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matryx 06-18-2007 08:02 AM

springs or coils
 
I got a 1996 Integra and want to lower my car. Should I be getting springs or coil overs. Which ones should I get and how much would both of them cost? What else do I need?

Midnight Racer 06-18-2007 02:56 PM

Me personally I prefer coilovers since they are adjustable, either way if you just get lowering springs and coilovers sleeves a good set of shocks is a good investment and also a camber kit so you don't have to replace tire almost every month.AS far as price is concerned check the classifieds I'm sure there are plenty of coilovers and springs there, and price will vary.If your looking for new check out http://www..com

matryx 06-18-2007 03:00 PM

I'm not sure about buying used springs though? How long does these usually last? Do people usually buy used springs and shocks???

I was wondering how much it would cost me in parts and labour?

crazyae 06-18-2007 06:34 PM

now you have to determine how serious you want to be with this car and what your plans are for this car. Combinations are usually as follows:

cheap adjustable coil over sleeve on a tokico or equivalent shock
The issue with the cheap coilover sleeves are they are very soft and carry poor characteristics for your suspension. The shock is abused because of the poor quality spring making the shock do all the work rather then one working with one another.
Price: cheapest

Springs - standard/variable/progressive on tokico or equivalent shock
There are many variables that come into play when trying to select the right spring/shock combo for you vehicle. Things to consider are ride height, quality of performance due to selecting proper spring style and rates. Some poeple will make a combo and be dispointed in the long run and upgrade to a more adjustable full coilover to unlock the real setting for there vehicle. You have some adjustablity with this combo as shock adjustability is avaliabe for certain shocks, but thats not usually the error. The error is usually the spring style or rate and you are limited to your performance at the point. If you do enough research and the car it a potent platform then you can hear poeples first hand experiences with combonatons.
Price: Moderate

full coilover assembly from PIC, TEIN or other supporting companies
a full coilover setup is the most ideal setup for any car. You are able to adjust the preload of the spring ,adjust ride hieght accordingly, and adjust the shock. You can still select spring rates but there is no form of style to choosee from. Usually with time spend on these setups you can dial your car into the perfect combination to maximize your performance.
Price: most expensive

I have just skimmed the surface and don;t want to get into big deal, but i thought i would shed some light for you. My recommendation is is a dealer for PIC performance and they carry awsome full coilover setups for $1200 take of give. These are the best in my experience with hondas and really make them fun after playing around with them. If you really want to get serious you can log your runs with a g-sensor and make adjustments.

xjethro 06-18-2007 08:46 PM

i'd recommend a set of springs coz everytime you change the height on your coil overs, you'll have to get an alignment which is around 100$

crazyae 06-18-2007 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by xjethro
i'd recommend a set of springs coz everytime you change the height on your coil overs, you'll have to get an alignment which is around 100$

this is true, what i had on a previous car is adjust the cars ride height via bottom control arm mount and kept the preload the way i got it. I then got the car aligned and would feel it out for a while and play with shock adjustments and preloads. Once it was comfortable the last alignment was done And i could comapre the alignment print outs.

matryx 06-20-2007 07:28 PM

I'm thinking of getting just the spring and use the stock shocks untill it wears out since I'm going to replace the shocks later anyways.

I'm been hearing about teins and eibach springs. What you guys think about these?

eBay.ca: EIBACH SPORTLINE LOWERING SPRINGS ACURA INTEGRA 94-01 (item 260130515692 end time 26-Jun-07 20:29:45 EDT)

or these

eBay.ca: TEIN S.TECH LOWERING SPRINGS 94-01 ACURA INTEGRA (item 260130559897 end time 26-Jun-07 23:36:23 EDT)

Also how much does it usually cost to get springs installed? Anyone know a good place to do this at?

Markham 09-16-2007 11:38 PM

Hi

I just purchased a set of Eibach Pro kit springs for a 94 Accord EX-R 2dr. I was wondering what was a good shock combination? Everywhere I've read it seems to be suggested KONI yellows.

969integra 09-17-2007 04:16 AM

Try and find lightly used springs, I found some H&R Race springs for 50 bucks on ebay, guy put them on, went around the block, found it too low, and took em off. They were like new. And I would recomend getting at least 1.8 inches of drop since integras have such a huge wheelgap. I changed the springs 5 times, allways going lower because I never got the look I wanted...

As for shocks, anything better than tokico HP should do the job...

If you need anymore info let us know.

jrsek 09-21-2007 02:41 PM

full coilovers are the best when compared to springs or shitty coilovers. you spend more money but your car won't hop like its on chopped springs. i'm riding on tein flex and i would never go back to springs or shitty coilovers.

969integra 09-23-2007 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by jrsek
full coilovers are the best when compared to springs or shitty coilovers. you spend more money but your car won't hop like its on chopped springs. i'm riding on tein flex and i would never go back to springs or shitty coilovers.

Some spring/shock combos are actually just as good as coilovers...H&R race springs with koni yellow shocks wil yeld amazing results...the only difference is that the ride height is not ajustable, but then againd, you cant run coilovers in the winter withought risking the adjustment rings to seize because of calcium...so score one up for springs/shock combos :smilie_da

matryx 09-23-2007 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by 969integra
Some spring/shock combos are actually just as good as coilovers...H&R race springs with koni yellow shocks wil yeld amazing results...the only difference is that the ride height is not ajustable, but then againd, you cant run coilovers in the winter withought risking the adjustment rings to seize because of calcium...so score one up for springs/shock combos :smilie_da

Wouldn't it be the same if your driving in the winter with full coilovers? Do most of your guys drive your integras through the winter?

I'm just worried about driving it in the winter with springs/shock. At least with some adjustable coilover, I can raise it up for the winter.

IntegraMark 09-24-2007 05:55 AM

just get full coil overs i got Tein SS on mine. no i don't drive it in the winter.

OMFGLMAO, they *'d out technotic. shades of TCC

matryx 09-24-2007 03:07 PM

those are out of my budget.

IntegraMark 09-24-2007 11:25 PM

Ground controls and koni yellows will cost about the same as a set of omni's, Function Forms or PIC's

969integra 09-25-2007 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by matryx
Wouldn't it be the same if your driving in the winter with full coilovers? Do most of your guys drive your integras through the winter?

I'm just worried about driving it in the winter with springs/shock. At least with some adjustable coilover, I can raise it up for the winter.

That's the thing, if you jack up your coilovers during the winter, they can end up seized in position, which means you wouldn't be able to lower your car againd, you would basicly be stuck with coilovers at stock ride height...

So this means you would have to keep the car low all the time, meaning you would pay big bucks for coilovers and use them just like a shock/fixed spring combo(neuspeed, H&R or Eibach).

By the way I'm originally from quebec (near ottawa) and we get a lot of snow over there, and I've gone through 2 winters with my car on race springs, now I live in barrie and we get a SHITLOAD of snow in winter, and I'm still on race springs and everything was fine last winter. Just make sure you have good winter tires and everything will be fine. Besides there isn't much snow in To during winter anyways.

Edit when I say race springs I mean H&R race

matryx 09-25-2007 10:10 AM

yeah thanks for the info. I think I'll go with a spring/shock combo now. Seems like coilovers are a problem for the winter. They're also out of my budget. It's not like I'm going to get full use of the coilovers since I'm not going to be a doing any auto cross or anything. I just want a drop so it look better.

969integra 09-26-2007 12:48 AM

sounds like the perfect choice for you :thumbsup:

ayakhnin 10-02-2007 09:27 PM

Adjusable Coilovers

969integra 10-03-2007 03:51 AM

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however coilovers are mostly good for a track setup and aren't that usefull on the street, asides from being able to say "I have a 15 gazillion dollar suspension setup in my civic"...For people who want good driveablility and performance on the streets, a good shock spring combo can easily do the job at a much lesser price. Wait for a good deal on springs and you can either buy shocks on ebay or lightly used for the fraction of the price of coilovers.

:thumbsup:

revsto9 10-08-2007 02:02 PM

Springs

stalk 10-24-2007 09:30 PM

I'll go with spring and shock combo... Just lowering spring is good enough but i suggest you should invest with a set of performance shock too. Save yourself some future installation fees if your oem shock goes(oem shock blow more quickly with lowering spring.)

letitroll 10-26-2007 01:13 PM

I would definitely get full coil overs. I would suggest either PIC performance, Buddyclub, or Omni power. They are all very similar in design and ajdustability.

92_civic_87 10-26-2007 08:03 PM

hey i have question too, im looking for a good smooth ride, i dont really care about performance, my civic has skunk2 full coilovers and my car is slammed and the ride is , any good company out there where i can have my car slammed and have a smooth ride. also to mention i have 16 inch rims with 205/40/16 tires i know that would make a diff but how much.

tknb18 10-26-2007 09:03 PM

i would say get the Springs

ryus 01-14-2008 10:18 PM

If you want real performance, go with coils. if you just want mild performance and drop, go with springs. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

ellickk 01-20-2008 05:51 PM

coilovers r way better, and definetly worth the money

92_civic_87 01-20-2008 06:28 PM

i got skunk2 full suspension kit and i dont like them at all they ride like , then again my car is slammed to the ground so i dont know lol

sibelian 01-27-2008 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by matryx (Post 211430)
I got a 1996 Integra and want to lower my car. Should I be getting springs or coil overs. Which ones should I get and how much would both of them cost? What else do I need?

i recommend tein ss coilovers cost about 1000$-1200$
just getting the springs will harm ur stock shocks

matryx 01-28-2008 12:39 AM

Well I been doing some research and finally decided to get some H&R Sport with Tokico Illuminas. I'm getting them for a decent price around $500 for them. Just going to wait for them to come in and get them installed.

969integra 01-28-2008 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by matryx (Post 373254)
Well I been doing some research and finally decided to get some H&R Sport with Tokico Illuminas. I'm getting them for a decent price around $500 for them. Just going to wait for them to come in and get them installed.

wise decision, but like I said you might not find it low enough...That was the case for me anyways. But it's ok since you got good shocks, you could still swap in race springs when you feel like it :thumbsup:

calmlikea3omb 02-05-2008 03:24 AM

Need advice on 99CivicEX Springs !!!!
 
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Hey dudes, this is my first time ever in a forum. I have a question that only some dudes with experience can answer(i dont have any buds into cars here). I have a 1999 Civic 2drEX right now i have cheap NRG Coilover sleeves. dunno the measurement of drop only that there is bout 1finger space between tire and fender( i have Motegi Traklite15inch with 195/50R15Nittos.) I also have front adjustable control arm for neutral camber. I hate these cheap sleeves ...the ride is so punishing. I would prefer the car stay at the height it is OR really go even lower but i gotta go to real springs since i drive 100 miles a day. MY QUESTION is given the car, the wheels and tires, what spring kits are out there that i can end up with a nice slammed look, with tires right at or a lil tucked, but no rubbing, and the camber kit corrects up to 4degrees...so as long as i dont end up eating tires im ok with that too. So if any of you have any friends that have this described drop and you know what kinda springs they have lemme know....i just dont know if i go and buy a H&R race kit that says 2" drop if that will even get me to as low as i am nowcause i do not want to do all the work and it be higher... thanks for your patience with a noobAttachment 14319n heres a crappy cell phone pic of my car


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