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Bryan Canter 10-31-2003 03:39 PM

Re: It works
 
"Brian Drake" <nospambdrake1@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message

> Thanks but a couple of questions:
>
> 1. What size screw driver did you use? I have tried 1/4 and (IIRC) 3/8
> bits but they seem too big to me.
>
> No idea, sorry but bigger than the eyeglass repair tool
>
> 2. Did you place it (first) directly in the middle of the clock?
> yes, directly below
>
> 3. When you twisted, did it move out a little?
> yeah, but the trick is getting it to pull 'out' towards you, not 'up' (or
> it will break / mar the unit). When you start twisting (gently), start
> pulling the screwdriver towards you, using the pressure of the twisting
> motion to in effect 'pull' the clock towards you..... let me know what
> happens
>
> bdrake1@carolina.rr.com


Thanks again, Brian. But mine is probably stuck. I tried exactly as
you said -- however, I might add that I did not use too much force. So
it could just be me. Since a Honda service person knows how it comes
out, he may go all out and pop it out in a second. But I could not do
it. When I try to pull the screw driver towards me, it seems to lift
the clock up and looks like it might damage the dash but the clock
stays put right where it was. I have so many little marks on the dash
now that I am kicking myself in the back for being so obsessed with
it. And yes, I did use a business card to protect the dash. The marks
are despite that.

I am going for an oil change tomorrow so I will ask for help. Thanks
and take care.

bc

Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-31-2003 05:14 PM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
In article <5Dxob.93127$pg7.75287@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
<sjacyna@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> The best way is to take out the center trim piece. there are a couple of
> phillips screws on the bottom. Then it should come out pretty easy


No, it's not. In fact, you CANNOT take the center trim piece out
WITHOUT taking the clock out first!

Just put a thin screwdriver underneat the bottom of the clock, and pry
gently. voila.

(Once the clock is out, there's a screw behind it. If you unscrew that
screw, and take out the two vertical screws at the bottom of the trim
piece, you can then yank that trim piece off. This is how you get
access to the radio.)


Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-31-2003 05:14 PM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
In article <5Dxob.93127$pg7.75287@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
<sjacyna@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> The best way is to take out the center trim piece. there are a couple of
> phillips screws on the bottom. Then it should come out pretty easy


No, it's not. In fact, you CANNOT take the center trim piece out
WITHOUT taking the clock out first!

Just put a thin screwdriver underneat the bottom of the clock, and pry
gently. voila.

(Once the clock is out, there's a screw behind it. If you unscrew that
screw, and take out the two vertical screws at the bottom of the trim
piece, you can then yank that trim piece off. This is how you get
access to the radio.)


Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-31-2003 05:14 PM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
In article <5Dxob.93127$pg7.75287@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
<sjacyna@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> The best way is to take out the center trim piece. there are a couple of
> phillips screws on the bottom. Then it should come out pretty easy


No, it's not. In fact, you CANNOT take the center trim piece out
WITHOUT taking the clock out first!

Just put a thin screwdriver underneat the bottom of the clock, and pry
gently. voila.

(Once the clock is out, there's a screw behind it. If you unscrew that
screw, and take out the two vertical screws at the bottom of the trim
piece, you can then yank that trim piece off. This is how you get
access to the radio.)


Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-31-2003 05:14 PM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
In article <5Dxob.93127$pg7.75287@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
<sjacyna@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> The best way is to take out the center trim piece. there are a couple of
> phillips screws on the bottom. Then it should come out pretty easy


No, it's not. In fact, you CANNOT take the center trim piece out
WITHOUT taking the clock out first!

Just put a thin screwdriver underneat the bottom of the clock, and pry
gently. voila.

(Once the clock is out, there's a screw behind it. If you unscrew that
screw, and take out the two vertical screws at the bottom of the trim
piece, you can then yank that trim piece off. This is how you get
access to the radio.)


Bryan Canter 11-02-2003 07:21 PM

Re: It works
 
IT WORKED FINALLY!

For the record, I was using the wrong type of screwdriver. I was using
those round changeable-bits type with a flat head (of course) 1/4"
bit, but that was causing more damage to the dash than it was doing
anything for the clock. Of course prying on the sides with the
eyeglasses screwdriver didn't help either.

Finally, I stopped at a Target and picked up a really flat 4" long
with a 1/4" head for a dollar. About 3 minutes with that puppy did the
job.

The clock bulb was about $2.50 at the local Honda dealer and changing
it was real easy. The clock lights up really beautifully -- can't
believe I used the car without the clock light for more than 3 years.

Thanks everyone.
bc.

Bryan Canter 11-02-2003 07:21 PM

Re: It works
 
IT WORKED FINALLY!

For the record, I was using the wrong type of screwdriver. I was using
those round changeable-bits type with a flat head (of course) 1/4"
bit, but that was causing more damage to the dash than it was doing
anything for the clock. Of course prying on the sides with the
eyeglasses screwdriver didn't help either.

Finally, I stopped at a Target and picked up a really flat 4" long
with a 1/4" head for a dollar. About 3 minutes with that puppy did the
job.

The clock bulb was about $2.50 at the local Honda dealer and changing
it was real easy. The clock lights up really beautifully -- can't
believe I used the car without the clock light for more than 3 years.

Thanks everyone.
bc.

Bryan Canter 11-02-2003 07:21 PM

Re: It works
 
IT WORKED FINALLY!

For the record, I was using the wrong type of screwdriver. I was using
those round changeable-bits type with a flat head (of course) 1/4"
bit, but that was causing more damage to the dash than it was doing
anything for the clock. Of course prying on the sides with the
eyeglasses screwdriver didn't help either.

Finally, I stopped at a Target and picked up a really flat 4" long
with a 1/4" head for a dollar. About 3 minutes with that puppy did the
job.

The clock bulb was about $2.50 at the local Honda dealer and changing
it was real easy. The clock lights up really beautifully -- can't
believe I used the car without the clock light for more than 3 years.

Thanks everyone.
bc.

Bryan Canter 11-02-2003 07:21 PM

Re: It works
 
IT WORKED FINALLY!

For the record, I was using the wrong type of screwdriver. I was using
those round changeable-bits type with a flat head (of course) 1/4"
bit, but that was causing more damage to the dash than it was doing
anything for the clock. Of course prying on the sides with the
eyeglasses screwdriver didn't help either.

Finally, I stopped at a Target and picked up a really flat 4" long
with a 1/4" head for a dollar. About 3 minutes with that puppy did the
job.

The clock bulb was about $2.50 at the local Honda dealer and changing
it was real easy. The clock lights up really beautifully -- can't
believe I used the car without the clock light for more than 3 years.

Thanks everyone.
bc.

rlago 11-04-2003 12:41 AM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:RuWnb.48085$UI.15260@fe12.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> In article <614be1fb.0310270819.673c15bd@posting.google.com >,
> bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter) wrote:
>
> > "Alain" <bald775@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<k_Gmb.10685$7t3.493306@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > > Pull the whole clock and change the little bulb (circular). cost:

$4.50.
> > >
> > > alain

> >
> > Alain,
> >
> > Are you sure about this?

>
>
> Absolutely 100% positive. Pry the clock out from the bottom with a
> small straight blade screwdriver. Disconnect the two connectors. Pull
> the tiny light out from the back. Replace with a new one ($2 at my
> dealer). Reverse the procedure. Done.
>
> Yes, the clock light is supposed to be on all the time when the ignition
> is on.
>




rlago 11-04-2003 12:41 AM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:RuWnb.48085$UI.15260@fe12.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> In article <614be1fb.0310270819.673c15bd@posting.google.com >,
> bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter) wrote:
>
> > "Alain" <bald775@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<k_Gmb.10685$7t3.493306@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > > Pull the whole clock and change the little bulb (circular). cost:

$4.50.
> > >
> > > alain

> >
> > Alain,
> >
> > Are you sure about this?

>
>
> Absolutely 100% positive. Pry the clock out from the bottom with a
> small straight blade screwdriver. Disconnect the two connectors. Pull
> the tiny light out from the back. Replace with a new one ($2 at my
> dealer). Reverse the procedure. Done.
>
> Yes, the clock light is supposed to be on all the time when the ignition
> is on.
>




rlago 11-04-2003 12:41 AM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:RuWnb.48085$UI.15260@fe12.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> In article <614be1fb.0310270819.673c15bd@posting.google.com >,
> bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter) wrote:
>
> > "Alain" <bald775@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<k_Gmb.10685$7t3.493306@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > > Pull the whole clock and change the little bulb (circular). cost:

$4.50.
> > >
> > > alain

> >
> > Alain,
> >
> > Are you sure about this?

>
>
> Absolutely 100% positive. Pry the clock out from the bottom with a
> small straight blade screwdriver. Disconnect the two connectors. Pull
> the tiny light out from the back. Replace with a new one ($2 at my
> dealer). Reverse the procedure. Done.
>
> Yes, the clock light is supposed to be on all the time when the ignition
> is on.
>




rlago 11-04-2003 12:41 AM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:RuWnb.48085$UI.15260@fe12.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> In article <614be1fb.0310270819.673c15bd@posting.google.com >,
> bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter) wrote:
>
> > "Alain" <bald775@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<k_Gmb.10685$7t3.493306@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > > Pull the whole clock and change the little bulb (circular). cost:

$4.50.
> > >
> > > alain

> >
> > Alain,
> >
> > Are you sure about this?

>
>
> Absolutely 100% positive. Pry the clock out from the bottom with a
> small straight blade screwdriver. Disconnect the two connectors. Pull
> the tiny light out from the back. Replace with a new one ($2 at my
> dealer). Reverse the procedure. Done.
>
> Yes, the clock light is supposed to be on all the time when the ignition
> is on.
>




Bryan Canter 11-04-2003 01:49 PM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
"rlago" <nakedskier@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<CJWdnQ9TKYWUoTqiRVn-ug@comcast.com>...
> The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
> cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
> but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
> And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
> center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
> Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
> problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?


Thanks for sharing that. A few searches in the newsgroups told me
pretty much the same story (as far as problems are concerned). My
friend who bought the same Accord I did (and on the same day) also had
the same problem. That basically said to me that it was a very common
problem. However, rather than being mad at Honda engineers, I feel
good that at least they neglected only a small light bulb and not some
crucial expensive part.

IOW, I forgive them ;-)

The service teams OTOH, could have been alot nicer about this. Since
it is a common and easy to fix problem, they should not be asking for
$25 to fix it.

bc

Bryan Canter 11-04-2003 01:49 PM

Re: '00 Accord SE Clock
 
"rlago" <nakedskier@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<CJWdnQ9TKYWUoTqiRVn-ug@comcast.com>...
> The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
> cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
> but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
> And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
> center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
> Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
> problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?


Thanks for sharing that. A few searches in the newsgroups told me
pretty much the same story (as far as problems are concerned). My
friend who bought the same Accord I did (and on the same day) also had
the same problem. That basically said to me that it was a very common
problem. However, rather than being mad at Honda engineers, I feel
good that at least they neglected only a small light bulb and not some
crucial expensive part.

IOW, I forgive them ;-)

The service teams OTOH, could have been alot nicer about this. Since
it is a common and easy to fix problem, they should not be asking for
$25 to fix it.

bc


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