05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
Hey all,
have an 05 ody with 75,000 auto trans obviously. It moves forward in neutral ever so slightly, If I am a complete stop on flat ground and put it in N it will start to creep forward. Hitting the gas does not make it move quicker ... If I go to reverse and back to N it does not go in reverse still. not sure whats going on here. Dave |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
"Zephyr" <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a8468878-f376-4cc3-afe0-7c659ea2455a@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... > Hey all, > > have an 05 ody with 75,000 auto trans obviously. > It moves forward in neutral ever so slightly, If I am a complete stop > on flat ground and put it in N it will start to creep forward. > Hitting the gas does not make it move quicker ... > If I go to reverse and back to N it does not go in reverse still. > > not sure whats going on here. > > Dave > Are ya' parkin' on a hill now, Davey-boy? |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
On May 14, 3:29 pm, Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all, > > have an 05 ody with 75,000 auto trans obviously. > It moves forward in neutral ever so slightly, If I am a complete stop > on flat ground and put it in N it will start to creep forward. > Hitting the gas does not make it move quicker ... > If I go to reverse and back to N it does not go in reverse still. > > not sure whats going on here. > > Dave carpenter's level might help you figure this one out for yourself. if you can get it to roll up a hill in N, you should call that guy who invented cold fusion. |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
Zephyr <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote in news:a8468878-f376-4cc3-afe0-
7c659ea2455a@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com: > Hey all, > > have an 05 ody with 75,000 auto trans obviously. > It moves forward in neutral ever so slightly, If I am a complete stop > on flat ground and put it in N it will start to creep forward. > Hitting the gas does not make it move quicker ... > If I go to reverse and back to N it does not go in reverse still. > > not sure whats going on here. > > > You'd be surprised how few "flat" roads are really and truly "flat". Find a road (or parking lot) that has a very slight, but definite slope. Point your car UP that slope. Try your "N" thing on that road. Now turn the vehicle around 180 degrees and try it again. If the car rolls in the same direction relative to the COMPASS in either direction, then the car is simply rolling down the slope. If it moves in the same direction relative to the FRONT OF THE VEHICLE, then you have a tranny problem. The "N" setting on the transmission disconnects the wheels from the transmission, so the car would be expected to roll if on a slope. The "P" setting is the same as "N", except that there is a pin inside the transmission that locks the works together so the car will not roll. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
On May 15, 8:49 am, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:a8468878-f376-4cc3-afe0- > 7c659ea24...@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com: > > > Hey all, > > > have an 05 ody with 75,000 auto trans obviously. > > It moves forward in neutral ever so slightly, If I am a complete stop > > on flat ground and put it in N it will start to creep forward. > > Hitting the gas does not make it move quicker ... > > If I go to reverse and back to N it does not go in reverse still. > > > not sure whats going on here. > > You'd be surprised how few "flat" roads are really and truly "flat". > > Find a road (or parking lot) that has a very slight, but definite slope. > Point your car UP that slope. Try your "N" thing on that road. Now turn the > vehicle around 180 degrees and try it again. If the car rolls in the same > direction relative to the COMPASS in either direction, then the car is > simply rolling down the slope. If it moves in the same direction relative > to the FRONT OF THE VEHICLE, then you have a tranny problem. > > The "N" setting on the transmission disconnects the wheels from the > transmission, so the car would be expected to roll if on a slope. > > The "P" setting is the same as "N", except that there is a pin inside the > transmission that locks the works together so the car will not roll. > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level... I've tried the check at many different points, and it always acts the same. how about this.. the first time I discovered it did this was when waiting to get into a carwash, the attendant hadn't yet started me thru ( one of those track jobbies that pull you along while in N) The attendant had to step out of the way, and I hit the brakes because the car was running him over as he hit the front with the power washer... He comes over and says, hey, put it in N... I tell him, I already am! going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing mechanism . thanks Dave |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
Zephyr <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:b8bddca6-b484-4529-b98e-cf640ffab062@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com: > > Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level... I've tried the > check at many different points, and it always acts the same. > how about this.. the first time I discovered it did this was when > waiting to get into a carwash, the attendant hadn't yet started me > thru ( one of those track jobbies that pull you along while in N) The > attendant had to step out of the way, and I hit the brakes because the > car was running him over as he hit the front with the power > washer... > He comes over and says, hey, put it in N... I tell him, I already > am! going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing > mechanism . > The first thing to check is the fluid level. If it's overfilled, this symptom will occur. Have you added fluid recently? Do you know the correct fluid level checking procedure? Hint: It's NOT the same as non-Honda cars! -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
On May 18, 7:07 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:b8bddca6-b484-4529-b98e-cf640ffab062@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com: > > > > > Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level... I've tried the > > check at many different points, and it always acts the same. > > how about this.. the first time I discovered it did this was when > > waiting to get into a carwash, the attendant hadn't yet started me > > thru ( one of those track jobbies that pull you along while in N) The > > attendant had to step out of the way, and I hit the brakes because the > > car was running him over as he hit the front with the power > > washer... > > He comes over and says, hey, put it in N... I tell him, I already > > am! going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing > > mechanism . > > The first thing to check is the fluid level. If it's overfilled, this > symptom will occur. > > Have you added fluid recently? > > Do you know the correct fluid level checking procedure? Hint: It's NOT the > same as non-Honda cars! > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Yeah, I've checked it with the car both warm and cold, not running, came out between the dots both times. I'm totally stumped... I think for now I will just drain and refill the trans and see what happens, any other suggestions? |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
Zephyr <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:6a92b289-339e-4a02-b656-7b960d4df989@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com: > On May 18, 7:07 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote: >> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote >> innews:b8bddca6-b484-4529-b98e-cf6 > 40ffab062@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com: >> >> >> >> > Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level... I've tried >> > the check at many different points, and it always acts the same. >> > how about this.. the first time I discovered it did this was when >> > waiting to get into a carwash, the attendant hadn't yet started me >> > thru ( one of those track jobbies that pull you along while in N) >> > The >> > attendant had to step out of the way, and I hit the brakes because >> > the car was running him over as he hit the front with the power >> > washer... >> > He comes over and says, hey, put it in N... I tell him, I already >> > am! going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing >> > mechanism . >> >> >> The first thing to check is the fluid level. If it's overfilled, this >> symptom will occur. >> >> Have you added fluid recently? >> >> Do you know the correct fluid level checking procedure? Hint: It's >> NOT the same as non-Honda cars! >> >> > > > Yeah, I've checked it with the car both warm and cold, not running, > came out between the dots both times. You checked the level HOT, less than one minute after shutting the engine off? > I'm totally stumped... > I think for now I will just drain and refill the trans and see what > happens, any other suggestions? > > The service manual is not encouraging. It says there are all sorts of possible problems that can cause this, some of them serious. Many of them are stuck shift solenoids, so a drain-and-fill just may help. Remember to drain-and-fill several times, driving the car in each range (including Neutal and Reverse) for a bit between each iteration. When you do the first drain, check the fluid carefully for black or shiny silver particles. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
On May 19, 7:57 am, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:6a92b289-339e-4a02-b656-7b960d4df989@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com: > > > > > On May 18, 7:07 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote: > >> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote > >> innews:b8bddca6-b484-4529-b98e-cf6 > > 40ffab...@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com: > > >> > Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level... I've tried > >> > the check at many different points, and it always acts the same. > >> > how about this.. the first time I discovered it did this was when > >> > waiting to get into a carwash, the attendant hadn't yet started me > >> > thru ( one of those track jobbies that pull you along while in N) > >> > The > >> > attendant had to step out of the way, and I hit the brakes because > >> > the car was running him over as he hit the front with the power > >> > washer... > >> > He comes over and says, hey, put it in N... I tell him, I already > >> > am! going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing > >> > mechanism . > > >> The first thing to check is the fluid level. If it's overfilled, this > >> symptom will occur. > > >> Have you added fluid recently? > > >> Do you know the correct fluid level checking procedure? Hint: It's > >> NOT the same as non-Honda cars! > > > Yeah, I've checked it with the car both warm and cold, not running, > > came out between the dots both times. > > You checked the level HOT, less than one minute after shutting the > engine off? > well, it might have been 65 seconds, but... :) > > I'm totally stumped... > > I think for now I will just drain and refill the trans and see what > > happens, any other suggestions? > > The service manual is not encouraging. It says there are all sorts of > possible problems that can cause this, some of them serious. Many of > them are stuck shift solenoids, so a drain-and-fill just may help. > Remember to drain-and-fill several times, driving the car in each range > (including Neutal and Reverse) for a bit between each iteration. > > When you do the first drain, check the fluid carefully for black or > shiny silver particles. I will be looking, honestly though, given how close this thing is to the ground I am not excited to crawl under it. I don't have jack stands, and only the one lift for changing to the spare donut. I have ramps, but I don't think the ground effects is going to let me up them, too steep of an incline. ( I can't get my accord up them either).. anyway, thats my issue. Thanks for your thoughts. Dave > > -- > Tegger > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: 05 odyssey moves forward in neutra
Zephyr <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:5523fca9-4c0d-41e8-8d55-34aa69b38895@z19g2000vbz.googlegroups.com: > On May 19, 7:57 am, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote: >> >> >> The service manual is not encouraging. It says there are all sorts of >> possible problems that can cause this, some of them serious. Many of >> them are stuck shift solenoids, so a drain-and-fill just may help. >> Remember to drain-and-fill several times, driving the car in each >> range (including Neutal and Reverse) for a bit between each >> iteration. >> >> When you do the first drain, check the fluid carefully for black or >> shiny silver particles. > > > > I will be looking, honestly though, given how close this thing is > to the ground I am not excited to crawl under it. I don't have jack > stands, and only the one lift for changing to the spare donut. I have > ramps, but I don't think the ground effects is going to let me up > them, too steep of an incline. Yep. You need a floor jack ($100 or so) and a pair of decent jack stands. > ( I can't get my accord up them > either).. anyway, thats my issue. Thanks for your thoughts. Or you could get a garage to do the drain-and-fill. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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