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timtech 08-19-2007 06:50 AM

1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
problem, should it be vented in some way?

I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
ideas! thanks.


High Tech Misfit 08-19-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
timtech wrote:

> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>
> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
> ideas! thanks.


Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.

However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

High Tech Misfit 08-19-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
timtech wrote:

> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>
> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
> ideas! thanks.


Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.

However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

High Tech Misfit 08-19-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
timtech wrote:

> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>
> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
> ideas! thanks.


Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.

However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

jim beam 08-19-2007 10:19 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
High Tech Misfit wrote:
> timtech wrote:
>
>> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
>> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
>> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
>> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
>> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
>> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>>
>> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
>> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
>> ideas! thanks.

>
> Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.
>
> However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.


agreed.

jim beam 08-19-2007 10:19 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
High Tech Misfit wrote:
> timtech wrote:
>
>> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
>> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
>> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
>> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
>> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
>> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>>
>> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
>> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
>> ideas! thanks.

>
> Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.
>
> However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.


agreed.

jim beam 08-19-2007 10:19 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
High Tech Misfit wrote:
> timtech wrote:
>
>> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
>> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
>> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
>> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
>> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
>> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>>
>> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
>> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
>> ideas! thanks.

>
> Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.
>
> However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.


agreed.

timtech 08-19-2007 11:30 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
On Aug 19, 3:19 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> High Tech Misfit wrote:
> > timtech wrote:

>
> >> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
> >> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
> >> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
> >> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
> >> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
> >> problem, should it be vented in some way?

>
> >> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
> >> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
> >> ideas! thanks.

>
> > Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.

>
> > However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

>
> agreed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


If it was the relay wouldn't the problem manifest itself more often?
I have heard about dry solders and all sorts though...


timtech 08-19-2007 11:30 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
On Aug 19, 3:19 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> High Tech Misfit wrote:
> > timtech wrote:

>
> >> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
> >> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
> >> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
> >> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
> >> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
> >> problem, should it be vented in some way?

>
> >> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
> >> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
> >> ideas! thanks.

>
> > Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.

>
> > However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

>
> agreed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


If it was the relay wouldn't the problem manifest itself more often?
I have heard about dry solders and all sorts though...


timtech 08-19-2007 11:30 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
On Aug 19, 3:19 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> High Tech Misfit wrote:
> > timtech wrote:

>
> >> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
> >> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
> >> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
> >> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
> >> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
> >> problem, should it be vented in some way?

>
> >> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
> >> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
> >> ideas! thanks.

>
> > Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.

>
> > However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

>
> agreed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


If it was the relay wouldn't the problem manifest itself more often?
I have heard about dry solders and all sorts though...


jim beam 08-19-2007 11:39 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
timtech wrote:
> On Aug 19, 3:19 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>>> timtech wrote:
>>>> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
>>>> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
>>>> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
>>>> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
>>>> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
>>>> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>>>> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
>>>> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
>>>> ideas! thanks.
>>> Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.
>>> However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

>> agreed.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> If it was the relay wouldn't the problem manifest itself more often?
> I have heard about dry solders and all sorts though...
>


no, it's only intermittent - happens to most hondas round about this
age. if it really was a gas thank problem, you wouldn't be able to
drive 200 miles.

jim beam 08-19-2007 11:39 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
timtech wrote:
> On Aug 19, 3:19 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>>> timtech wrote:
>>>> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
>>>> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
>>>> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
>>>> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
>>>> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
>>>> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>>>> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
>>>> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
>>>> ideas! thanks.
>>> Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.
>>> However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

>> agreed.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> If it was the relay wouldn't the problem manifest itself more often?
> I have heard about dry solders and all sorts though...
>


no, it's only intermittent - happens to most hondas round about this
age. if it really was a gas thank problem, you wouldn't be able to
drive 200 miles.

jim beam 08-19-2007 11:39 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
timtech wrote:
> On Aug 19, 3:19 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>>> timtech wrote:
>>>> After I haven't used my Civic for a couple of weeks and do a short
>>>> journey of about 15 minutes, switch off and then attempt to start
>>>> about 10 minutes later it won't start until I take the fuel filler cap
>>>> off to relieve the fuel pressure - then it starts no problem. The
>>>> fuel filler cap is a not the original - I don't know if this is a
>>>> problem, should it be vented in some way?
>>>> I do 200 mile motorway journeys in the car every few months and it
>>>> always starts fine in the next few days after that...Apprieciate any
>>>> ideas! thanks.
>>> Is the replacement fuel cap OEM or aftermarket? This should be OEM.
>>> However, I think the actual problem is with the main relay.

>> agreed.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> If it was the relay wouldn't the problem manifest itself more often?
> I have heard about dry solders and all sorts though...
>


no, it's only intermittent - happens to most hondas round about this
age. if it really was a gas thank problem, you wouldn't be able to
drive 200 miles.

Sulpicia 08-23-2007 12:10 PM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This morning
it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to be battery
power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?


Sulpicia 08-23-2007 12:10 PM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This morning
it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to be battery
power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?


loewent via CarKB.com 08-23-2007 01:24 PM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
battery low.

Sulpicia wrote:
>We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
>garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This morning
>it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to be battery
>power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?


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loewent via CarKB.com 08-23-2007 01:24 PM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
battery low.

Sulpicia wrote:
>We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
>garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This morning
>it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to be battery
>power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?


--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200708/1


Sulpicia 08-30-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
On Aug 23, 1:24 pm, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote:
> battery low.
>
> Sulpicia wrote:
> >We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
> >garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This morning
> >it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to be battery
> >power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?

>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/honda-cars/200708/1


update on this: it is still reluctant to start unless we push it
backwards for about 1 car length. Then it fires right up, and starts
well for the next few hours. Then it will need another push.
It has an appointment with the garage this afternoon.


Sulpicia 08-30-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
On Aug 23, 1:24 pm, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote:
> battery low.
>
> Sulpicia wrote:
> >We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
> >garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This morning
> >it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to be battery
> >power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?

>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/honda-cars/200708/1


update on this: it is still reluctant to start unless we push it
backwards for about 1 car length. Then it fires right up, and starts
well for the next few hours. Then it will need another push.
It has an appointment with the garage this afternoon.


Jim Yanik 08-30-2007 05:25 PM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
Sulpicia <sulpiciaca@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:1188487950.996162.309810@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com:

> On Aug 23, 1:24 pm, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote:
>> battery low.
>>
>> Sulpicia wrote:
>> >We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
>> >garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This
>> >morning it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to
>> >be battery power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?

>>
>> --
>> Message posted via
>> CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/honda-cars/200708/1

>
> update on this: it is still reluctant to start unless we push it
> backwards for about 1 car length. Then it fires right up, and starts
> well for the next few hours. Then it will need another push.
> It has an appointment with the garage this afternoon.
>
>


"nothing" from the starter? No clicks?
Do the lights dim when you try to crank?

could be a bad solenoid,worn solenoid contacts,or plunger sticking/not
disengaging.
try rapping it with a mallet.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 08-30-2007 05:25 PM

Re: 1993 Civic 1.5 LSi UK starting problems
 
Sulpicia <sulpiciaca@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:1188487950.996162.309810@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com:

> On Aug 23, 1:24 pm, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote:
>> battery low.
>>
>> Sulpicia wrote:
>> >We just encountered a similar problem. Our 93 Civic has sat in the
>> >garage for over 2 weeks while we were away on holidays. This
>> >morning it would not start. The lights come on, and there seems to
>> >be battery power, but nothing from the starter. Any thoughts?

>>
>> --
>> Message posted via
>> CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/honda-cars/200708/1

>
> update on this: it is still reluctant to start unless we push it
> backwards for about 1 car length. Then it fires right up, and starts
> well for the next few hours. Then it will need another push.
> It has an appointment with the garage this afternoon.
>
>


"nothing" from the starter? No clicks?
Do the lights dim when you try to crank?

could be a bad solenoid,worn solenoid contacts,or plunger sticking/not
disengaging.
try rapping it with a mallet.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


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