Joe-46er

Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.



_________________________________

"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Honda Doc

You can do it even though it is not easy to get to. First remove fuel cap
and leave off until finished. Loosen the 12mm bolt on top of the banjo bolt
on the filter. This will bleed off the fuel pressure. From there, just
remove both fittings, remove the filter (it's easier to just remove the
entire bracket with the filter) replace filter and crush washers, reinstall.



"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:8kol805ru2t23ov6uip3h25akgkud2t4pg@4ax.com...
> Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
> fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
> filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
> Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.
>
>
>
> _________________________________
>
> "Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." --
1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Caroline

Tips:

http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-214.pdf

http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-209.pdf

I have always changed my 1991 Civic's fuel filter (three times now) by myself.

"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
> Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
> fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
> filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
> Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.

Joe-46er

Hey Caroline, Honda Doc: Thanks for the info and for the
encouragement to do it myself. One problem: I'm not even sure now that
I have located the filter on my car !!!

With hood up, standing in front, at one-third the distance from edge
to edge of firewall left to right, I see a large black box attached
with 4 tubes coming out the top (splitting and going to the top of the
fuel injector something or other) and two electrical connections
going into it. It looks nothing like the PDF Caroline directed me to.

Any further help would be deeply appreciated.


On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:07:04 GMT, "Caroline"
<caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Tips:
>
>http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-214.pdf
>
>http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-209.pdf
>
>I have always changed my 1991 Civic's fuel filter (three times now) by myself.
>
>"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
>> Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
>> fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
>> filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
>> Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.
>




_________________________________

"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Caroline

Did you try to match up a new filter (that you presumably purchased) to what you
see on the firewall?

Colors might not match, but shapes and **especially fittings** should be pretty
dead on.

Here's a parts site drawing of a 91 Accord, 4 door LX manual transmission fuel
filter and lines. Note that Item 4 is the fuel filter. Note item 6, the strap
that goes around the filter to hold it in place.

http://tinyurl.com/yrtxc

I am doubtful that any electrical connections attach to your Accord's fuel
filter. I could be wrong, but none attach to mine, and I don't remember seeing
anyone comment on such electrical connections to 91 Honda fuel filters here at
the newsgroup.

Hang in there. The first time is always the toughest.

"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
> Hey Caroline, Honda Doc: Thanks for the info and for the
> encouragement to do it myself. One problem: I'm not even sure now that
> I have located the filter on my car !!!
>
> With hood up, standing in front, at one-third the distance from edge
> to edge of firewall left to right, I see a large black box attached
> with 4 tubes coming out the top (splitting and going to the top of the
> fuel injector something or other) and two electrical connections
> going into it. It looks nothing like the PDF Caroline directed me to.
>
> Any further help would be deeply appreciated.
>
>
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:07:04 GMT, "Caroline"
> <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Tips:
> >
> >http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-214.pdf
> >
> >http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-209.pdf
> >
> >I have always changed my 1991 Civic's fuel filter (three times now) by
myself.
> >
> >"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
> >> Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
> >> fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
> >> filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
> >> Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.

Joe-46er

Well, none of your sketches match. I do see the fuel filter and it is
mounted as the diagram shows, but behind and below the black box
mounted on the firewall I earlier described. The top of the fuel
filter has a connector to the bottom of the black box. I think my car
may be equipped with some kind of specialized system.

I also found a pic in the Haynes accord manual the fuel filter is
much higher and easily accessible.. Mine is different from that shown.
I have absolutely no room for my hands and tools to get to this filter
without removing much pieces.

I guess I'm stuck with the shop where they'll charge me $50 for a $14
filter and 2 hours labor at $50/hr = $150 for what would cost me a
total of $10 in my older cars.

Generally I've been pleased with the performance and reliability, but
from my experiences changing other parts, the Honda engineers'
consideration for the backyard garage consumer leaves much to be
desired.

--Joe


On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:00:23 GMT, "Caroline"
<caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Did you try to match up a new filter (that you presumably purchased) to what you
>see on the firewall?
>
>Colors might not match, but shapes and **especially fittings** should be pretty
>dead on.
>
>Here's a parts site drawing of a 91 Accord, 4 door LX manual transmission fuel
>filter and lines. Note that Item 4 is the fuel filter. Note item 6, the strap
>that goes around the filter to hold it in place.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yrtxc
>
>I am doubtful that any electrical connections attach to your Accord's fuel
>filter. I could be wrong, but none attach to mine, and I don't remember seeing
>anyone comment on such electrical connections to 91 Honda fuel filters here at
>the newsgroup.
>
>Hang in there. The first time is always the toughest.
>
>"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
>> Hey Caroline, Honda Doc: Thanks for the info and for the
>> encouragement to do it myself. One problem: I'm not even sure now that
>> I have located the filter on my car !!!
>>
>> With hood up, standing in front, at one-third the distance from edge
>> to edge of firewall left to right, I see a large black box attached
>> with 4 tubes coming out the top (splitting and going to the top of the
>> fuel injector something or other) and two electrical connections
>> going into it. It looks nothing like the PDF Caroline directed me to.
>>
>> Any further help would be deeply appreciated.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:07:04 GMT, "Caroline"
>> <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Tips:
>> >
>> >http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-214.pdf
>> >
>> >http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-209.pdf
>> >
>> >I have always changed my 1991 Civic's fuel filter (three times now) by
>myself.
>> >
>> >"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
>> >> Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
>> >> fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
>> >> filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
>> >> Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.
>




_________________________________

"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Joe-46er

Wait wait, I was wrong. It is the same as in the pix and sketch. Could
hardly see it tucked underneath the canister assembly. I disconnected
all hoses and lines but it's kinda hard to get that right hand fuel
line out of the filter top. If I pull it away too far, the metal tube
will bend and then I'm afraid I'll have a hard time threading it back
in.



On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:00:23 GMT, "Caroline"
<caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Did you try to match up a new filter (that you presumably purchased) to what you
>see on the firewall?
>
>Colors might not match, but shapes and **especially fittings** should be pretty
>dead on.
>
>Here's a parts site drawing of a 91 Accord, 4 door LX manual transmission fuel
>filter and lines. Note that Item 4 is the fuel filter. Note item 6, the strap
>that goes around the filter to hold it in place.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yrtxc
>
>I am doubtful that any electrical connections attach to your Accord's fuel
>filter. I could be wrong, but none attach to mine, and I don't remember seeing
>anyone comment on such electrical connections to 91 Honda fuel filters here at
>the newsgroup.
>
>Hang in there. The first time is always the toughest.
>
>"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
>> Hey Caroline, Honda Doc: Thanks for the info and for the
>> encouragement to do it myself. One problem: I'm not even sure now that
>> I have located the filter on my car !!!
>>
>> With hood up, standing in front, at one-third the distance from edge
>> to edge of firewall left to right, I see a large black box attached
>> with 4 tubes coming out the top (splitting and going to the top of the
>> fuel injector something or other) and two electrical connections
>> going into it. It looks nothing like the PDF Caroline directed me to.
>>
>> Any further help would be deeply appreciated.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:07:04 GMT, "Caroline"
>> <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Tips:
>> >
>> >http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-214.pdf
>> >
>> >http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/6-209.pdf
>> >
>> >I have always changed my 1991 Civic's fuel filter (three times now) by
>myself.
>> >
>> >"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
>> >> Can this be changed by the owner. The manual says that because the
>> >> fuel is under pressure that a pro shop should change it. Can a fuel
>> >> filter be THAT complicated? Anybody out there change theirs? Any tips?
>> >> Looks like it's in a very cramped location. Thanks.
>




_________________________________

"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)

Caroline

Not sure exactly what the situation is, but a few ideas: Maybe use a couple of
crow's foot wrenches? Did you remove (unbolt, etc.) as much interference as
possible?

Yes, Honda engine compartment parts can be a PITA to get at. I don't know if
it's better on larger cars. I know the Toyota pick-up truck I had years ago was
the easiest to work on of my three Japanese cars.

You might be right and you need a pro to do this. You don't want to break a fuel
line...

Good luck.

"Joe-46er" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote
> Wait wait, I was wrong. It is the same as in the pix and sketch. Could
> hardly see it tucked underneath the canister assembly. I disconnected
> all hoses and lines but it's kinda hard to get that right hand fuel
> line out of the filter top. If I pull it away too far, the metal tube
> will bend and then I'm afraid I'll have a hard time threading it back
> in.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:00:23 GMT, "Caroline"
> <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Did you try to match up a new filter (that you presumably purchased) to what
you
> >see on the firewall?
> >
> >Colors might not match, but shapes and **especially fittings** should be
pretty
> >dead on.
> >
> >Here's a parts site drawing of a 91 Accord, 4 door LX manual transmission
fuel
> >filter and lines. Note that Item 4 is the fuel filter. Note item 6, the strap
> >that goes around the filter to hold it in place.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/yrtxc
> >
> >I am doubtful that any electrical connections attach to your Accord's fuel
> >filter. I could be wrong, but none attach to mine, and I don't remember
seeing
> >anyone comment on such electrical connections to 91 Honda fuel filters here
at
> >the newsgroup.
> >
> >Hang in there. The first time is always the toughest.