1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. Thanx in advance! Jonathan |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > >Thanx in advance! > >Jonathan before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). "alot is not a word" Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > >Thanx in advance! > >Jonathan before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). "alot is not a word" Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > >Thanx in advance! > >Jonathan before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). "alot is not a word" Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > >Thanx in advance! > >Jonathan before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). "alot is not a word" Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com... > In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote: > >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > > >Thanx in advance! > > > >Jonathan > > before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on > seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). > > "alot is not a word" > Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com... > In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote: > >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > > >Thanx in advance! > > > >Jonathan > > before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on > seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). > > "alot is not a word" > Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com... > In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote: > >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > > >Thanx in advance! > > > >Jonathan > > before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on > seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). > > "alot is not a word" > Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com... > In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote: > >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > > >Thanx in advance! > > > >Jonathan > > before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on > seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds). > > "alot is not a word" > Uncle Mike |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor & any other mechanism aside the belt Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a shot. Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full price". silly, I know, but thats the way it is.... "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m... > On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > Thanx in advance! > > Jonathan > > |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor & any other mechanism aside the belt Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a shot. Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full price". silly, I know, but thats the way it is.... "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m... > On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > Thanx in advance! > > Jonathan > > |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor & any other mechanism aside the belt Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a shot. Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full price". silly, I know, but thats the way it is.... "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m... > On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > Thanx in advance! > > Jonathan > > |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor & any other mechanism aside the belt Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a shot. Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full price". silly, I know, but thats the way it is.... "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m... > On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working. > I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage > when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the > ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The > dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor" > that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force > the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my > sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or > something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go > to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The > fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused. > > Thanx in advance! > > Jonathan > > |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Yuri Nebogatov wrote:
> > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Yuri Nebogatov wrote:
> > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Yuri Nebogatov wrote:
> > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Yuri Nebogatov wrote:
> > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I haven't
touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of money to burn right now. Thanx again, Jonathan "Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:40282594.30011AAD@spam.now... > Yuri Nebogatov wrote: > > > > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt > > This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic > that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did > not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I haven't
touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of money to burn right now. Thanx again, Jonathan "Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:40282594.30011AAD@spam.now... > Yuri Nebogatov wrote: > > > > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt > > This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic > that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did > not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I haven't
touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of money to burn right now. Thanx again, Jonathan "Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:40282594.30011AAD@spam.now... > Yuri Nebogatov wrote: > > > > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt > > This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic > that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did > not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I haven't
touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of money to burn right now. Thanx again, Jonathan "Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:40282594.30011AAD@spam.now... > Yuri Nebogatov wrote: > > > > not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer... > > he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the > > motor & any other mechanism aside the belt > > This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic > that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did > not involve the actual belt. |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> > So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I > haven't touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can > easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact > that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / > warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was > wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of > information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of > money to burn right now. If I remember correctly, the recall was only for the latching mechanism. It seems that the red plastic insert on one of the brands of latches that was used would crack and break apart. This would leave small bits of plastic down in the latch which would prevent it from functioning correctly. For example, I believe that there was mention of the seat belt potentially not restraining the driver/passenger in the event of a collision. Honda issued a service bulletin for this recall though I don't have the specific information at this time. You may want to call an independent Honda shop as well as a Honda dealer in your area to get an estimate on the repairs and to see if Honda will cover it under warranty. Eric |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> > So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I > haven't touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can > easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact > that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / > warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was > wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of > information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of > money to burn right now. If I remember correctly, the recall was only for the latching mechanism. It seems that the red plastic insert on one of the brands of latches that was used would crack and break apart. This would leave small bits of plastic down in the latch which would prevent it from functioning correctly. For example, I believe that there was mention of the seat belt potentially not restraining the driver/passenger in the event of a collision. Honda issued a service bulletin for this recall though I don't have the specific information at this time. You may want to call an independent Honda shop as well as a Honda dealer in your area to get an estimate on the repairs and to see if Honda will cover it under warranty. Eric |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> > So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I > haven't touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can > easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact > that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / > warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was > wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of > information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of > money to burn right now. If I remember correctly, the recall was only for the latching mechanism. It seems that the red plastic insert on one of the brands of latches that was used would crack and break apart. This would leave small bits of plastic down in the latch which would prevent it from functioning correctly. For example, I believe that there was mention of the seat belt potentially not restraining the driver/passenger in the event of a collision. Honda issued a service bulletin for this recall though I don't have the specific information at this time. You may want to call an independent Honda shop as well as a Honda dealer in your area to get an estimate on the repairs and to see if Honda will cover it under warranty. Eric |
Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
Jonathan Upright wrote:
> > So, if it is a recall, could the dealer still bill me for labor? I > haven't touched anything yet aside from unplugging the motor, but I can > easily plug that back up before I take it to a dealer. Would the fact > that my car has a salvage title have any bearing on the recall / > warranty? (Of course, I wouldn't volunteer that information, but I was > wondering just in case they looked up the VIN for that type of > information before doing any work) Obviously, I don't have a lot of > money to burn right now. If I remember correctly, the recall was only for the latching mechanism. It seems that the red plastic insert on one of the brands of latches that was used would crack and break apart. This would leave small bits of plastic down in the latch which would prevent it from functioning correctly. For example, I believe that there was mention of the seat belt potentially not restraining the driver/passenger in the event of a collision. Honda issued a service bulletin for this recall though I don't have the specific information at this time. You may want to call an independent Honda shop as well as a Honda dealer in your area to get an estimate on the repairs and to see if Honda will cover it under warranty. Eric |
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