1990 honda civic
can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am
having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls the fuel pump is this true? |
Re: 1990 honda civic
In article <6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, "bloodhound"
<nopewrong@your.com> wrote: > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls the > fuel pump is this true? If you don't get any responses except for this one, I suggest that you visit several auto parts stores in your town and buy a repair manual for your car. I have a manual made by a company named Haynes and the manual has really helped me find various parts on my car. Manuals by some of the other companies are even better. The Haynes manual for your car should have the following code number: 42023--Civics all models 1984-1991 -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: 1990 honda civic
In article <6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, "bloodhound"
<nopewrong@your.com> wrote: > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls the > fuel pump is this true? If you don't get any responses except for this one, I suggest that you visit several auto parts stores in your town and buy a repair manual for your car. I have a manual made by a company named Haynes and the manual has really helped me find various parts on my car. Manuals by some of the other companies are even better. The Haynes manual for your car should have the following code number: 42023--Civics all models 1984-1991 -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Jason wrote:
> In article <6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, "bloodhound" > <nopewrong@your.com> wrote: > > >>can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am >>having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the >>problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls the >>fuel pump is this true? > > > If you don't get any responses except for this one, I suggest that you > visit several auto parts stores in your town and buy a repair manual for > your car. I have a manual made by a company named Haynes and the manual > has really helped me find various parts on my car. Manuals by some of the > other companies are even better. The Haynes manual for your car should > have the following code number: > 42023--Civics all models 1984-1991 > that's great for most things, but in this instance, none i've seen adequately address the main relay issue. that's the single most common failure on this vehicle, and likely exactly the problem experienced by the op. |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Jason wrote:
> In article <6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, "bloodhound" > <nopewrong@your.com> wrote: > > >>can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am >>having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the >>problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls the >>fuel pump is this true? > > > If you don't get any responses except for this one, I suggest that you > visit several auto parts stores in your town and buy a repair manual for > your car. I have a manual made by a company named Haynes and the manual > has really helped me find various parts on my car. Manuals by some of the > other companies are even better. The Haynes manual for your car should > have the following code number: > 42023--Civics all models 1984-1991 > that's great for most things, but in this instance, none i've seen adequately address the main relay issue. that's the single most common failure on this vehicle, and likely exactly the problem experienced by the op. |
Re: 1990 honda civic
"bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message
news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls > the > fuel pump is this true? > > The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the internal circuit board crack). Mike |
Re: 1990 honda civic
"bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message
news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls > the > fuel pump is this true? > > The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the internal circuit board crack). Mike |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message > news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls > > the > > fuel pump is this true? > > > > > The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see > http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay > > The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the > internal circuit board crack). > Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace decision... When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the relay would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to replace it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and I suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the car. Eric |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message > news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls > > the > > fuel pump is this true? > > > > > The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see > http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay > > The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the > internal circuit board crack). > Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace decision... When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the relay would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to replace it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and I suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the car. Eric |
Re: 1990 honda civic
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:41D51B10.D9321B8F@spam.now...
> Michael Pardee wrote: >> >> "bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message >> news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... >> > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i >> > am >> > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the >> > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls >> > the >> > fuel pump is this true? >> > >> > >> The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see >> http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay >> >> The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the >> internal circuit board crack). >> > > Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace > decision... > > When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were > burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the > relay > would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've > polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to > replace > it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and > I > suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the > car. > > Eric Good point, Eric. Since the relay is no fun to get to, replacement of something that old looks attractive. I've worked in electronics for 30 years and my experience is that contacts that are visibly pitted are hopeless. Relay contacts are plated with palladium, and when that is gone the base metal under them oxidizes at the point of contact and ensures intermittents forevermore. Mike |
Re: 1990 honda civic
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:41D51B10.D9321B8F@spam.now...
> Michael Pardee wrote: >> >> "bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message >> news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... >> > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i >> > am >> > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the >> > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls >> > the >> > fuel pump is this true? >> > >> > >> The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see >> http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay >> >> The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the >> internal circuit board crack). >> > > Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace > decision... > > When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were > burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the > relay > would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've > polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to > replace > it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and > I > suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the > car. > > Eric Good point, Eric. Since the relay is no fun to get to, replacement of something that old looks attractive. I've worked in electronics for 30 years and my experience is that contacts that are visibly pitted are hopeless. Relay contacts are plated with palladium, and when that is gone the base metal under them oxidizes at the point of contact and ensures intermittents forevermore. Mike |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Eric wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote: > >>"bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message >>news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . >> >>>can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am >>>having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the >>>problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls >>>the >>>fuel pump is this true? >>> >>> >> >>The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see >>http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay >> >>The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the >>internal circuit board crack). >> > > > Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace decision... > > When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were > burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the relay > would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've > polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to replace > it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and I > suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the > car. > > Eric --------------- Best fix . . . replace the relay with a new one, but 'beef up' the solder on the new one, since wave solder on Japanese items can be way too thin to support the weight of a relay flopping around for 300,000 Km. 'Curly' |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Eric wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote: > >>"bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message >>news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . >> >>>can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am >>>having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the >>>problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls >>>the >>>fuel pump is this true? >>> >>> >> >>The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see >>http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay >> >>The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the >>internal circuit board crack). >> > > > Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace decision... > > When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were > burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the relay > would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've > polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to replace > it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and I > suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the > car. > > Eric --------------- Best fix . . . replace the relay with a new one, but 'beef up' the solder on the new one, since wave solder on Japanese items can be way too thin to support the weight of a relay flopping around for 300,000 Km. 'Curly' |
Re: 1990 honda civic
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I have an 88 Civic, with the main relay checking out OK, on continuity, but low (1-2 volts) voltage getting through to the fuel pump. Can these relays pass low or no voltage, even though they pass the continuity tests listed in the Haynes manual? HELP!! Frank PS: Also having other weirdness happening when I press the horn, (key in off position) the lights that come on at startup light up, and no horn sounds. Once key is on, this doesn't happen. "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:abCdnR6W4c90w0ncRVn-vg@sedona.net... > "bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message > news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls > > the > > fuel pump is this true? > > > > > The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see > http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay > > The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the > internal circuit board crack). > > Mike > > |
Re: 1990 honda civic
Oops, sent a reply to main poster, not the group.
I have an 88 Civic, with the main relay checking out OK, on continuity, but low (1-2 volts) voltage getting through to the fuel pump. Can these relays pass low or no voltage, even though they pass the continuity tests listed in the Haynes manual? HELP!! Frank PS: Also having other weirdness happening when I press the horn, (key in off position) the lights that come on at startup light up, and no horn sounds. Once key is on, this doesn't happen. "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:abCdnR6W4c90w0ncRVn-vg@sedona.net... > "bloodhound" <nopewrong@your.com> wrote in message > news:6iMAd.40776$mA3.16667@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am > > having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the > > problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls > > the > > fuel pump is this true? > > > > > The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see > http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay > > The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the > internal circuit board crack). > > Mike > > |
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