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c 01-06-2009 01:08 PM

09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
the windshield!

Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
will be prone to cracks, etc.

Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.

c

Sharp Dressed Man 01-06-2009 01:50 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
"c" <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5b885a59-9991-4bef-94f1-222e860f5c7f@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
> the windshield!
>
> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>
> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>
> c


Worth a trip to the dealer seeking warranty replacement. It shouldn't have
done that.

Be prepared to (politely) escalate your claim if dealer says no...



Steve L 01-06-2009 05:07 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 

"Sharp Dressed Man" <sdm@zz.net> wrote in message
news:gk0956$50j$1@news.motzarella.org...
> "c" <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5b885a59-9991-4bef-94f1-222e860f5c7f@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side
>> wiper
>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we
>> cracked
>> the windshield!
>>
>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>
>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>


May be fully covered under your auto insurance plan. Call your
insurance company and ask.



Tegger 01-06-2009 06:33 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
"Steve L" <srl1215@comcast.net> wrote in news:gk0kmb$1ki$1
@news.motzarella.org:

>
> "Sharp Dressed Man" <sdm@zz.net> wrote in message
> news:gk0956$50j$1@news.motzarella.org...
>> "c" <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5b885a59-9991-4bef-94f1-222e860f5c7f@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side
>>> wiper
>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we
>>> cracked
>>> the windshield!
>>>
>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>
>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>

>
> May be fully covered under your auto insurance plan. Call your
> insurance company and ask.
>
>
>




NO! Not on a car this new and very much under warranty!

If the dealer doesn't find a stone chip in the crack, the glass is a
warranty replacement.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Dillon Pyron 01-06-2009 07:01 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :

>"Steve L" <srl1215@comcast.net> wrote in news:gk0kmb$1ki$1
>@news.motzarella.org:
>
>>
>> "Sharp Dressed Man" <sdm@zz.net> wrote in message
>> news:gk0956$50j$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>> "c" <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5b885a59-9991-4bef-94f1-222e860f5c7f@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side
>>>> wiper
>>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we
>>>> cracked
>>>> the windshield!
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>>

>>
>> May be fully covered under your auto insurance plan. Call your
>> insurance company and ask.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
>NO! Not on a car this new and very much under warranty!
>
>If the dealer doesn't find a stone chip in the crack, the glass is a
>warranty replacement.


Go to the dealer first. In most cases, if you even inquire, the
insurance company will treat it as a claim, of sorts, which will
inevitably result in a premium increase.

If it was a stone chip or such, the dealer might (MIGHT) be able to
say no, but that could be bad PR for them. And this certainly sounds
like a fault.

The length of the windshield isn't the issue. It's probably the
material (the composition of the glass). It probably became very
brittle.
--
- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.



Michael Pardee 01-06-2009 07:17 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 

"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9B8BBCFF894F0tegger@208.90.168.18...
> "Steve L" <srl1215@comcast.net> wrote in news:gk0kmb$1ki$1
> @news.motzarella.org:
>
>>
>> "Sharp Dressed Man" <sdm@zz.net> wrote in message
>> news:gk0956$50j$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>> "c" <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5b885a59-9991-4bef-94f1-222e860f5c7f@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side
>>>> wiper
>>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we
>>>> cracked
>>>> the windshield!
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>>

>>
>> May be fully covered under your auto insurance plan. Call your
>> insurance company and ask.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
> NO! Not on a car this new and very much under warranty!
>
> If the dealer doesn't find a stone chip in the crack, the glass is a
> warranty replacement.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>


When our Toyota had a similar issue (cracked windshield within the warranty
period) the service writer ran a ball point pen along the crack to check for
a chip. When the pen snagged in a chip he explained it wasn't a defect, it
was damage and referred us to our insurance.

Mike



Dano58 01-07-2009 08:20 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
> the windshield!
>
> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>
> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>
> c


I Googled it and came up with this -

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0

Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
a leg to stand on.

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA

c 01-09-2009 12:28 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
> > against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
> > the windshield!

>
> > Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
> > will be prone to cracks, etc.

>
> > Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.

>
> > c

>
> I Googled it and came up with this -
>
> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0
>
> Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
> course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
> a leg to stand on.
>
> Dan D
> '07 Ody EX
> Central NJ USA


thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
it's not covered.

Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.

c

News 01-09-2009 01:20 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
c wrote:
> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
>>> the windshield!
>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>> c

>> I Googled it and came up with this -
>>
>> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0
>>
>> Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
>> course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
>> a leg to stand on.
>>
>> Dan D
>> '07 Ody EX
>> Central NJ USA

>
> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> it's not covered.



Theory of contributory negligence?

Al 01-09-2009 04:06 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
News wrote:
> c wrote:
>> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
>>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
>>>> the windshield!
>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>> c
>>> I Googled it and came up with this -
>>>
>>> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0
>>>
>>> Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
>>> course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
>>> a leg to stand on.
>>>
>>> Dan D
>>> '07 Ody EX
>>> Central NJ USA

>>
>> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
>> it's not covered.

>
>
> Theory of contributory negligence?


Not at all. No theories are involved, just facts. She broke the
windshield - he pays to replace it. It's zero percent the car's fault
and 100% the operator's. But they can claim it on their comprehensive
insurance because it was done accidentally.

News 01-09-2009 04:17 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Al wrote:
> News wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
>>>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
>>>>> the windshield!
>>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>>> c
>>>> I Googled it and came up with this -
>>>>
>>>> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0
>>>>
>>>> Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
>>>> course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
>>>> a leg to stand on.
>>>>
>>>> Dan D
>>>> '07 Ody EX
>>>> Central NJ USA
>>>
>>> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
>>> it's not covered.

>>
>>
>> Theory of contributory negligence?

>
> Not at all. No theories are involved, just facts. She broke the
> windshield - he pays to replace it. It's zero percent the car's fault
> and 100% the operator's. But they can claim it on their comprehensive
> insurance because it was done accidentally.



Mayhaps; given the track record to-date, deficient design looms large.


Tegger 01-09-2009 06:29 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
c <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in news:0c76ba76-7ca1-4490-acf7-a37cd7b469d4
@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com:


>
> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> it's not covered.





This is impossible to believe, frankly.

Was the rubber blade attached, or did the steel arm itself slap the glass?



>
> Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
> crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.
>




Problem is, you get what you pay for. Want rust around the pinchweld? Then
go cheap.

Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM. Aftermarket
hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet. $200 windshield jobs
are thus unobtainable at this point.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

a 01-11-2009 06:10 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
>
> When our Toyota had a similar issue (cracked windshield within the warranty
> period) the service writer ran a ball point pen along the crack to check for
> a chip. When the pen snagged in a chip he explained it wasn't a defect, it
> was damage and referred us to our insurance.
>
> Mike
>
>


That seems like a rather un-scientific and arbitrary way to test for a chip...

a

Michael Pardee 01-12-2009 07:30 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 

"a" <a@thisisnotmyrealemail.com> wrote in message
news:v%ual.4455$PH1.1030@edtnps82...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> When our Toyota had a similar issue (cracked windshield within the
>> warranty
>> period) the service writer ran a ball point pen along the crack to check
>> for
>> a chip. When the pen snagged in a chip he explained it wasn't a defect,
>> it
>> was damage and referred us to our insurance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>

>
> That seems like a rather un-scientific and arbitrary way to test for a
> chip...
>
> a
>


Dunno what the actual false positive / false negative rates would be, but it
is a decent field test. If the crack was not initiated by the chip, what are
the odds it would run through one on any windshield young enough to be
considered for warranty? An alternative explanation would be that the chip
was a product of the crack, but the presence of similar chips in the
windshield where it was not cracked militates against that. Then there is
the possibility that the two are coincidental; that there is a mechanism
(possibly a flaw in the original glass) that caused chips to form such that
they would be mistaken for small rock chips, and that those cracked. In any
case the onus would be on the owner to demonstrate that it was not the
obvious: pebbles impacting the windshield seeded a crack. The test was the
one Toyota wanted run.

It could be a whole lot more complicated, I guess:
http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm...m&File_Id=5136

Mike



dgk 01-12-2009 07:43 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:06:52 -0500, Al <al@spamless.com> wrote:

>News wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
>>>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
>>>>> the windshield!
>>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>>> c
>>>> I Googled it and came up with this -
>>>>
>>>> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0
>>>>
>>>> Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
>>>> course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
>>>> a leg to stand on.
>>>>
>>>> Dan D
>>>> '07 Ody EX
>>>> Central NJ USA
>>>
>>> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
>>> it's not covered.

>>
>>
>> Theory of contributory negligence?

>
>Not at all. No theories are involved, just facts. She broke the
>windshield - he pays to replace it. It's zero percent the car's fault
>and 100% the operator's. But they can claim it on their comprehensive
>insurance because it was done accidentally.


I disagree. I have often just let the wipers smack the windshield. Not
too hard of course, but I also don't place them gently back on the
glass. It seems to me that windshield glass should take a bigger
impact than rubber blades hitting it, even at 20F.

Tegger 01-12-2009 03:49 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
a <a@thisisnotmyrealemail.com> wrote in
news:v%ual.4455$PH1.1030@edtnps82:

> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> When our Toyota had a similar issue (cracked windshield within the
>> warranty period) the service writer ran a ball point pen along the
>> crack to check for a chip. When the pen snagged in a chip he
>> explained it wasn't a defect, it was damage and referred us to our
>> insurance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>

>
> That seems like a rather un-scientific and arbitrary way to test for a
> chip...
>
> a





That's the way they do it, like it or not.


And it's more scientific than you think. Since a ballpoint pen has a sphere
on the end, it can find the very tiniest chips in the glass.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Al 01-12-2009 04:54 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
dgk wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:06:52 -0500, Al <al@spamless.com> wrote:
>
>> News wrote:
>>> c wrote:
>>>> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
>>>>>> against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
>>>>>> the windshield!
>>>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
>>>>>> will be prone to cracks, etc.
>>>>>> Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.
>>>>>> c
>>>>> I Googled it and came up with this -
>>>>>
>>>>> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
>>>>> course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
>>>>> a leg to stand on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan D
>>>>> '07 Ody EX
>>>>> Central NJ USA
>>>> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
>>>> it's not covered.
>>>
>>> Theory of contributory negligence?

>> Not at all. No theories are involved, just facts. She broke the
>> windshield - he pays to replace it. It's zero percent the car's fault
>> and 100% the operator's. But they can claim it on their comprehensive
>> insurance because it was done accidentally.

>
> I disagree. I have often just let the wipers smack the windshield. Not
> too hard of course, but I also don't place them gently back on the
> glass. It seems to me that windshield glass should take a bigger
> impact than rubber blades hitting it, even at 20F.


Yes, but did you read the original post? "....my wife slapped the
driver side wiper against the windshield to break off some ice..."
There is a big difference between a rubber blade and an ice encrusted one.

c 01-12-2009 06:09 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote in news:0c76ba76-7ca1-4490-acf7-a37cd7b469d4
> @p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> > it's not covered.

>
> This is impossible to believe, frankly.
>
> Was the rubber blade attached, or did the steel arm itself slap the glass?
>
>
>
> > Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
> > crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.

>
> Problem is, you get what you pay for. Want rust around the pinchweld? Then
> go cheap.
>
> Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM. Aftermarket
> hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet. $200 windshield jobs
> are thus unobtainable at this point.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/


I think it's a combination of a LONG windshield, and a slap on a
frigid morning. Anyone who lives in a cold area knows you slap your
blades on the windshield to get off the ice. My wife did that but she
picked an area too high on the windshiled, IMHO. She should have done
it at the base, not about 1 ft. from the base as she did.

I can't say it's defective, but can say it's a fragile design
probably. Very long windshield and I bet the thickness of that glass
is minimal. Add to it a cold morning and some ice on the wiper and
you're asking for trouble.

The good news is that I found a glass dealer who can replace for $250.

c

Tegger 01-12-2009 10:45 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
c <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in
news:800025ab-fe36-4198-a9c7-e2062dc3610b@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>> c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:0c76ba76-7ca1-4490-acf7-a37cd7b469d

> 4
>> @p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on
>> > windshiled it's not covered.

>>
>> This is impossible to believe, frankly.
>>
>> Was the rubber blade attached, or did the steel arm itself slap the
>> glass

> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield!
>> > Holy crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay
>> > that.

>>
>> Problem is, you get what you pay for. Want rust around the pinchweld?
>> Then go cheap.
>>
>> Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM. Aftermarket
>> hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet. $200 windshield
>> jobs are thus unobtainable at this point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> I think it's a combination of a LONG windshield, and a slap on a
> frigid morning.




No.



> Anyone who lives in a cold area knows you slap your
> blades on the windshield to get off the ice.




I live in the Canadian province of Ontario. I am EXTREMELY familiar with
ice on the wipers!




> My wife did that but she
> picked an area too high on the windshiled, IMHO. She should have done
> it at the base, not about 1 ft. from the base as she did.
>
> I can't say it's defective, but can say it's a fragile design
> probably.




No it's not. Honda's not stupid enough to make a windshield that's so
very fragile as to crack from the impact of a rubber wiper blade, no
matter where it hits on the glass.




> Very long windshield and I bet the thickness of that glass
> is minimal. Add to it a cold morning and some ice on the wiper and
> you're asking for trouble.
>
> The good news is that I found a glass dealer who can replace for $250.
>




Make sure these people cover /each and every/ nick they make in the
paint with their brush-on primer, otherwise you will have rust in the
frame in no time and your corrosion warranty will be invalid.

You DID read the corrosion warranty, did you not...?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

c 01-13-2009 11:51 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 12, 4:09 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>
>
> > c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote in news:0c76ba76-7ca1-4490-acf7-a37cd7b469d4
> > @p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com:

>
> > > thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> > > it's not covered.

>
> > This is impossible to believe, frankly.

>
> > Was the rubber blade attached, or did the steel arm itself slap the glass?

>
> > > Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
> > > crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.

>
> > Problem is, you get what you pay for. Want rust around the pinchweld? Then
> > go cheap.

>
> > Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM. Aftermarket
> > hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet. $200 windshield jobs
> > are thus unobtainable at this point.

>
> > --
> > Tegger

>
> > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> I think it's a combination of a LONG windshield, and a slap on a
> frigid morning. Anyone who lives in a cold area knows you slap your
> blades on the windshield to get off the ice. My wife did that but she
> picked an area too high on the windshiled, IMHO. She should have done
> it at the base, not about 1 ft. from the base as she did.
>
> I can't say it's defective, but can say it's a fragile design
> probably. Very long windshield and I bet the thickness of that glass
> is minimal. Add to it a cold morning and some ice on the wiper and
> you're asking for trouble.
>
> The good news is that I found a glass dealer who can replace for $250.
>
> c


Update, there is no after market windshield for the 09 Fit yet (as of
Jan 13, 09). So everyone has to buy from Honda and I can't find it for
cheper than $750!!!!

We're going to live with the crack and wait for after market to become
available.

c

Tegger 01-13-2009 02:01 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
c <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1745f8e8-e1da-4bc3-9f27-65464fc22480@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com:

>> On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>


>>
>> > Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM.
>> > Aftermarket hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet.
>> > $200 windshield jobs are thus unobtainable at this point.

>>

>
>
> Update, there is no after market windshield for the 09 Fit yet (as of
> Jan 13, 09).




Like I said above...



> So everyone has to buy from Honda and I can't find it for
> cheper than $750!!!!
>
> We're going to live with the crack and wait for after market to become
> available.
>




You'll be waiting at least a year, I'm sure.


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e.meyer 01-13-2009 06:36 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 9, 11:28 am, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
> > > against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
> > > the windshield!

>
> > > Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
> > > will be prone to cracks, etc.

>
> > > Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.

>
> > > c

>
> > I Googled it and came up with this -

>
> >http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0

>
> > Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
> > course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
> > a leg to stand on.

>
> > Dan D
> > '07 Ody EX
> > Central NJ USA

>
> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> it's not covered.
>
> Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
> crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.
>
> c


So take it to a different dealer and exercise your right to keep
silent. Just ask them to check it out. If they can't find an obvious
impact mark/chip on the glass they should replace it.

MLD 01-13-2009 06:47 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 

"e.meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f65cdfb1-49d7-4d7f-a408-bee117549290@j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 9, 11:28 am, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
> > > against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
> > > the windshield!

>
> > > Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
> > > will be prone to cracks, etc.

>
> > > Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.

>
> > > c

>
> > I Googled it and came up with this -

>
> >http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0

>
> > Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
> > course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
> > a leg to stand on.

>
> > Dan D
> > '07 Ody EX
> > Central NJ USA

>
> thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> it's not covered.
>
> Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
> crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.
>
> c


So take it to a different dealer and exercise your right to keep
silent. Just ask them to check it out. If they can't find an obvious
impact mark/chip on the glass they should replace it.

Or ride behind some 18 wheelers until one of them kicks up a stone. Or park
in the middle of a bunch of kids throwing stones at each other.


Grumpy AuContraire 01-13-2009 08:36 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 


Tegger wrote:

> c <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1745f8e8-e1da-4bc3-9f27-65464fc22480@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>>>On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>>

>
>
>>>>Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM.
>>>>Aftermarket hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet.
>>>>$200 windshield jobs are thus unobtainable at this point.
>>>

>>
>>Update, there is no after market windshield for the 09 Fit yet (as of
>>Jan 13, 09).

>
>
>
>
> Like I said above...
>
>
>
>
>>So everyone has to buy from Honda and I can't find it for
>>cheper than $750!!!!
>>
>>We're going to live with the crack and wait for after market to become
>>available.
>>

>
>
>
>
> You'll be waiting at least a year, I'm sure.
>
>



Heh... Here in Texas, folks drive for years with cracked windshields
where inspection requirements are lax. OTOH, they' fail you if there is
so much as a chip in a sealed beam.

Of course, some states don't allow such so they will fail inspection.

Howz da weathah up thar?

JT


Tegger 01-13-2009 10:01 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in news:Qkbbl.284898
$Mh5.195667@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>


>>
>>
>> You'll be waiting at least a year, I'm sure.
>>
>>

>
>
> Heh... Here in Texas, folks drive for years with cracked windshields
> where inspection requirements are lax.





My province doesn't have an annual inspection, so you can drive around
forever like that if you want. I see few cracked windshields in spite of
that; people seem to fix them quickly on their own.




> OTOH, they' fail you if there is
> so much as a chip in a sealed beam.
>
> Of course, some states don't allow such so they will fail inspection.
>
> Howz da weathah up thar?
>




Bloodly cold. Supposed to go down to -4F overnight. Sucks.



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Tegger 01-14-2009 06:08 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in
news:Xns9B92E0202D0A4tegger@208.90.168.18:

> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:Qkbbl.284898 $Mh5.195667@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

..
>>
>> Howz da weathah up thar?
>>

>
>
>
> Bloodly cold. Supposed to go down to -4F overnight. Sucks.
>
>




6:07AM: Thermometer says -15F.

Weather channel says it's going to WARM UP to -4F.

Blah.


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Michael Pardee 01-14-2009 07:42 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 

"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9B933E6CF57E4tegger@208.90.168.18...
>
>
>
> 6:07AM: Thermometer says -15F.
>
> Weather channel says it's going to WARM UP to -4F.
>
> Blah.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>


Durned global warming! ;-) Although I hear the global warming model - and
Madame Zindar on the outskirts of town - predicted that.



e.meyer 01-14-2009 10:58 AM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 13, 5:47 pm, "MLD" <M...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "e.meyer" <epmeye...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f65cdfb1-49d7-4d7f-a408-bee117549290@j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 9, 11:28 am, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 6:20 am, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Jan 6, 1:08 pm, c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > Yesterday morning at 20 degrees my wife slapped the driver side wiper
> > > > against the windshield to break off some ice and snow and we cracked
> > > > the windshield!

>
> > > > Anyone else had this problem? Seems like the long windshield design
> > > > will be prone to cracks, etc.

>
> > > > Other than that we're happy as larks with our Fit.

>
> > > > c

>
> > > I Googled it and came up with this -

>
> > >http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f143540/0

>
> > > Seems like there might be an issue with the windshields anyways. Of
> > > course, in your case, you caused the crack so you probably don't have
> > > a leg to stand on.

>
> > > Dan D
> > > '07 Ody EX
> > > Central NJ USA

>
> > thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
> > it's not covered.

>
> > Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield! Holy
> > crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.

>
> > c

>
> So take it to a different dealer and exercise your right to keep
> silent. Just ask them to check it out. If they can't find an obvious
> impact mark/chip on the glass they should replace it.
>
> Or ride behind some 18 wheelers until one of them kicks up a stone. Orpark
> in the middle of a bunch of kids throwing stones at each other.


Huh? Either you don't understand what I'm trying to say here or
you're just a jerk.

The point is by telling the dealer they hit it with the wipers the OP
gave them an out to deny the warranty claim. Go to a different dealer
and just ask them to adjust the windshield without making any
explanation and they probably will do it.

Grumpy AuContraire 01-14-2009 07:00 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 


Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B933E6CF57E4tegger@208.90.168.18...
>
>>
>>
>>6:07AM: Thermometer says -15F.
>>
>>Weather channel says it's going to WARM UP to -4F.
>>
>>Blah.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Tegger
>>
>>The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>>www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>>

>
>
> Durned global warming! ;-) Although I hear the global warming model - and
> Madame Zindar on the outskirts of town - predicted that.
>



Yeah... Where the hell is Al Gore(d) when you need 'im?

<G>

JT

Dano58 01-15-2009 01:29 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Jan 14, 7:42 am, "Michael Pardee" <n...@null.org> wrote:
>
> Durned global warming! ;-) Although I hear the global warming model - and
> Madame Zindar on the outskirts of town - predicted that.


It's not called 'global warming' any more - now they call it 'climate
change' so they can include events like the deep freeze that we're
experiencing now and not change their charts and still blame 'man'
exclusively....

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA

Grumpy AuContraire 01-15-2009 07:26 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 


Dano58 wrote:

> On Jan 14, 7:42 am, "Michael Pardee" <n...@null.org> wrote:
>
>>Durned global warming! ;-) Although I hear the global warming model - and
>>Madame Zindar on the outskirts of town - predicted that.

>
>
> It's not called 'global warming' any more - now they call it 'climate
> change' so they can include events like the deep freeze that we're
> experiencing now and not change their charts and still blame 'man'
> exclusively....
>
> Dan D
> '07 Ody EX
> Central NJ USA



Yep, a form of the "dance 'n twist!"

Despite virtually all of the current raw climate data pointing toward a
continued cooling, (a cyclical norm), they still pout, cry and whimper
chicken little tunz.

Ya gotta luv 'em!

JT


jim beam 01-15-2009 10:55 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:09:58 -0800, c wrote:

> On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>> c <barney...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:0c76ba76-7ca1-4490-acf7-a37cd7b469d4
>> @p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > thanks for info. Dealer said because we slapped wiper on windshiled
>> > it's not covered.

>>
>> This is impossible to believe, frankly.
>>
>> Was the rubber blade attached, or did the steel arm itself slap the
>> glass?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Amazingly, Elite glass in Denver wants $700 for a new windshield!
>> > Holy crap. Still doing research though, obviously not gonna pay that.

>>
>> Problem is, you get what you pay for. Want rust around the pinchweld?
>> Then go cheap.
>>
>> Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM. Aftermarket
>> hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet. $200 windshield
>> jobs are thus unobtainable at this point.
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> I think it's a combination of a LONG windshield, and a slap on a frigid
> morning. Anyone who lives in a cold area knows you slap your blades on
> the windshield to get off the ice. My wife did that but she picked an
> area too high on the windshiled, IMHO. She should have done it at the
> base, not about 1 ft. from the base as she did.
>
> I can't say it's defective, but can say it's a fragile design probably.
> Very long windshield and I bet the thickness of that glass is minimal.
> Add to it a cold morning and some ice on the wiper and you're asking for
> trouble.


much more likely there was a pre-existing stone chip or other surface
defect.

in the lab, glass can be incredibly strong. just amazingly so. but in
the real world, the slightest flaw leads to fracture. that's why
toughened glass is strong, not because it's not flawed, but because the
flaws it has are kept under compression so the un-flawed part of the
glass, the center not exposed to atmosphere, retains strength.

as for your windshield, you may be able to use one of those acrylic repair
kits. than can achieve very good results when done right.


>
> The good news is that I found a glass dealer who can replace for $250.
>
> c



Dillon Pyron 01-16-2009 11:41 PM

Re: 09 Honda Fit windshield crack
 
Thus spake Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> :

>
>
>Tegger wrote:
>
>> c <barneytoe@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1745f8e8-e1da-4bc3-9f27-65464fc22480@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>>>On Jan 9, 4:29 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>>>

>>
>>
>>>>>Plus, the car so new that the available glass is all OEM.
>>>>>Aftermarket hasn't got around to making glass for this car yet.
>>>>>$200 windshield jobs are thus unobtainable at this point.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Update, there is no after market windshield for the 09 Fit yet (as of
>>>Jan 13, 09).

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Like I said above...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>So everyone has to buy from Honda and I can't find it for
>>>cheper than $750!!!!
>>>
>>>We're going to live with the crack and wait for after market to become
>>>available.
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll be waiting at least a year, I'm sure.
>>
>>

>
>
>Heh... Here in Texas, folks drive for years with cracked windshields
>where inspection requirements are lax. OTOH, they' fail you if there is
>so much as a chip in a sealed beam.


Yeah, but I once watched a chip turn into a huge crack in front of my
eyes when I turned the defroster on on a cold, bitter Dallas winter
morning.

But yeah, I've seen some pretty badly beaten up windshields. I've
also heard of some cops pulling people over and giving them tickets
for "unsafe vehicle". Judge requires proof of repair and new
inspection to dismiss.

>
>Of course, some states don't allow such so they will fail inspection.
>
>Howz da weathah up thar?
>
>JT

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