Which one do you guys think?
 

Im stuck between these two cars im looking at and im wondering if you guys could help me sorta lean towards one with some experiences and/or suggestions.
I've only owned bmw's and now looking to switch over to either
a 98 vw vr6 with about 100k
or
a 1999-2000 honda sir also with about 100k

I know they have their pros and cons, but which one would you choose and why? Thanks alot ppl

what's the price for each one?

I'd go vw, personally. Although the SiR is a very ncie car.

The VR6 has potential up to 500hp. I'll let you know in the spring what a VR6 can do at 30 psi.

where's the none of the above option ? but between the two, vr6, check the timing belt on that thing... dont want to take out that engine anytime soon i hope.

must b nice to only b 19 and drive nothing but bmw's...both great cars but i will go with the sir...i know alot more ppl that went from v-dubs to honda then honda's to v-dubs...also depends what projects u may want to do...

^^mind you they were 20+ year old bmw's not a big thing to brag about, just interest in them and time for a change.

Its going to be an everyday driver all season, it won't be a huge project car but it will have a couple subtle mods.

One car has sharper handling but an engine that you really need to wind out to go anywhere... the other car may not handle as well but has an engine that not only sounds amazing, but has a much better power band and potential to make more power (more cylinders, larger displacement). Whats more important to you... acceleration or handling?

BTW, the VR6 has a timing chain, not a timing belt.

:laugh:

and i would go with sir i had a mk2 with an 98vr6 swap and nothing but problems... :smilie_da

yea i agree vw have many problems man stick wit the sir

SIR is definately the way to go...

sir all the way

If you would have known how to properly do the swap you wouldn't have had any problems :thumbsup

next time i'll ask you to do that for me smart ass :thumbsup

Sir like all the rest are saying. The Vr6 is overrated and being a 6 cylinder it will use more gas than the 4 banger Civic..gas prices suck and that would be enough right there to make my decision besides the maintenence costs on a VW compared to a Honda...honda's are dirt cheap and easy to fix....VW...goodluck lol Nothing wrong with VW but if you dont know them than you should stay away, Hondas are easy to figure out and you would more than likely not have any issues considering 100k is breakin time for the Honda motor...not so much for the VW! lol...Good Luck!

Sure thing... I'll do it for some money :thumbsup

How is the VR6 overrated? It's a very well built motor from the factory, and can take quite a bit of boost even totally stock. More then any Honda motor anyways. Besides that is has a lot more displacement which = more power.

And of course it'll use more gas, it's a 6CYL instead of a 1.6L 4 CYL if you didn't notice :sly:

If gas prices bother you so much go buy a Hybrid or something :eyes: Because if you don't think a tuned Honda motor redlining all the time doesn't drink gas then you need to get your head checked.

As for maintenance, VW's are not that much more $$$ really especially if you know where to look. And by the sounds of it, you don't.

If you have basic knowledge about cars, they're all the same... A motor is a motor, a tranny is a tranny... If your not willing to learn then it's best you buy a car that's fast from the factory and bring it to the stealership to service it for you.

100k break-in time for a Honda motor? Although I know what you're trying to say here, but you obviously don't know anything about motors in general.

Besides that, VR6's are very much just like your 100k Honda motors, they're usualy better with high K. There's enough VR's out there with very high KM's on them that run like new.

Awww sounds like I hurt someones fragile feelings, you dont like my opinion fine but taking stabs at my knowledge of cars is useless...Everything I said makes perfect sense..so thanks for coming out tool. Have fun with ur Vdub

Edit::I just reread what all you said, sounds like a last ditch effort to try and have VW compete with a Honda, lol not going to happen. There is a reason why Hondas are doing so well both in the new car category and in the used...how is Volkswagen doing? lol...but im also in school for this so I have to know that, try as you might to talk up the VW its no where in comparison to the SIR, looks like crap, too big of a motor without enough power, repairs are a PITA cause were NOT ALL VW SPECIALISTS lol you do make me laugh tho with your pathetic arguments about the VW's grandness, VR6's are slow, heavy and usually ugly...nuff said im done with this useless arguement all the original topic starter has to do is look online at some consumer reports and he will end up with the Honda and will never look back at VW again. This is an obvious truth, thanks!

+1 :thumbsup

I say VR6 for sure

Why don't you test drive both cars n see which one you like better? I'd take the VR. Not everything is about HP. SiR has NO torque cuz its only a lil 1.6L. And the gas thing isn't true. An LS1 has the same if not better fuel economy than an S2K just cuz you don't have to beat on it to go anywhere, so it depends on your driving style. Im not even gonna get into the looks department. That was just a stupid statement cuz I've seen some pretty riced out hondas and some really clean ones. Same for VW so that also depends on the owner of the car. As for the repairs issue, I'd have to agree that honda is probably better for that but if you wanna play you gotta pay. In the end tho test drive both cars n see which one fits you better thats the only way you can really decide.

Im enjoying the debating going on its really making me think, to tell you the truth ever since ive owned my bimmer i promised myself i would never go honda and stay german but i find myself looking honda's up more often since im looking for something economical. By the looks of it if i think im leaning towards honda a little bit more these days, the SiR is looking pretty good then again so does this gs-R im looking at right now.. however it just so happens a 1.8t maybe in the picture aswell, I never thought switching markets would be so tough. I appreciate all the feedback im recieving from you guys, keep going!

Not really usless, because you talk about VW's as if they come from a different world or something :sly: Tell me why they're harder to work on then say a Honda? :eyes:

Because they're not.. :knock_tee

That's ok... Agreed they do have to get their together... But still what does that have to do with the person buying a car? And what does it have to do with the mechanics being different?? You're all over the place on this :smilie_au


You're in school for this ? lmao... well good for you, you trying to impress me? :sly:

Doesn't sound like you've learned much because you think VW's are hard to work on... If that's the case you'll be in for a real supprise when you have to start working on cars that'll make you wish you never went into the automotive industry.

Too big of a motor w/o enough power? Are you stupid? The VR came out in 1993... It's a 2.8L 6cyl that is the size of a 4cyl... It's strong, and can make a lot of power by adding boost. Pound for pound the VR will make much more HP and Torque then compaired to the SIR's 1.6L.

So how is the motor ? :stroke: Tell me with you school knowledge :laugh:

You know what, people who are enthusiasts don't buy cars based on consumer reports... they buy cars because they like the way they drive, they way they sound, the way they feel when u'r just cruising, etc...

If you buy a car based on consumer reports or even worse on what some person says because "he's in school for this " then they mind as well go buy a toyota echo/corolla, because according to consumer reports it's better then the SIR, and any mechanic will tell you that a Toyota is more reliable then a Honda...

So I guess we should all buy Toyota's now :retard:

the thing is, the guy said he's not gonna go with boost. I think you should consider the GSR as well, I owned a bimmer as well and it broke constantly, i have absolutely nothing against the VR cause it is a nice car, the looks department totally depends on the owner's taste, i personally happen to like the GSR more than any of the other ones you mentioned. plus you are 19 so you gotta think about maintenance, gas prices, and a bunch of other like driving style (someone mentioned that before). as for reliability, i'm not saying anything about VW, cause i never owned one, but hondas are very good from that perspective.

Thanks for everyones input. I found a bone stock 93 Corrado vr6 i picked it up on friday and im in love. Should i post pics? or does neone even care haha. Anyways thanks again.

I took the time to read this all and after all the posts and BullShit.
Your better off sticking with the BMW and If the price of gas is such a big deal how are you going to pay for ether of the 2 cars and insure the dam thing?

Stick to driving Mommys hand-me down BMW

Im 19 ive never driven mommy's hand-me down bmw, ive owned 4 nice cars in 2 years i don't goto school, so i have time to work for every bit of it. Insurance isn't a big deal if u know people, i just wanted to get a general idea of what some other people thought.. i saw a good deal and jumped on it whats wrong with that?

Post pics of the rado.

i read all this and in the end u already bought a car... wtf.. lol.. anyway heres my 2 cents... if i could afford a vr6 or an sir i would go 4 the vr6 first of all the motor sound soooooo amazing... the vw has a nicer interior... the honda is cheaper on parts... but german cars are more relable...

german cars are more reliable? i don't know about in general, but when comparing an sir with a vr6 i dont think the vr6 wins the riliability category.

dont do the vr............ the trannys are a piece of s**t .......... a buddy of mine has a 98 gti w/ a vr and hes loosin a lotta money on the tranny

hey andrew ..... its nick palumbo !!!!!!

So what happend, which did you end up buying?

I would rather trust Japanese car than Germany Car. If you want a reliable car then go for the siR. Do you know what you are looking for? VR6's Handling is not bad but VW has great reputation of endless problem. You need to prepare some cash flow for the up coming problem. But you also need to make sure the siR has not been raced before.

^^ I agree with him.

Before the IS I had a Benz and never again. I think I'm done with euro cars. Unless you've got a bunch of reserve money to invest/fix the VW I'd def go for the SiR.

How much did u put down for the corrado
and wheres the pics man