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Mikerock 10-08-2006 07:44 PM

i would go vortec over procharger. with a procharger kit you get all these diffrent plastic pipes that connect the kit together, and in anyone of those pieces you can have a boost leak.

i dunno, it ups to you but od your research first, in the shop we made more hp with vortec kits than the prochargers. kenne bell; we also did a lot of and they made great power too.

btw, how much are those wheels???

98CamaroZ28 10-08-2006 07:53 PM

thats why i recommended vortech, i dont know much about procharger but kenne bell is pretty good

FORCE_FED_Z 10-08-2006 08:11 PM

I think you know which way my vote would swing...I don't street race, but having the power is still fun- it makes the twisting back-roads that much more fun.

My advice is simple. Do what YOU want. Not what a bunch of other people want you to do. Also- I'm not going to recommend one thing over another just because I don't know anything about the other products in the same market.

Do some reading- Procharger makes really nice kits that make plenty of power. Also- since Procharger uses AIR/AIR cooling they are easier to install instead of AIR/WATER which require more plumbing.

The only place that AIR/WATER typically make more power is on a dyno or the strip strictly because you can load it with ice. But for your typical DD AIR/AIR is a much better way to go.

Chad- my vote, if money were no object, would be a blower. There is something about being able to play with the throttle and change that blower whine that makes driving a lot more fun. Its hard not to drive around with a cheesy smile on your face all the time!! Not too mention you get more power, but its not going to affect your gas mileage as much unless you are in the throttle- so if you drive like there's a cop behind you, you will actually get the same mileage if not better.

Mike Jones 10-08-2006 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Jpack
Chad, for the record, there is a roots blower for an LS1. Gonna cost ya though.

Here is a company doing them on GTO's
http://www.hiperformancestore.com/Ma...erchargers.htm

Or see this one on a Z
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...n=Custom&ID=30

That's why I said LS1 FBody, they make them for the GTO and Vette. I've only ever seen two on Fbodies(One of them being the one you posted) and both have been completely custom installs. I want one I can buy and install myself without having to worry about having the right machining tools.


Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
Chad- my vote, if money were no object, would be a blower.

I actually feel the same way. I love the sound of the blower but the costs add up faster with a blower. That and the keep up from day to day is much more involved.

69z-28 10-09-2006 12:30 AM

chad, local cop got his D1 procharger kit with a TON of extras like injectors, inline pump and idk what else even, but like the whole kit for around 5300 brand new. ill find out more baout it and also where he got it and if its available to everyone or he just had an inside hookup, however i dont think he did. its called Midwest Performance or something in South Elgin, Illinois. ill get more info if ud like.

Mike Jones 10-09-2006 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by 69z-28
chad, local cop got his D1 procharger kit with a TON of extras like injectors, inline pump and idk what else even, but like the whole kit for around 5300 brand new. ill find out more baout it and also where he got it and if its available to everyone or he just had an inside hookup, however i dont think he did. its called Midwest Performance or something in South Elgin, Illinois. ill get more info if ud like.

I appreciate it but right now I'm not looking to spend more than $4,000. After all that I'll still have to buy stuff like a clutch so it would get really expensive really fast.

69z-28 10-09-2006 09:44 AM

hehe understandable. my vote gets blower or heads and cam. your car is already sexy as hell. IMO those wheels onlye fit on T/As. camaros need 5 spokes or 10 spokes but i only like those multispoke designs on T/As and some 3rd gens look nice with them. black ZR1s FTW tho on your car.:D

97z2801ss 10-09-2006 09:50 AM

goo all out chadwick

Mikerock 10-09-2006 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
I think you know which way my vote would swing...I don't street race, but having the power is still fun- it makes the twisting back-roads that much more fun.

My advice is simple. Do what YOU want. Not what a bunch of other people want you to do. Also- I'm not going to recommend one thing over another just because I don't know anything about the other products in the same market.

Do some reading- Procharger makes really nice kits that make plenty of power. Also- since Procharger uses AIR/AIR cooling they are easier to install instead of AIR/WATER which require more plumbing.

The only place that AIR/WATER typically make more power is on a dyno or the strip strictly because you can load it with ice. But for your typical DD AIR/AIR is a much better way to go.

Chad- my vote, if money were no object, would be a blower. There is something about being able to play with the throttle and change that blower whine that makes driving a lot more fun. Its hard not to drive around with a cheesy smile on your face all the time!! Not too mention you get more power, but its not going to affect your gas mileage as much unless you are in the throttle- so if you drive like there's a cop behind you, you will actually get the same mileage if not better.


the air/water kit i installed was way easier than any procharger kit ive done. i agree with you though, a blower or a turbo kit.

FORCE_FED_Z 10-09-2006 06:53 PM

Depends on which kit you get- the ones with the dual coolers can be labor intensive, but I personally prefer air to air.

Chad- if you go blower you can also ditch the billet grill and just let a nice big intercooler take its place. Too bad you're so far away- I would fab it up for you since it would be hard to do yourself workin all the time- esp with your DD. The fact that I have two other vehicles to drive besides the Z lets me take my time with all my projects- its really helping right now!!

Mike Jones 10-09-2006 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
Depends on which kit you get- the ones with the dual coolers can be labor intensive, but I personally prefer air to air.

Chad- if you go blower you can also ditch the billet grill and just let a nice big intercooler take its place. Too bad you're so far away- I would fab it up for you since it would be hard to do yourself workin all the time- esp with your DD. The fact that I have two other vehicles to drive besides the Z lets me take my time with all my projects- its really helping right now!!

I appreciate the offer. But as soon as we buy my wife a new car the Camaro will be going in the garage for the winter (YEAH!), plus if I need anything like that done I just go to one of my brother's. He has a huge garage and all the tools you could imagine.

Right now everything's on hold, one of the guys from LME(Late Model Engineering) is finishing up a roots style blower for the LS1 FBody. I talked to him some today and he's going to be getting back to me on the final price. If everything looks good I'll ditch all the other ideas and go for this because this is what I've always wanted.

blue89vert 10-09-2006 07:10 PM

whats a roots style blower?

FORCE_FED_Z 10-09-2006 07:15 PM

Google it-

Centrifugal- think new style blower- look like a conch(sp) shell

Roots- old skool blower style that typically stick up thru the hood- also stock on Lightnings and 03+ Cobras

Mike Jones 10-09-2006 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by gray89vert
whats a roots style blower?

Like Joe said basicly a centrifugal supercharger looks more like a turbo by it's apperance.

Centrifugal:
http://www.capa.com.au/pics/library_capa_blower.jpg

Roots Style:
http://www.tuning.wanadoo.co.uk/imag...elix-screw.jpg

I like the roots because it's instant power, it's made more for under the curve power while a centrifugal is made more for all out power. So basicly I won't have the highest HP with this type but I'll have the best one for driving around. As soon as I tap the gas pedal it's on full boost.

blue89vert 10-09-2006 07:24 PM

oh yea i knew that lol. i like the root style better too. i just like the look of them when they are sticking out of the hood


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