1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
Hi,
I have the following problems: 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the brakes. 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift out of Park. 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks the gear shifter. 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. All fuses are fine. After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to see if it works fine. I am not sure about problem 4. I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake pedal switch and address problem 4. Thanks in advance, Murali Varadachari |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
On 11/1/03 12:59 PM, in article
5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google.com, "Murali" <varadacm@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari The brake pedal switch is literally on the brake pedal. Look for a button mounted so that it is pressed in by the brake pedal bar when the pedal is up and opens when the pedal is pushed. Either the switch has come loose and not longer engages the pedal, or the return spring on your pedal is fatigued and the pedal never actually comes all the way back up any more. Hondas use the D4 light to signal automatic transmission problems. When the light is on, the transmission is going into a fail-safe mode, most likely locked into 2nd gear. On some of them there is a way to make the D4 light flash out a trouble code. I don't know if yours is one of them, but it probably is. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
On 11/1/03 12:59 PM, in article
5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google.com, "Murali" <varadacm@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari The brake pedal switch is literally on the brake pedal. Look for a button mounted so that it is pressed in by the brake pedal bar when the pedal is up and opens when the pedal is pushed. Either the switch has come loose and not longer engages the pedal, or the return spring on your pedal is fatigued and the pedal never actually comes all the way back up any more. Hondas use the D4 light to signal automatic transmission problems. When the light is on, the transmission is going into a fail-safe mode, most likely locked into 2nd gear. On some of them there is a way to make the D4 light flash out a trouble code. I don't know if yours is one of them, but it probably is. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
On 11/1/03 12:59 PM, in article
5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google.com, "Murali" <varadacm@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari The brake pedal switch is literally on the brake pedal. Look for a button mounted so that it is pressed in by the brake pedal bar when the pedal is up and opens when the pedal is pushed. Either the switch has come loose and not longer engages the pedal, or the return spring on your pedal is fatigued and the pedal never actually comes all the way back up any more. Hondas use the D4 light to signal automatic transmission problems. When the light is on, the transmission is going into a fail-safe mode, most likely locked into 2nd gear. On some of them there is a way to make the D4 light flash out a trouble code. I don't know if yours is one of them, but it probably is. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
On 11/1/03 12:59 PM, in article
5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google.com, "Murali" <varadacm@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari The brake pedal switch is literally on the brake pedal. Look for a button mounted so that it is pressed in by the brake pedal bar when the pedal is up and opens when the pedal is pushed. Either the switch has come loose and not longer engages the pedal, or the return spring on your pedal is fatigued and the pedal never actually comes all the way back up any more. Hondas use the D4 light to signal automatic transmission problems. When the light is on, the transmission is going into a fail-safe mode, most likely locked into 2nd gear. On some of them there is a way to make the D4 light flash out a trouble code. I don't know if yours is one of them, but it probably is. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
>On 1 Nov 2003 10:59:56 -0800, varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote:
>Hi, > >I have the following problems: > >1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the >brakes. >2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to >insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift >out of Park. >3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks >the gear shifter. >4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I >drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > >All fuses are fine. > >After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due >to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to >see if it works fine. > >I am not sure about problem 4. > >I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake >pedal switch and address problem 4. > >Thanks in advance, >Murali Varadachari I just had a bad brake light switch replaced in my Honda this week at the dealer under warrantee and definitely the first three symptoms are what I had. Would you believe it happened right after I parked in front of the service dept to have some other warrantee work done and the rep came back to me to ask if I knew about why the car wouldn't shift and I said no. He said this is the right time/place to have it happen. Anyway, I think the switch is located up at the top of the brake pedal stem on the front side (I'm not 100% sure of this as I recall seeing it on a small sketch). As to the fourth symptom, I think I recall reading either in this newsgroup or a reference web site from this newsgroup that that might have to do with the transmission. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
>On 1 Nov 2003 10:59:56 -0800, varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote:
>Hi, > >I have the following problems: > >1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the >brakes. >2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to >insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift >out of Park. >3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks >the gear shifter. >4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I >drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > >All fuses are fine. > >After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due >to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to >see if it works fine. > >I am not sure about problem 4. > >I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake >pedal switch and address problem 4. > >Thanks in advance, >Murali Varadachari I just had a bad brake light switch replaced in my Honda this week at the dealer under warrantee and definitely the first three symptoms are what I had. Would you believe it happened right after I parked in front of the service dept to have some other warrantee work done and the rep came back to me to ask if I knew about why the car wouldn't shift and I said no. He said this is the right time/place to have it happen. Anyway, I think the switch is located up at the top of the brake pedal stem on the front side (I'm not 100% sure of this as I recall seeing it on a small sketch). As to the fourth symptom, I think I recall reading either in this newsgroup or a reference web site from this newsgroup that that might have to do with the transmission. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
>On 1 Nov 2003 10:59:56 -0800, varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote:
>Hi, > >I have the following problems: > >1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the >brakes. >2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to >insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift >out of Park. >3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks >the gear shifter. >4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I >drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > >All fuses are fine. > >After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due >to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to >see if it works fine. > >I am not sure about problem 4. > >I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake >pedal switch and address problem 4. > >Thanks in advance, >Murali Varadachari I just had a bad brake light switch replaced in my Honda this week at the dealer under warrantee and definitely the first three symptoms are what I had. Would you believe it happened right after I parked in front of the service dept to have some other warrantee work done and the rep came back to me to ask if I knew about why the car wouldn't shift and I said no. He said this is the right time/place to have it happen. Anyway, I think the switch is located up at the top of the brake pedal stem on the front side (I'm not 100% sure of this as I recall seeing it on a small sketch). As to the fourth symptom, I think I recall reading either in this newsgroup or a reference web site from this newsgroup that that might have to do with the transmission. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
>On 1 Nov 2003 10:59:56 -0800, varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote:
>Hi, > >I have the following problems: > >1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the >brakes. >2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to >insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift >out of Park. >3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks >the gear shifter. >4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I >drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > >All fuses are fine. > >After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due >to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to >see if it works fine. > >I am not sure about problem 4. > >I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake >pedal switch and address problem 4. > >Thanks in advance, >Murali Varadachari I just had a bad brake light switch replaced in my Honda this week at the dealer under warrantee and definitely the first three symptoms are what I had. Would you believe it happened right after I parked in front of the service dept to have some other warrantee work done and the rep came back to me to ask if I knew about why the car wouldn't shift and I said no. He said this is the right time/place to have it happen. Anyway, I think the switch is located up at the top of the brake pedal stem on the front side (I'm not 100% sure of this as I recall seeing it on a small sketch). As to the fourth symptom, I think I recall reading either in this newsgroup or a reference web site from this newsgroup that that might have to do with the transmission. |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
All:
Thanks for your responses. I am just going to take my car to the dealer. Murali varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote in message news:<5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google. com>... > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
All:
Thanks for your responses. I am just going to take my car to the dealer. Murali varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote in message news:<5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google. com>... > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
All:
Thanks for your responses. I am just going to take my car to the dealer. Murali varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote in message news:<5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google. com>... > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
All:
Thanks for your responses. I am just going to take my car to the dealer. Murali varadacm@hotmail.com (Murali) wrote in message news:<5ea66118.0311011059.2961fb93@posting.google. com>... > Hi, > > I have the following problems: > > 1. None of the 3 stop lights at the back comes on when I step on the > brakes. > 2. The shift gear is locked in Park and cannot come out. I have to > insert the ignition key into "Shift Key Release" everytime to shift > out of Park. > 3. When step on the brake pedal, there is no click sound that unlocks > the gear shifter. > 4. Now and then (not always), the D4 light on the dash blinks. If I > drive the car with D4 light blinking, the car drives incredibly slow. > > All fuses are fine. > > After reading news groups, I thought the first 3 symptoms might be due > to a bad brake pedal switch. I cannot seem to locate the switch to > see if it works fine. > > I am not sure about problem 4. > > I would greatly appreciate any leads on how I can check the brake > pedal switch and address problem 4. > > Thanks in advance, > Murali Varadachari |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
Hi,
I took the car to the dealer who wanted $178 (switch was $64 and labor $114). I decided to look in a car in the junkyard. Got the switch for $10. It took literally 10 minutes to get it off the junk car and put it in my car. Regards, Murali |
Re: 1993 Honda Accord LX Automatic - Brake pedal switch
Hi,
I took the car to the dealer who wanted $178 (switch was $64 and labor $114). I decided to look in a car in the junkyard. Got the switch for $10. It took literally 10 minutes to get it off the junk car and put it in my car. Regards, Murali |
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