1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I was
driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and it
measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm the
compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low pressure
side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: 1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

Mario Perez via CarKB.com wrote:
> I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
> miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
> is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I was
> driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
> compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and it
> measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
> refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
> refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
> almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm the
> compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
> checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low pressure
> side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
> and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
> is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
> the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
> it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-------------------------------

Don't all honda AC units turn on and off automatically to prevent icing
? I know that household ones do. :-)

'Curly'

Re: 1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

Mario Perez via CarKB.com wrote:
> I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
> miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
> is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I was
> driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
> compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and it
> measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
> refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
> refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
> almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm the
> compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
> checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low pressure
> side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
> and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
> is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
> the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
> it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-------------------------------

Don't all honda AC units turn on and off automatically to prevent icing
? I know that household ones do. :-)

'Curly'

Re: 1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

motsco_ _ wrote:
>
> Mario Perez via CarKB.com wrote:
> > I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
> > miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
> > is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I was
> > driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
> > compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and it
> > measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
> > refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
> > refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
> > almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm the
> > compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
> > checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low pressure
> > side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
> > and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
> > is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
> > the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
> > it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> -------------------------------
>
> Don't all honda AC units turn on and off automatically to prevent icing
> ? I know that household ones do. :-)
>
> 'Curly'

Some cars have variable-ratio compressors (and a thermo couple at
evaporator) and regulate cooling that way, but most have a thermoswitch
at the evaporator that controls the compressor clutch. The '94 Civic has
the evaporator thermo switch, and it is perfectly normal for the A/C
compressor to cycle on and off. The cooler the weather, the shorter it
stays on before cycling off again. If you are driving a 6 liter V8, you
won't notice the cycling, but in a 1.6 liter I4 you certainly will!

The A/C in my '94 Civic is no arctic blast, but it is more than adequate
for Northern California summers. My Civic (R-134a) takes longer to cool
down after sitting in the sun than my friend's late 80's VW (R-12) but
the Civic has no problems maintaining a comfortable temperature even on
100° days.

Re: 1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

motsco_ _ wrote:
>
> Mario Perez via CarKB.com wrote:
> > I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
> > miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
> > is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I was
> > driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
> > compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and it
> > measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
> > refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
> > refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
> > almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm the
> > compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
> > checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low pressure
> > side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
> > and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
> > is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
> > the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
> > it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> -------------------------------
>
> Don't all honda AC units turn on and off automatically to prevent icing
> ? I know that household ones do. :-)
>
> 'Curly'

Some cars have variable-ratio compressors (and a thermo couple at
evaporator) and regulate cooling that way, but most have a thermoswitch
at the evaporator that controls the compressor clutch. The '94 Civic has
the evaporator thermo switch, and it is perfectly normal for the A/C
compressor to cycle on and off. The cooler the weather, the shorter it
stays on before cycling off again. If you are driving a 6 liter V8, you
won't notice the cycling, but in a 1.6 liter I4 you certainly will!

The A/C in my '94 Civic is no arctic blast, but it is more than adequate
for Northern California summers. My Civic (R-134a) takes longer to cool
down after sitting in the sun than my friend's late 80's VW (R-12) but
the Civic has no problems maintaining a comfortable temperature even on
100° days.

Re: 1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

"Mario Perez via CarKB.com" <forum@nospam.CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:17b4b7daee8d459588681e69a62a5591@CarKB.com...
>I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
> miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
> is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I
> was
> driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
> compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and
> it
> measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
> refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
> refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
> almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm
> the
> compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
> checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low
> pressure
> side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
> and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
> is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
> the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
> it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

As others have noted, some cycling is normal. It should follow the fan
setting: at low fan speeds it should be on a couple seconds and off most of
a minute; at high fan settings it should be on for several seconds and shut
off for several seconds, fewer in warmer weather with the windows open.

This would be a good time to have the A/C professionally serviced. You can
be sure it is overcharged now, after adding a can blindly and seeing it
vent. Although pressure readings will tell you if you are drastically low,
the experts say that there is no reliable way to set the level of R134a
except by evacuating and adding the proper amount by weight. I don't know
why this should be, but I see none of the R134a systems have sight glasses
either. Oh, well - that was a fairly crude way of filling R12 systems
anyway.

Mike

Re: 1994 Honda Civic EX A/C compressor cycles on and off
 

"Mario Perez via CarKB.com" <forum@nospam.CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:17b4b7daee8d459588681e69a62a5591@CarKB.com...
>I recently purchased a 1994 honda civic ex with manual trans. and 112,000
> miles. The car is absolutely in mint condition inside and out. My problem
> is I would notice a slight hesitation occasionally in the motor while I
> was
> driving. When I lifted the hood to inspect I noticed it was the a/c
> compressor cycling on and off. My father in law checked the pressure and
> it
> measured as if it was at the appropriate range. He mentioned if the
> refrigerant is low the sensor disactivates the compressor. He added r134a
> refrigerant and pressure seemed to remain the same after going through
> almost the full bottle. After accelerating the engine to about 2500 rpm
> the
> compressor purged a blast of refrigerant through the relief valve. We
> checked the pressure and it was still in the same place(on the low
> pressure
> side). It still is cycling on and off. Could it be that it is overfilled
> and the compressor in cycling not because it is low on gas but because it
> is overheating or something? I noticed the problem alleviated a bit when
> the compressure purges the refrigerant. It also seems to not be cooling as
> it should. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

As others have noted, some cycling is normal. It should follow the fan
setting: at low fan speeds it should be on a couple seconds and off most of
a minute; at high fan settings it should be on for several seconds and shut
off for several seconds, fewer in warmer weather with the windows open.

This would be a good time to have the A/C professionally serviced. You can
be sure it is overcharged now, after adding a can blindly and seeing it
vent. Although pressure readings will tell you if you are drastically low,
the experts say that there is no reliable way to set the level of R134a
except by evacuating and adding the proper amount by weight. I don't know
why this should be, but I see none of the R134a systems have sight glasses
either. Oh, well - that was a fairly crude way of filling R12 systems
anyway.

Mike