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theo.chan@gmail.com 08-07-2005 04:20 PM

1990 civic wagon overheating?
 
OK, so I had a problem with overheating a week ago, and it turned out
the head gasket was gone. After having my mechanic clean out the
engine, adjust the timing, and replace the head gasket, everything was
fine and I made a 700km trip with no problems at all. One thing I did
notice was that my fuel consumption was up significantly (18mpg down
from 26mpg).

I was driving around today (regular speed, and regular outside
temperature) and all of a sudden smelled this rotten fish kind of
smell. Right after smelling this my engine temperature went way up to
the red, and stayed at the red for a few minutes before going through
the roof.

Opening up the engine and checking it, there was some sort of leak or
explosion of oily water all over the engine compartment. The oil and
coolant levels are ok, and the radiator fan comes on, but the radiator
itself is cool. On the way back home, the car stalled going up a big
hill (from about 2000rpm) for a second and then started again. After
parking the car, the engine would emit lots of white smoke when trying
to start, and wouldn't catch unless I added gas or roll started it. Any
ideas what the problem is and how much it might cost to fix? Could it
be something with the water pump?

Thanks!
Theo


Michael Pardee 08-07-2005 04:50 PM

Re: 1990 civic wagon overheating?
 
<theo.chan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123446012.123859.163760@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so I had a problem with overheating a week ago, and it turned out
> the head gasket was gone. After having my mechanic clean out the
> engine, adjust the timing, and replace the head gasket, everything was
> fine and I made a 700km trip with no problems at all. One thing I did
> notice was that my fuel consumption was up significantly (18mpg down
> from 26mpg).
>
> I was driving around today (regular speed, and regular outside
> temperature) and all of a sudden smelled this rotten fish kind of
> smell. Right after smelling this my engine temperature went way up to
> the red, and stayed at the red for a few minutes before going through
> the roof.
>
> Opening up the engine and checking it, there was some sort of leak or
> explosion of oily water all over the engine compartment. The oil and
> coolant levels are ok, and the radiator fan comes on, but the radiator
> itself is cool. On the way back home, the car stalled going up a big
> hill (from about 2000rpm) for a second and then started again. After
> parking the car, the engine would emit lots of white smoke when trying
> to start, and wouldn't catch unless I added gas or roll started it. Any
> ideas what the problem is and how much it might cost to fix? Could it
> be something with the water pump?
>
> Thanks!
> Theo
>

All that taken together points strongly to the head gasket again. Back to
the mechanic and it should be entirely his expense this time (unless the
head is warped and has to be milled - that part should be your expense).

Look at the coolant level in the radiator again - I suspect it will be way
down.

For the fuel consumption, that seems typical when the reinstalled timing
belt is off by one tooth on the cam sprocket - a very easy mistake to make.

Mike



Michael Pardee 08-07-2005 04:50 PM

Re: 1990 civic wagon overheating?
 
<theo.chan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123446012.123859.163760@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so I had a problem with overheating a week ago, and it turned out
> the head gasket was gone. After having my mechanic clean out the
> engine, adjust the timing, and replace the head gasket, everything was
> fine and I made a 700km trip with no problems at all. One thing I did
> notice was that my fuel consumption was up significantly (18mpg down
> from 26mpg).
>
> I was driving around today (regular speed, and regular outside
> temperature) and all of a sudden smelled this rotten fish kind of
> smell. Right after smelling this my engine temperature went way up to
> the red, and stayed at the red for a few minutes before going through
> the roof.
>
> Opening up the engine and checking it, there was some sort of leak or
> explosion of oily water all over the engine compartment. The oil and
> coolant levels are ok, and the radiator fan comes on, but the radiator
> itself is cool. On the way back home, the car stalled going up a big
> hill (from about 2000rpm) for a second and then started again. After
> parking the car, the engine would emit lots of white smoke when trying
> to start, and wouldn't catch unless I added gas or roll started it. Any
> ideas what the problem is and how much it might cost to fix? Could it
> be something with the water pump?
>
> Thanks!
> Theo
>

All that taken together points strongly to the head gasket again. Back to
the mechanic and it should be entirely his expense this time (unless the
head is warped and has to be milled - that part should be your expense).

Look at the coolant level in the radiator again - I suspect it will be way
down.

For the fuel consumption, that seems typical when the reinstalled timing
belt is off by one tooth on the cam sprocket - a very easy mistake to make.

Mike



jim beam 08-07-2005 09:36 PM

Re: 1990 civic wagon overheating?
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> <theo.chan@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123446012.123859.163760@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>OK, so I had a problem with overheating a week ago, and it turned out
>>the head gasket was gone. After having my mechanic clean out the
>>engine, adjust the timing, and replace the head gasket, everything was
>>fine and I made a 700km trip with no problems at all. One thing I did
>>notice was that my fuel consumption was up significantly (18mpg down
>>from 26mpg).
>>
>>I was driving around today (regular speed, and regular outside
>>temperature) and all of a sudden smelled this rotten fish kind of
>>smell. Right after smelling this my engine temperature went way up to
>>the red, and stayed at the red for a few minutes before going through
>>the roof.
>>
>>Opening up the engine and checking it, there was some sort of leak or
>>explosion of oily water all over the engine compartment. The oil and
>>coolant levels are ok, and the radiator fan comes on, but the radiator
>>itself is cool. On the way back home, the car stalled going up a big
>>hill (from about 2000rpm) for a second and then started again. After
>>parking the car, the engine would emit lots of white smoke when trying
>>to start, and wouldn't catch unless I added gas or roll started it. Any
>>ideas what the problem is and how much it might cost to fix? Could it
>>be something with the water pump?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Theo
>>

>
> All that taken together points strongly to the head gasket again.


or the head's cracked.

> Back to
> the mechanic and it should be entirely his expense this time (unless the
> head is warped and has to be milled - that part should be your expense).


well, that should have been checked before bothering to change the last
gasket...

>
> Look at the coolant level in the radiator again - I suspect it will be way
> down.


thermostat could do with a check too.

>
> For the fuel consumption, that seems typical when the reinstalled timing
> belt is off by one tooth on the cam sprocket - a very easy mistake to make.
>
> Mike
>
>



jim beam 08-07-2005 09:36 PM

Re: 1990 civic wagon overheating?
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> <theo.chan@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123446012.123859.163760@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>OK, so I had a problem with overheating a week ago, and it turned out
>>the head gasket was gone. After having my mechanic clean out the
>>engine, adjust the timing, and replace the head gasket, everything was
>>fine and I made a 700km trip with no problems at all. One thing I did
>>notice was that my fuel consumption was up significantly (18mpg down
>>from 26mpg).
>>
>>I was driving around today (regular speed, and regular outside
>>temperature) and all of a sudden smelled this rotten fish kind of
>>smell. Right after smelling this my engine temperature went way up to
>>the red, and stayed at the red for a few minutes before going through
>>the roof.
>>
>>Opening up the engine and checking it, there was some sort of leak or
>>explosion of oily water all over the engine compartment. The oil and
>>coolant levels are ok, and the radiator fan comes on, but the radiator
>>itself is cool. On the way back home, the car stalled going up a big
>>hill (from about 2000rpm) for a second and then started again. After
>>parking the car, the engine would emit lots of white smoke when trying
>>to start, and wouldn't catch unless I added gas or roll started it. Any
>>ideas what the problem is and how much it might cost to fix? Could it
>>be something with the water pump?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Theo
>>

>
> All that taken together points strongly to the head gasket again.


or the head's cracked.

> Back to
> the mechanic and it should be entirely his expense this time (unless the
> head is warped and has to be milled - that part should be your expense).


well, that should have been checked before bothering to change the last
gasket...

>
> Look at the coolant level in the radiator again - I suspect it will be way
> down.


thermostat could do with a check too.

>
> For the fuel consumption, that seems typical when the reinstalled timing
> belt is off by one tooth on the cam sprocket - a very easy mistake to make.
>
> Mike
>
>




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