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jim beam 02-12-2005 10:13 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
Fernando Olea wrote:
> yes that would be the answer man, the valves mistiming is fu.... ovious.
> I heard the valves working, but the car is hardly getting speed, after a
> little of time the car is taking more and more speed but the sounds of the
> valves are notorious, i dont have any smoke comming out from behind or bad
> gas economy.
> How can i set the right timming???


if your d15b2 is the same as my 89's d15b2, then the crankshaft pulley
has to be at zero degrees & the camshaft pulley has to be set so the two
grooves are dead parallel to the head top and the word "up" is at the
top of the pulley wheel. when retensioning the belt, remove the spark
plugs, then torque the pulley bolt enough so you can rotate the crank
anti-clockwise, like you're trying to undo the belt. make sure the belt
tensioner spring is free to do its job, then tighten the tensioner.
rotate the crank half a dozen times to be sure the belt is set right,
recheck the timing marks, then retension the belt again just to be sure.
note: /never/ rotate the crank clockwise.

check tegger's faq site - think there's a link to some of the service
manuals that you can download.

>
>
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> escribió en el mensaje
> news:1108190162.a1dd2c28c82b167efe64b75219cf0e7e@t eranews...
>
>>Fernando Olea wrote:
>>
>>>I am having problems with the engine. after changing the timing belt,
>>>distribuitor cap and rotor, wires, the car sound like acelerating but is
>>>not doing a and some time when is a little cold do some bounces like
>>>the pimp mobile.
>>>i Neeed HELLLP

>>
>>it's probably the timing belt not set right. mistiming of the valves
>>drives like that. re-check your work.
>>

>
>
>



jim beam 02-12-2005 10:13 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
Fernando Olea wrote:
> yes that would be the answer man, the valves mistiming is fu.... ovious.
> I heard the valves working, but the car is hardly getting speed, after a
> little of time the car is taking more and more speed but the sounds of the
> valves are notorious, i dont have any smoke comming out from behind or bad
> gas economy.
> How can i set the right timming???


if your d15b2 is the same as my 89's d15b2, then the crankshaft pulley
has to be at zero degrees & the camshaft pulley has to be set so the two
grooves are dead parallel to the head top and the word "up" is at the
top of the pulley wheel. when retensioning the belt, remove the spark
plugs, then torque the pulley bolt enough so you can rotate the crank
anti-clockwise, like you're trying to undo the belt. make sure the belt
tensioner spring is free to do its job, then tighten the tensioner.
rotate the crank half a dozen times to be sure the belt is set right,
recheck the timing marks, then retension the belt again just to be sure.
note: /never/ rotate the crank clockwise.

check tegger's faq site - think there's a link to some of the service
manuals that you can download.

>
>
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> escribió en el mensaje
> news:1108190162.a1dd2c28c82b167efe64b75219cf0e7e@t eranews...
>
>>Fernando Olea wrote:
>>
>>>I am having problems with the engine. after changing the timing belt,
>>>distribuitor cap and rotor, wires, the car sound like acelerating but is
>>>not doing a and some time when is a little cold do some bounces like
>>>the pimp mobile.
>>>i Neeed HELLLP

>>
>>it's probably the timing belt not set right. mistiming of the valves
>>drives like that. re-check your work.
>>

>
>
>



TeGGer® 02-13-2005 09:40 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:1108264400.9c32bd79f4233cd364362a9c5afba2a6@t eranews:


> note: /never/ rotate the crank clockwise.



You can move it clockwise a tiny bit, such as when you're trying to get the
valves just-so in order to adjust them, but rotate it any further than that
and you run the risk of placing all the slack on the long straight run from
crank to cam, and the crank may skip a tooth.

Honda's D17 apparently is the ONLY Honda engine that turns the OTHER way,
so the danger comes when turning the crank COUNTER-clockwise.


>
> check tegger's faq site - think there's a link to some of the service
> manuals that you can download.



The link I think you're thinking of is:
http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

It's added to the FAQ now under the "General" category.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGer® 02-13-2005 09:40 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:1108264400.9c32bd79f4233cd364362a9c5afba2a6@t eranews:


> note: /never/ rotate the crank clockwise.



You can move it clockwise a tiny bit, such as when you're trying to get the
valves just-so in order to adjust them, but rotate it any further than that
and you run the risk of placing all the slack on the long straight run from
crank to cam, and the crank may skip a tooth.

Honda's D17 apparently is the ONLY Honda engine that turns the OTHER way,
so the danger comes when turning the crank COUNTER-clockwise.


>
> check tegger's faq site - think there's a link to some of the service
> manuals that you can download.



The link I think you're thinking of is:
http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

It's added to the FAQ now under the "General" category.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

chip 02-13-2005 11:35 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
On 14 Feb 2005 02:40:49 GMT, "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:

>jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
>news:1108264400.9c32bd79f4233cd364362a9c5afba2a6@ teranews:
>
>
>> note: /never/ rotate the crank clockwise.

>
>
>You can move it clockwise a tiny bit, such as when you're trying to get the
>valves just-so in order to adjust them, but rotate it any further than that
>and you run the risk of placing all the slack on the long straight run from
>crank to cam, and the crank may skip a tooth.
>
>Honda's D17 apparently is the ONLY Honda engine that turns the OTHER way,
>so the danger comes when turning the crank COUNTER-clockwise.
>
>
>>
>> check tegger's faq site - think there's a link to some of the service
>> manuals that you can download.

>
>
>The link I think you're thinking of is:
>http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/
>
>It's added to the FAQ now under the "General" category.



rotate it whichever way you have to. if it skips a tooth it's because
you have other problems with the tensioner. when you shut off the car,
you can bet the engine rotates a few degrees backward.

you have the timing belt a tooth retarded, you can pull the
upper cover, slide the belt off rotate the cam and slide the belt back
on. i've done it for a lot of people who have had this problem.
Chip

chip 02-13-2005 11:35 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
On 14 Feb 2005 02:40:49 GMT, "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:

>jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
>news:1108264400.9c32bd79f4233cd364362a9c5afba2a6@ teranews:
>
>
>> note: /never/ rotate the crank clockwise.

>
>
>You can move it clockwise a tiny bit, such as when you're trying to get the
>valves just-so in order to adjust them, but rotate it any further than that
>and you run the risk of placing all the slack on the long straight run from
>crank to cam, and the crank may skip a tooth.
>
>Honda's D17 apparently is the ONLY Honda engine that turns the OTHER way,
>so the danger comes when turning the crank COUNTER-clockwise.
>
>
>>
>> check tegger's faq site - think there's a link to some of the service
>> manuals that you can download.

>
>
>The link I think you're thinking of is:
>http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/
>
>It's added to the FAQ now under the "General" category.



rotate it whichever way you have to. if it skips a tooth it's because
you have other problems with the tensioner. when you shut off the car,
you can bet the engine rotates a few degrees backward.

you have the timing belt a tooth retarded, you can pull the
upper cover, slide the belt off rotate the cam and slide the belt back
on. i've done it for a lot of people who have had this problem.
Chip

TeGGer® 02-14-2005 10:32 AM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
chip <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in
news:2fa01154ad0gn3d862jl9ksgp94ibu3vrs@4ax.com:


>
>
> rotate it whichever way you have to. if it skips a tooth it's because
> you have other problems with the tensioner.



I've seen some pretty loose belts, some so loose they make black dust on
the underside of the cam cover.


> when you shut off the car,
> you can bet the engine rotates a few degrees backward.



Yeah, that makes sense. Don't know about Hondas, but when Toyotas strip the
teeth off their belts, it tends to happen when the engine is shut down and
kicks back a bit.

Another myth bites the dust?



>
> you have the timing belt a tooth retarded, you can pull the
> upper cover, slide the belt off rotate the cam and slide the belt back
> on. i've done it for a lot of people who have had this problem.
>



A bit harder to do on the DOHCs?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGer® 02-14-2005 10:32 AM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
chip <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in
news:2fa01154ad0gn3d862jl9ksgp94ibu3vrs@4ax.com:


>
>
> rotate it whichever way you have to. if it skips a tooth it's because
> you have other problems with the tensioner.



I've seen some pretty loose belts, some so loose they make black dust on
the underside of the cam cover.


> when you shut off the car,
> you can bet the engine rotates a few degrees backward.



Yeah, that makes sense. Don't know about Hondas, but when Toyotas strip the
teeth off their belts, it tends to happen when the engine is shut down and
kicks back a bit.

Another myth bites the dust?



>
> you have the timing belt a tooth retarded, you can pull the
> upper cover, slide the belt off rotate the cam and slide the belt back
> on. i've done it for a lot of people who have had this problem.
>



A bit harder to do on the DOHCs?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Fernando Olea 02-15-2005 12:03 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
Guys i need a manual for the d15b2 , i downloaded some manuals but i did not
found my motor.
i am going out of my head with this crapy problem
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> escribió en el mensaje
news:Xns95FD6B9364144teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> chip <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in
> news:2fa01154ad0gn3d862jl9ksgp94ibu3vrs@4ax.com:
>
>
>>
>>
>> rotate it whichever way you have to. if it skips a tooth it's because
>> you have other problems with the tensioner.

>
>
> I've seen some pretty loose belts, some so loose they make black dust on
> the underside of the cam cover.
>
>
>> when you shut off the car,
>> you can bet the engine rotates a few degrees backward.

>
>
> Yeah, that makes sense. Don't know about Hondas, but when Toyotas strip
> the
> teeth off their belts, it tends to happen when the engine is shut down and
> kicks back a bit.
>
> Another myth bites the dust?
>
>
>
>>
>> you have the timing belt a tooth retarded, you can pull the
>> upper cover, slide the belt off rotate the cam and slide the belt back
>> on. i've done it for a lot of people who have had this problem.
>>

>
>
> A bit harder to do on the DOHCs?
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




Fernando Olea 02-15-2005 12:03 PM

Re: 1994 d15b2 civic loosing power and doing bounces
 
Guys i need a manual for the d15b2 , i downloaded some manuals but i did not
found my motor.
i am going out of my head with this crapy problem
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> escribió en el mensaje
news:Xns95FD6B9364144teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> chip <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in
> news:2fa01154ad0gn3d862jl9ksgp94ibu3vrs@4ax.com:
>
>
>>
>>
>> rotate it whichever way you have to. if it skips a tooth it's because
>> you have other problems with the tensioner.

>
>
> I've seen some pretty loose belts, some so loose they make black dust on
> the underside of the cam cover.
>
>
>> when you shut off the car,
>> you can bet the engine rotates a few degrees backward.

>
>
> Yeah, that makes sense. Don't know about Hondas, but when Toyotas strip
> the
> teeth off their belts, it tends to happen when the engine is shut down and
> kicks back a bit.
>
> Another myth bites the dust?
>
>
>
>>
>> you have the timing belt a tooth retarded, you can pull the
>> upper cover, slide the belt off rotate the cam and slide the belt back
>> on. i've done it for a lot of people who have had this problem.
>>

>
>
> A bit harder to do on the DOHCs?
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/





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