1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

My 1988 Prelude S definitely needs new driveaxles. The clicking in the
turns from the outboard CV joints is very noticeable. Both sides will be
needing replacement. The Honda part for the driveaxles does not include the
inboard CV Joint, only the axle and the outboard CV joint.
What is the best way to tell if the inboard joint(s) need replacing as
well. Do I just get under there and pull on the axles to listen for
clicking and watch for movement?
Which cv joints are more prone to failure-- inboard or outboard. The
inboard joints are almost as expensive as the driveaxles, but I want to make
sure the problem is fixed correctly.

I appreciate any replies, ideas and stories about replacing your own
driveaxles.

Thanks in advance,

Matthew Brown
Memphis

Re: 1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

Try www.raxles.com
they sell new axles for a good price, no core return


"Matthew Brown" <sliceoflifephoto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> My 1988 Prelude S definitely needs new driveaxles. The clicking in the
> turns from the outboard CV joints is very noticeable. Both sides will be
> needing replacement. The Honda part for the driveaxles does not include
the
> inboard CV Joint, only the axle and the outboard CV joint.
> What is the best way to tell if the inboard joint(s) need replacing as
> well. Do I just get under there and pull on the axles to listen for
> clicking and watch for movement?
> Which cv joints are more prone to failure-- inboard or outboard. The
> inboard joints are almost as expensive as the driveaxles, but I want to
make
> sure the problem is fixed correctly.
>
> I appreciate any replies, ideas and stories about replacing your own
> driveaxles.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matthew Brown
> Memphis
>
>

Re: 1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

The outboard ones are definitely more prone to wearing out.
They are also not serviceable, whereas the inboard ones are, you can
get a new spider and rollers. If they are still ok, you can
just transfer them over to the new shaft.

However, most parts stores sell the shafts at a pretty reasonable price,
you should consider doing that as well...

If there is excessive play on the inboard shaft once you pull
them out of the trannie, then you may want to replace the rollers and
spider... Also, make sure you watch which way the rollers come off of the
spider, the groove goes
a certain way, it should show in the book, if you have it.

t

Re: 1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

Matt,

i just repacked my accord outter CV joint and put a new boot on it. The
boot busted and since i caught it soon after breaking I knew I had a chance
of just repacking the grease and replaceing the boot to avoid that annoying
clicking. My point is, the job was pretty easy, and like the guys have
already suggested, either go to www.raxles.com or a local car parts store
[raxles gives you new parts, local auto stores give you rebuilt, so consider
the source (NAPA might be reliable, or others, so you decide.)] and get a
new axle for your application.

You are posting on this forum so i am assuming you have tackled a few DIY
jobs on your car before, is this true? So, if you feel you have a good jack
and blocks, a good set of tools to twist nuts and bolts, and a good tool to
remove a couple ball joints then you may want to read over this DIY and get
to work. This DIY helped me.

http://members.tripod.com/fluffysavanh/driveshaft.htm

Good Luck, you can do it! This was the first time i ever did *any* CV joint
work, and I am so surprised to know how easy it is. Repacking the grease
was a real dirty job, but if you get the complete axle your job will be much
cleaner.

Tom



"Matthew Brown" <sliceoflifephoto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> My 1988 Prelude S definitely needs new driveaxles. The clicking in the
> turns from the outboard CV joints is very noticeable. Both sides will be
> needing replacement. The Honda part for the driveaxles does not include
the
> inboard CV Joint, only the axle and the outboard CV joint.
> What is the best way to tell if the inboard joint(s) need replacing as
> well. Do I just get under there and pull on the axles to listen for
> clicking and watch for movement?
> Which cv joints are more prone to failure-- inboard or outboard. The
> inboard joints are almost as expensive as the driveaxles, but I want to
make
> sure the problem is fixed correctly.
>
> I appreciate any replies, ideas and stories about replacing your own
> driveaxles.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matthew Brown
> Memphis
>
>

Re: 1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Matt,
>
> i just repacked my accord outter CV joint and put a new boot on it. The
> boot busted and since i caught it soon after breaking I knew I had a
chance
> of just repacking the grease and replaceing the boot to avoid that
annoying
> clicking. My point is, the job was pretty easy, and like the guys have
> already suggested, either go to www.raxles.com or a local car parts store
> [raxles gives you new parts, local auto stores give you rebuilt, so
consider
> the source (NAPA might be reliable, or others, so you decide.)] and get a
> new axle for your application.
>


Here's something for y'all to think about, and no, it's not a plug for
anyone or a bash against anyone.

Parts like rebuilt CV shafts - there's only a few companies that do 'em.
CCT and CVT are the two off the top of my head. Napa and Autozone both sell
CCT rebuilt shafts. CCT and Autozone warranty them for lifetime (boots
too), I'm not sure about Napa, but they may have a LLT on them. Autozone
probably has a better price. They've definitely got better warranty
service - try goin back to Napa w/o a receipt. They'll run you about $80-60
(depending on ABS/no ABS) at Autozone, the no ABS are in stock
(http://www.autozone.com). The Napa website (http://www.napaonline.com)
didn't have anything listed for CV Halfshafts for the '88 Prelude, so I
couldn't come up with any pricing info for ya.

Just a little for ya to think about...


Jeremy



> You are posting on this forum so i am assuming you have tackled a few DIY
> jobs on your car before, is this true? So, if you feel you have a good
jack
> and blocks, a good set of tools to twist nuts and bolts, and a good tool
to
> remove a couple ball joints then you may want to read over this DIY and
get
> to work. This DIY helped me.
>
> http://members.tripod.com/fluffysavanh/driveshaft.htm
>
> Good Luck, you can do it! This was the first time i ever did *any* CV
joint
> work, and I am so surprised to know how easy it is. Repacking the grease
> was a real dirty job, but if you get the complete axle your job will be
much
> cleaner.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Matthew Brown" <sliceoflifephoto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:YnRhc.10484$_o3.344392@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > My 1988 Prelude S definitely needs new driveaxles. The clicking in the
> > turns from the outboard CV joints is very noticeable. Both sides will be
> > needing replacement. The Honda part for the driveaxles does not include
> the
> > inboard CV Joint, only the axle and the outboard CV joint.
> > What is the best way to tell if the inboard joint(s) need replacing
as
> > well. Do I just get under there and pull on the axles to listen for
> > clicking and watch for movement?
> > Which cv joints are more prone to failure-- inboard or outboard.
The
> > inboard joints are almost as expensive as the driveaxles, but I want to
> make
> > sure the problem is fixed correctly.
> >
> > I appreciate any replies, ideas and stories about replacing your own
> > driveaxles.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Matthew Brown
> > Memphis
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

JC wrote:
>
> Here's something for y'all to think about, and no, it's not a plug for
> anyone or a bash against anyone.
>
> Parts like rebuilt CV shafts - there's only a few companies that do 'em.
> CCT and CVT are the two off the top of my head. Napa and Autozone both
> sell CCT rebuilt shafts. CCT and Autozone warranty them for lifetime
> (boots too), I'm not sure about Napa, but they may have a LLT on them.
> Autozone probably has a better price. They've definitely got better
> warranty service - try goin back to Napa w/o a receipt. They'll run you
> about $80-60 (depending on ABS/no ABS) at Autozone, the no ABS are in
> stock (http://www.autozone.com). The Napa website
> (http://www.napaonline.com) didn't have anything listed for CV Halfshafts
> for the '88 Prelude, so I couldn't come up with any pricing info for ya.

Something else to think about... about two years ago I bought a
remanufactured driveshaft from Majestic Honda
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com. I was hoping to receive the same style
driveshaft that Honda has been using for years except with a new outer
joint, boots, etc. However, what I received was a new looking part that was
manufactured by GKN. I may be mistaken, but I believe that GKN is the oem
for several car manufacturers including Toyota. The part fit well and has
worked flawlessly since I installed it although it does use different boots
than the stock Honda driveshaft. The prices for driveshafts at Majestic are
a little high, thus you may be able to find a GKN driveshaft from other
sources for less.

Eric

Re: 1988 Prelude CV joint problem
 

"Matthew Brown" <sliceoflifephoto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:YnRhc.10484$_o3.344392@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My 1988 Prelude S definitely needs new driveaxles. The clicking in the
> turns from the outboard CV joints is very noticeable. Both sides will be
> needing replacement. The Honda part for the driveaxles does not include
the
> inboard CV Joint, only the axle and the outboard CV joint.
> What is the best way to tell if the inboard joint(s) need replacing as
> well. Do I just get under there and pull on the axles to listen for
> clicking and watch for movement?
> Which cv joints are more prone to failure-- inboard or outboard. The
> inboard joints are almost as expensive as the driveaxles, but I want to
make
> sure the problem is fixed correctly.
>
> I appreciate any replies, ideas and stories about replacing your own
> driveaxles.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matthew Brown
> Memphis

Matt,
As the majority of the other respondents stated, I believe that replacing
the cv axles with ones from an auto parts store is the best way to go.
However, let me give you some further information that may aid your decision
making process. The outer cv joint is the one that usually fails first
because it moves (flexing the boot) in all directions. The inner joint is
simply a plunge joint (moves in and out only) and not likely to crack the
boot and/or cause joint failure.The outer joint is a cages roller bearing
joint allowing movement through all directions. When the outer boot fails,
cracks or whatever joint protection from water, dirt, sand, etc., is
compromised. Also the lubricant is slung out through the crack and the
bearings fail quite quickly. Both the inner and outer joint can be rebuilt.
NAPA generally carries both but it is quite time consuming and usually less
than satisfactory because if you fail to remove every particle of
contaminants the joint life is shortened. Another consideration - joint
service kits/rebuild kits are usually more expensive than a relacement axle
and much harder for the DIY to do. A point of clarification - most of the
axles available from auto parts stores are remanufactured axles not rebuilt
axles. The two terms are used almost interchangeably by many people but they
are quite different. A rebuilt axle is one in which the failed part(s) are
repaired or replaced and the serviceable parts are re-intstalled. A
remanufactured axle is one in which all of the wear or consumable parts are
replaced with new parts, such as, boots, bearings, bearing cages, boot
clamps, and e-clips or snap rings. The only parts that are reused are the
inner and outer cans. These parts are closely inspcted (by the reputable
companies) and replaced if needed. As far as I know, NAPA also gives a
lifetime warranty on their remans, inclu. the boots. At least the stores
here in Fairbanks Alaska do... Hope this helps. Good luck...

Dave D