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Gene Wagenbreth 02-05-2008 01:15 PM

1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open

No trouble with door in the past. This morning it will not open
from inside or outside. Everything feels OK with lock and door
handles. But the door doesnt budge.

So what do I do to try to fix it myself. Or where do I take it,
a body shop ? I don't like the dealer. For this old a car they
want to charge an arm and a leg and it isnt worth it.

sigh

Gene W

Jeff 02-05-2008 05:35 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Gene Wagenbreth wrote:
> 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
>
> No trouble with door in the past. This morning it will not open
> from inside or outside. Everything feels OK with lock and door
> handles. But the door doesnt budge.
>
> So what do I do to try to fix it myself. Or where do I take it,
> a body shop ? I don't like the dealer. For this old a car they
> want to charge an arm and a leg and it isnt worth it.
>
> sigh
>
> Gene W


Gene, the door has to come apart for it to get fixed. You can figure out
how to take it apart yourself or have someone else take it apart for
you. You have to figure out where the screws are hidden and get them out.

I did this for different cars, and it is a pain in the butt, but not
that hard.

Jeff

Tegger 02-05-2008 06:41 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4> wrote in news:foa933$kn7@venera.isi.edu:

> 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
>
> No trouble with door in the past. This morning it will not open
> from inside or outside. Everything feels OK with lock and door
> handles. But the door doesnt budge.
>
> So what do I do to try to fix it myself. Or where do I take it,
> a body shop ? I don't like the dealer. For this old a car they
> want to charge an arm and a leg and it isnt worth it.
>
>




Do you have AAA?



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Tegger

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Gene Wagenbreth 02-05-2008 07:07 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Do you have AAA?
>
>
>


Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger
door.

G

Justbob30 02-05-2008 08:33 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Let me ask the obvious question in January, is it frozen shut? did it rain
or snow last night, did it get below freezing?

"Gene Wagenbreth" <genewxxx@isi-OS4> wrote in message
news:foa933$kn7@venera.isi.edu...
> 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
>
> No trouble with door in the past. This morning it will not open
> from inside or outside. Everything feels OK with lock and door
> handles. But the door doesnt budge.
>
> So what do I do to try to fix it myself. Or where do I take it,
> a body shop ? I don't like the dealer. For this old a car they
> want to charge an arm and a leg and it isnt worth it.
>
> sigh
>
> Gene W



Tegger 02-05-2008 08:33 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4> wrote in news:foatns$p7k@venera.isi.edu:

> Tegger wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have AAA?
>>
>>
>>

>
> Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger
> door.
>
> G
>




Put the car keys on the seat. Lock all your doors and close them.

Call AAA. Tell them you locked yourself out and you need them to open the
door with their burglar tools.

The guy will unlock the door but discover he can't open it. You can then
ask him to manipulate the linkage from inside the door and get it open for
you. Evidently the door is now broken and you need to fix it, and you can't
fix it with the door shut, right?

You pay for AAA. Might as well use it.

I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few seconds, no
more.


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Jeff 02-05-2008 09:11 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Gene Wagenbreth wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have AAA?
>>
>>
>>

>
> Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger
> door.
>
> G


I don't think AAA will cover this.

Jeff 02-05-2008 09:13 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger wrote:
> Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4> wrote in news:foatns$p7k@venera.isi.edu:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have AAA?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger
>> door.
>>
>> G
>>

>
>
>
> Put the car keys on the seat. Lock all your doors and close them.
>
> Call AAA. Tell them you locked yourself out and you need them to open the
> door with their burglar tools.
>
> The guy will unlock the door but discover he can't open it. You can then
> ask him to manipulate the linkage from inside the door and get it open for
> you. Evidently the door is now broken and you need to fix it, and you can't
> fix it with the door shut, right?
>
> You pay for AAA. Might as well use it.
>
> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few seconds, no
> more.


Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your
keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't work.

Grumpy AuContraire 02-05-2008 09:16 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 


Tegger wrote:
> Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4> wrote in news:foatns$p7k@venera.isi.edu:
>
>
>>Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you have AAA?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger
>>door.
>>
>>G
>>

>
>
>
>
> Put the car keys on the seat. Lock all your doors and close them.
>
> Call AAA. Tell them you locked yourself out and you need them to open the
> door with their burglar tools.
>
> The guy will unlock the door but discover he can't open it. You can then
> ask him to manipulate the linkage from inside the door and get it open for
> you. Evidently the door is now broken and you need to fix it, and you can't
> fix it with the door shut, right?
>
> You pay for AAA. Might as well use it.
>
> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few seconds, no
> more.
>
>



OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA???

JT


Say What? 02-05-2008 09:21 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Jeff wrote:
>>
>>
>> Put the car keys on the seat. Lock all your doors and close them.
>>
>> Call AAA. Tell them you locked yourself out and you need them to open
>> the door with their burglar tools.
>>
>> The guy will unlock the door but discover he can't open it. You can
>> then ask him to manipulate the linkage from inside the door and get it
>> open for you. Evidently the door is now broken and you need to fix it,
>> and you can't fix it with the door shut, right?
>>
>> You pay for AAA. Might as well use it.
>>
>> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few
>> seconds, no more.

>
> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your
> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't work.



Leave a window open just in case!<g>

Most people have two sets of keys, no? He just "doesn't happen to have
them available"

Tegger 02-05-2008 10:00 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:pJ8qj.20100$Ou1.17944@trnddc07:


>
> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your
> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't
> work.



The point is that with the door open, you can now remove the door panel and
fix the broken clip. You can't do that with the door stuck shut.

The AAA will get your door open for FREE. Beats paying a body shop or
dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it with no
damage to door or trim.

--
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Tegger 02-05-2008 10:03 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:3M8qj.200916$MJ6.1339@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


>
>
> OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA???
>
> JT
>
>




We have CAA, which the Canadian equivalent. CAA and AAA share duties, so a
CAA membership is good for the US and a AAA membership is good for Canada.




--
Tegger

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Tegger 02-05-2008 10:06 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vH8qj.20099$Ou1.13091@trnddc07:

> Gene Wagenbreth wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have AAA?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the
>> passenger door.
>>
>> G

>
> I don't think AAA will cover this.
>





Part of AAA's job is getting you out of a locked car when you "don't have
spare keys".

Once the guy pops the lock and it's discovered the door won't open, you're
supposed to act all innocent and say, "Aw geez, now I'll have to take the
door panel off to fix it. Do you think you could move the latch mechanism
and get the door open for me?"

It's free and certainly worth a try before doing it the hard way, no?

--
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Tegger 02-05-2008 10:32 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A3BE0E47C28Ftegger@207.14.116.130:


>
> Part of AAA's job is getting you out of a locked car when you "don't
> have spare keys".




Unfortunate mistake!

That should read "getting you INTO a locked car..."



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Jim Yanik 02-05-2008 10:51 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A3BD13602D38tegger@207.14.116.130:


> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few
> seconds, no more.
>
>


I found out how fast when my Integra GS-R was stolen last June.
Not a good way to find out,either.

Death to auto thieves!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 02-05-2008 10:54 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A3BDFE26DBECtegger@207.14.116.130:

> Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:pJ8qj.20100$Ou1.17944@trnddc07:
>
>
>>
>> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your
>> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't
>> work.

>
>
> The point is that with the door open, you can now remove the door
> panel and fix the broken clip. You can't do that with the door stuck
> shut.
>
> The AAA will get your door open for FREE. Beats paying a body shop or
> dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it
> with no damage to door or trim.
>


reminds me of the joke about the [insert ethnic group] who locked his keys
in his car;


It took 2 hours to get his family out.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

jim beam 02-05-2008 11:10 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9A3BD13602D38tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>
>> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few
>> seconds, no more.
>>
>>

>
> I found out how fast when my Integra GS-R was stolen last June.
> Not a good way to find out,either.
>
> Death to auto thieves!
>


you need the gun and rottweiler solution. /really/ freakin' effective.


Tegger 02-05-2008 11:14 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:dJqdnQU5j4C4rjTanZ2dnUVZ_ufinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9A3BD13602D38tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>>
>>> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few
>>> seconds, no more.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I found out how fast when my Integra GS-R was stolen last June.
>> Not a good way to find out,either.
>>
>> Death to auto thieves!
>>

>
> you need the gun and rottweiler solution. /really/ freakin' effective.
>




Just don't shoot the Rottweiler.


--
Tegger

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jim beam 02-05-2008 11:22 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:dJqdnQU5j4C4rjTanZ2dnUVZ_ufinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9A3BD13602D38tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few
>>>> seconds, no more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I found out how fast when my Integra GS-R was stolen last June.
>>> Not a good way to find out,either.
>>>
>>> Death to auto thieves!
>>>

>> you need the gun and rottweiler solution. /really/ freakin' effective.
>>

>
>
>
> Just don't shoot the Rottweiler.
>
>

if the rotty's doing its job, you won't need to shoot anything! just
dial 911 and have the ambulance collect what's left of the remains out
of your driveway.

Jeff 02-05-2008 11:57 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger wrote:
> Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:pJ8qj.20100$Ou1.17944@trnddc07:
>
>
>> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your
>> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't
>> work.

>
>
> The point is that with the door open, you can now remove the door panel and
> fix the broken clip. You can't do that with the door stuck shut.
>
> The AAA will get your door open for FREE. Beats paying a body shop or
> dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it with no
> damage to door or trim.


On my car you can.

But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an emergency? By
we, I mean the other members of AAA.

Dave Kelsen 02-06-2008 07:39 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
On 2/5/2008 9:32 PM Tegger spake these words of knowledge:

> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9A3BE0E47C28Ftegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>
>>
>> Part of AAA's job is getting you out of a locked car when you "don't
>> have spare keys".

>
>
>
> Unfortunate mistake!
>
> That should read "getting you INTO a locked car..."


I seem to recall a popular "Blondestar" soundbite about doing it the
first way...


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
They think I'm paranoid; they all talk about it behind my back.

Tegger 02-06-2008 08:19 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:47A93E39.1040202@hotmail.com:

> Tegger wrote:
>> Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:pJ8qj.20100$Ou1.17944@trnddc07:
>>
>>
>>> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have
>>> your keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still
>>> won't work.

>>
>>
>> The point is that with the door open, you can now remove the door
>> panel and fix the broken clip. You can't do that with the door stuck
>> shut.
>>
>> The AAA will get your door open for FREE. Beats paying a body shop or
>> dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it
>> with no damage to door or trim.

>
> On my car you can.
>
> But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an emergency? By
> we, I mean the other members of AAA.
>



So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not.

This is not like government regulated insurance.


--
Tegger

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Grumpy AuContraire 02-06-2008 08:21 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 


Tegger wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:3M8qj.200916$MJ6.1339@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>
>>
>>OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA???
>>
>>JT
>>
>>

>
>
>
>
> We have CAA, which the Canadian equivalent. CAA and AAA share duties, so a
> CAA membership is good for the US and a AAA membership is good for Canada.
>


Ah thanks... For enlighting the ol' grump!

JT


Tegger 02-06-2008 08:36 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:cviqj.556344$kj1.226863@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>> news:3M8qj.200916$MJ6.1339@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA???
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We have CAA, which the Canadian equivalent. CAA and AAA share duties,
>> so a CAA membership is good for the US and a AAA membership is good
>> for Canada.
>>

>
> Ah thanks... For enlighting the ol' grump!
>




We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer.

We'd driven down to Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC for summer
vacation. At one point we were at Tyson's Galleria mall in McLean, VA.
After some shopping we went back to the car, only to discover the keys
were locked in. Oops! Called CAA in Canada, was switched to AAA. AAA
dispatched a guy who took an hour to get there (it was busy that night),
then was into the car in 10 seconds.

The hour's wait wasn't so bad. We just went for supper at Legal Seafoods
of Boston in Tyson's Galleria. We were finished and paying our bill the
instant the AAA guy phoned to say he was ten minutes away. Perfect
timing.

Worst part is my wife won't even allow the photos of that incident in
the picture album of the vacation! She's embarrassed because she's the
one that left the keys on the back seat.

By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was
excellent and the service impeccable.


--
Tegger

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Jeff 02-06-2008 08:45 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger wrote:
> Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:47A93E39.1040202@hotmail.com:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:pJ8qj.20100$Ou1.17944@trnddc07:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have
>>>> your keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still
>>>> won't work.
>>>
>>> The point is that with the door open, you can now remove the door
>>> panel and fix the broken clip. You can't do that with the door stuck
>>> shut.
>>>
>>> The AAA will get your door open for FREE. Beats paying a body shop or
>>> dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it
>>> with no damage to door or trim.

>> On my car you can.
>>
>> But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an emergency? By
>> we, I mean the other members of AAA.
>>

>
>
> So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not.
>
> This is not like government regulated insurance.


One of the costs of running AAA is paying for the service calls that the
tow truck and lock smiths make. If our costs go up, so do the fees.

If you have to lie to the operator and the people who come out to open
your vehicle, that should tell you you're doing something dishonest.

Jeff

Elle 02-06-2008 08:49 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
Jeff
>> But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an
>> emergency? By
>> we, I mean the other members of AAA.
>>

>
>
> So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not.


Of course they go up. If enough people abuse the "emergency"
feature like this, it's going to show up. This problem
exists in the U.S. Real problems with insurance fraud exist.

But people take advantage of the masses all the time.
Welfare and all. So it's okay in many people's minds to do
as you suggest.



Nick Cassimatis 02-06-2008 09:05 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pJ8qj.20100$Ou1.17944@trnddc07...

> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your
> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't work.


Or, if he's smart, he can open the other door.

--
Nick Cassimatis



Nick Cassimatis 02-06-2008 09:08 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9A3C57945FE6Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>
> We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer.
>
> We'd driven down to Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC for summer
> vacation. At one point we were at Tyson's Galleria mall in McLean, VA.
> After some shopping we went back to the car, only to discover the keys
> were locked in. Oops! Called CAA in Canada, was switched to AAA. AAA
> dispatched a guy who took an hour to get there (it was busy that night),
> then was into the car in 10 seconds.
>
> The hour's wait wasn't so bad. We just went for supper at Legal Seafoods
> of Boston in Tyson's Galleria. We were finished and paying our bill the
> instant the AAA guy phoned to say he was ten minutes away. Perfect
> timing.
>
> Worst part is my wife won't even allow the photos of that incident in
> the picture album of the vacation! She's embarrassed because she's the
> one that left the keys on the back seat.
>
> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was
> excellent and the service impeccable.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


He could have been 2 miles away when dispatched, and still taken the hour to
get there - that local area can have some of the worst traffic I've ever
seen. I can't imagine it the day after Thanksgiving (biggest shopping day
of the year).

--
Nick Cassimatis



Tegger 02-06-2008 09:08 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:13qjenbi2d4v9bd@corp.supernews.com:

> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> Jeff
>>> But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an
>>> emergency? By
>>> we, I mean the other members of AAA.
>>>

>>
>>
>> So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not.

>
> Of course they go up. If enough people abuse the "emergency"
> feature like this, it's going to show up. This problem
> exists in the U.S. Real problems with insurance fraud exist.
>
> But people take advantage of the masses all the time.
> Welfare and all. So it's okay in many people's minds to do
> as you suggest.
>
>



All right then.

Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them how much to come
over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them to get in quickly
and without damage, which is why you're calling them.

OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I gave him one. I
guess I should have considered the morality of the one I gave before doing
so.


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Tegger 02-06-2008 09:15 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A3C5CE2DE011tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:13qjenbi2d4v9bd@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> Jeff
>>>> But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an
>>>> emergency? By
>>>> we, I mean the other members of AAA.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not.

>>
>> Of course they go up. If enough people abuse the "emergency"
>> feature like this, it's going to show up. This problem
>> exists in the U.S. Real problems with insurance fraud exist.
>>
>> But people take advantage of the masses all the time.
>> Welfare and all. So it's okay in many people's minds to do
>> as you suggest.
>>
>>

>
>
> All right then.
>
> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them how much to
> come over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them to get
> in quickly and without damage, which is why you're calling them.
>
> OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I gave him one. I
> guess I should have considered the morality of the one I gave before
> doing so.
>
>



OR...

(And I suppose it's a shocking indictment of my own morality that I
hadn't thought of this until now.)

Just call AAA and tell them the truth: You ARE a AAA member. You have a
non-emergency situation. Your car door is stuck shut because something
broke inside of it. You need to get the door panel off before you can
get inside the door to fix it. You trust AAA to be able to get inside
the door quickly and without damage and pop the latch open, which is why
you're calling them. How much would they charge to come over and do it?

Never hurts to ask.


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Elle 02-06-2008 09:44 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them
> how much to come
> over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them
> to get in quickly
> and without damage, which is why you're calling them.
>
> OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I
> gave him one. I
> guess I should have considered the morality of the one I
> gave before doing
> so.


Screw morality, since it varies with people's moods. My
argument is based in something black-and-white: Mass
economics which depends in no small part on people
cooperating.

We gotta live together. Cheapest way of living together en
masse is to cooperate with certain rules designed to make
things as inexpensive en masse as possible.

I would very much be inclined to call AAA and ask how much
to open my busted door. It is an emergency in that one
cannot get out of the car while sitting at a traffic light.

We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether Honda
might even cover this under warranty.



Elle 02-06-2008 09:46 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> Just call AAA and tell them the truth: You ARE a AAA
> member. You have a
> non-emergency situation. Your car door is stuck shut
> because something
> broke inside of it. You need to get the door panel off
> before you can
> get inside the door to fix it. You trust AAA to be able to
> get inside
> the door quickly and without damage and pop the latch
> open, which is why
> you're calling them. How much would they charge to come
> over and do it?
>
> Never hurts to ask.


Indeed. Just like going to the doc's office or hospital
without insurance and asking if they give a discount for
paying cash.

Many docs and hospitals in the U.S. now do. Today more
haggling over prices takes place in U.S. medicine than in
the street markets of Mexico.

And please spare me how this is not a problem in Canada. :-)



Jeff 02-06-2008 09:50 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Elle wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them
>> how much to come
>> over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them
>> to get in quickly
>> and without damage, which is why you're calling them.
>>
>> OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I
>> gave him one. I
>> guess I should have considered the morality of the one I
>> gave before doing
>> so.

>
> Screw morality, since it varies with people's moods. My
> argument is based in something black-and-white: Mass
> economics which depends in no small part on people
> cooperating.
>
> We gotta live together. Cheapest way of living together en
> masse is to cooperate with certain rules designed to make
> things as inexpensive en masse as possible.
>
> I would very much be inclined to call AAA and ask how much
> to open my busted door. It is an emergency in that one
> cannot get out of the car while sitting at a traffic light.
>
> We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether Honda
> might even cover this under warranty.


In a 1990 car? I doubt it.

In some cars, you need to have a door open to get inside the door. Not
all, though.

Jeff

Seth 02-06-2008 09:51 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13qjht7okarqv07@corp.supernews.com...
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them how much to come
>> over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them to get in
>> quickly
>> and without damage, which is why you're calling them.
>>
>> OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I gave him one. I
>> guess I should have considered the morality of the one I gave before
>> doing
>> so.

>
> Screw morality, since it varies with people's moods. My argument is based
> in something black-and-white: Mass economics which depends in no small
> part on people cooperating.
>
> We gotta live together. Cheapest way of living together en masse is to
> cooperate with certain rules designed to make things as inexpensive en
> masse as possible.
>
> I would very much be inclined to call AAA and ask how much to open my
> busted door. It is an emergency in that one cannot get out of the car
> while sitting at a traffic light.
>
> We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether Honda might even
> cover this under warranty.


Well, non functioning brakes on a 15 year old vehicle is probably a more
"major safety issue" and I doubt they will cover that under warranty...


Elle 02-06-2008 10:31 AM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them
>>> how much to come
>>> over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them
>>> to get in quickly
>>> and without damage, which is why you're calling them.
>>>
>>> OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I
>>> gave him one. I
>>> guess I should have considered the morality of the one I
>>> gave before doing
>>> so.

>>
>> Screw morality, since it varies with people's moods. My
>> argument is based in something black-and-white: Mass
>> economics which depends in no small part on people
>> cooperating.
>>
>> We gotta live together. Cheapest way of living together
>> en masse is to cooperate with certain rules designed to
>> make things as inexpensive en masse as possible.
>>
>> I would very much be inclined to call AAA and ask how
>> much to open my busted door. It is an emergency in that
>> one cannot get out of the car while sitting at a traffic
>> light.
>>
>> We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether
>> Honda might even cover this under warranty.

>
> In a 1990 car? I doubt it.


In 2001 the auto retractor on my driver's side seat belt
failed on my 91 Civic. Turns out it has a seat belt
warranty. I did not pay a cent to have it fixed. It was not
a cheap fix, based on how long it took them.

> In some cars, you need to have a door open to get inside
> the door. Not all, though.


Speculation is drowning substantive discussion lately here.
I doubt it, too, but it's worth checking the warranty or
making a call.



Tegger 02-06-2008 07:58 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
"Nick Cassimatis" <nickpc0spam@nc.rr.com> wrote in
news:47a9d338$1$1107$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3C57945FE6Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>
>> We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer.
>>
>> We'd driven down to Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC for summer
>> vacation. At one point we were at Tyson's Galleria mall in McLean,
>> VA. After some shopping we went back to the car, only to discover the
>> keys were locked in. Oops! Called CAA in Canada, was switched to AAA.
>> AAA dispatched a guy who took an hour to get there (it was busy that
>> night), then was into the car in 10 seconds.
>>
>> The hour's wait wasn't so bad. We just went for supper at Legal
>> Seafoods of Boston in Tyson's Galleria. We were finished and paying
>> our bill the instant the AAA guy phoned to say he was ten minutes
>> away. Perfect timing.
>>
>> Worst part is my wife won't even allow the photos of that incident in
>> the picture album of the vacation! She's embarrassed because she's
>> the one that left the keys on the back seat.
>>
>> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was
>> excellent and the service impeccable.
>>
>>
>>

>
> He could have been 2 miles away when dispatched, and still taken the
> hour to get there - that local area can have some of the worst traffic
> I've ever seen.




You got that right.

But in this case, he was in DC when the dispatcher called him. He had to
drive all the way over to McLean from there.



> I can't imagine it the day after Thanksgiving
> (biggest shopping day of the year).
>



VA had a brief "tax holiday" during the August "Back to School" period.
We were right in the middle of that. The malls were nuts.


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Tegger 02-06-2008 08:02 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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>>>
>>> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food
>>> was excellent and the service impeccable.




By the way, there is somebody I know who follows this group but chooses
not to post. To him: We really meant to go to the Daily Grill, but never
made it... Next time. And there will be one!


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Grumpy AuContraire 02-06-2008 08:33 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 


Tegger wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:cviqj.556344$kj1.226863@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>>
>>Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>>>news:3M8qj.200916$MJ6.1339@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA???
>>>>
>>>>JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>We have CAA, which the Canadian equivalent. CAA and AAA share duties,
>>>so a CAA membership is good for the US and a AAA membership is good
>>>for Canada.
>>>

>>
>>Ah thanks... For enlighting the ol' grump!
>>

>
>
>
>
> We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer.
>
> We'd driven down to Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC for summer
> vacation. At one point we were at Tyson's Galleria mall in McLean, VA.
> After some shopping we went back to the car, only to discover the keys
> were locked in. Oops! Called CAA in Canada, was switched to AAA. AAA
> dispatched a guy who took an hour to get there (it was busy that night),
> then was into the car in 10 seconds.
>
> The hour's wait wasn't so bad. We just went for supper at Legal Seafoods
> of Boston in Tyson's Galleria. We were finished and paying our bill the
> instant the AAA guy phoned to say he was ten minutes away. Perfect
> timing.
>
> Worst part is my wife won't even allow the photos of that incident in
> the picture album of the vacation! She's embarrassed because she's the
> one that left the keys on the back seat.
>
> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was
> excellent and the service impeccable.
>
>



BTW, speakin' of Boston and food, if you ever get to that neck o' the
woods, don't miss a meal at Durgan Park. It's an experience of a lifetime!

JT


Tegger 02-06-2008 08:48 PM

Re: 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
 
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:Gdtqj.559078$kj1.129115@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Tegger wrote:


>>
>> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was
>> excellent and the service impeccable.
>>
>>

>
>
> BTW, speakin' of Boston and food, if you ever get to that neck o' the
> woods, don't miss a meal at Durgan Park. It's an experience of a
> lifetime!
>



Durgin Park
http://www.durgin-park.com/menu.asp

Thanks. Passing this on to the wife. We LOVE good restaurants.

And Boston is one of our next US venues.


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