built Sniper just because a Viper engine is more than a few thousand dollars.

*bitch slaps midnighter:twak: *, smarten up dude.

like a chebby 502 in a stang? lol (mike knows)

A 351W in a fox just makes more sense because a 351W has more in common with a 302 its just plain easier and more economical. A 351C is a wider block then a 351W.

What if you had a 4 cyl stang and a Cleveland kicking around?
If you have the parts you just make it work.
Good call on the 502 Chris!

Yea, or you have an old Ford motor home with a 460 and use that since it's a Ford motor instead of a 502 :D Or maybe a 400M

I had a 400m in a 78 t bird, it was a boat anchor

It always make sense to use what you already have. I mean the parts for a Windsor are interchangble with a 302 ei waterpump, oil pan etc....

If you spend all your time looking at obscure and difficult swaps and trying to get it done, you'll probably never get rid of that 4 cyl auto. If you wanted a 5L it would probably be done by now.

I am simply trying to offer reasonable advice. Some people spend too much time trying to be different and less time doing things right.

i got a 351m/400 in my backyard..... it will likely stay there, got it for free and i never turn down something v8 that is free.

and there are still go fast pats for the 351c, if i had a hoped up 351c your damn straight i'd drop it into my 90 lx.

Well ,it doesn't really help that a 78 Tbird weighs in at around half a billion Lbs.

Yea but, what I'm saying is that if no-one did anything different, we'd all be riding horses or Chevy Sprints (almost the same thing)

I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many foxes with 351W's and 302s I've seen, but I've yet to see a 351C in a fox. When was the last time you saw a 460 in a 94-98 stang? Wouldn't that be cool?

Just cause the 5.0L is already in a mustang doesn't mean it has to stay there....like it's mandatory that you build that motor and only that motor otherwise the mustang gods will strike you down.

I like that article in Modified Mustangs(I think) where buddy dropped a 4.6 out of a Cobra in his 83 Hatch. Lots of work but it's one of a kind. Isn't that what hot rodding is about?

no its not... lol

http://www.sinnis.ca/Mustang.htm

its a 4.6 cobra in an 85...

K well it's not something you see every day aight?:hitwithro :D

While there is more aftermarket pieces that fit the fox body, a 351w block with CHI (cleveland) heads won three of the top four spots in the PHR Engine Master competition. If you can get the parts to make it fit, it would be not only different but very powerful.

Wonder how much work that'd be?

Be different, go big or go home :p

Got more pics that looks sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^ yea dude, that's what I was thinking.

Heres some teasers for now:

Right after winter storage:

http://a457.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...bef981d078.jpg

New smaller hood:

http://a445.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...6cb963e05c.jpg

Last summer:

http://a69.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/...5c94845b9c.jpg
http://a281.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...6844ff87b0.jpg

That's f-in sick man.

The only thing I can think of that'd be sweeter than that is if it had a big chrome 8-71 poking through the hood....old school styles.

What the hell kind of numbers does that thing do?

Well, it has an eagle crank and I beam rods, keith black pistons, 10.4:1 compression, ported heads, rather large ford racing cam, roller rockers, LT swap headers, single plane intake, BG Demon carb 850 cfm, and a bunch of other goodies :) I'd say she puts down around upper 400s at the wheels N/A with more than 500+ ft.-lbs. , it has traction issues lol.

yea I'll bet it's got traction issues.

Pretty sweet.