1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
a bad valve adjustment?

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

arock wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?

-----------------------------------------


Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
a tooth or two.

Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
..

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves

I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
valve. :-(

'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

arock wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?

-----------------------------------------


Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
a tooth or two.

Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
..

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves

I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
valve. :-(

'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

arock wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?

-----------------------------------------


Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
a tooth or two.

Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
..

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves

I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
valve. :-(

'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

arock wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?

-----------------------------------------


Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
a tooth or two.

Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
..

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves

I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
valve. :-(

'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

"arock" <arockwel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151953432.147546.141250@b68g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?
>
Normally a valve adjustment itself doesn't bring about those problems - it
sounds like the timing belt has slipped. First and most critical question -
is this the original timing belt? If the answer is "yes" you are driving on
borrowed time.

If the belt was changed a few years ago when it was due, the danger of a
flubbed valve adjustment is that the valves may have been set too "tight."
That often leads to burned valves. "Loose" valves make a lot of clatter but
are not a risk of damage.

If the timing belt jumped because the engine was turned backward (clockwise)
during the valve adjustment the shop owes it to you to make it right, even
if (*especially* if) valve damage has resulted. If the belt is overdue for
replacement - that is, if it is the original - you may have some bargaining
to do. They can't be wholly responsible for failure of a 12 year old belt.

Mike

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

"arock" <arockwel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151953432.147546.141250@b68g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?
>
Normally a valve adjustment itself doesn't bring about those problems - it
sounds like the timing belt has slipped. First and most critical question -
is this the original timing belt? If the answer is "yes" you are driving on
borrowed time.

If the belt was changed a few years ago when it was due, the danger of a
flubbed valve adjustment is that the valves may have been set too "tight."
That often leads to burned valves. "Loose" valves make a lot of clatter but
are not a risk of damage.

If the timing belt jumped because the engine was turned backward (clockwise)
during the valve adjustment the shop owes it to you to make it right, even
if (*especially* if) valve damage has resulted. If the belt is overdue for
replacement - that is, if it is the original - you may have some bargaining
to do. They can't be wholly responsible for failure of a 12 year old belt.

Mike

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

"arock" <arockwel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151953432.147546.141250@b68g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?
>
Normally a valve adjustment itself doesn't bring about those problems - it
sounds like the timing belt has slipped. First and most critical question -
is this the original timing belt? If the answer is "yes" you are driving on
borrowed time.

If the belt was changed a few years ago when it was due, the danger of a
flubbed valve adjustment is that the valves may have been set too "tight."
That often leads to burned valves. "Loose" valves make a lot of clatter but
are not a risk of damage.

If the timing belt jumped because the engine was turned backward (clockwise)
during the valve adjustment the shop owes it to you to make it right, even
if (*especially* if) valve damage has resulted. If the belt is overdue for
replacement - that is, if it is the original - you may have some bargaining
to do. They can't be wholly responsible for failure of a 12 year old belt.

Mike

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

"arock" <arockwel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151953432.147546.141250@b68g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> a bad valve adjustment?
>
Normally a valve adjustment itself doesn't bring about those problems - it
sounds like the timing belt has slipped. First and most critical question -
is this the original timing belt? If the answer is "yes" you are driving on
borrowed time.

If the belt was changed a few years ago when it was due, the danger of a
flubbed valve adjustment is that the valves may have been set too "tight."
That often leads to burned valves. "Loose" valves make a lot of clatter but
are not a risk of damage.

If the timing belt jumped because the engine was turned backward (clockwise)
during the valve adjustment the shop owes it to you to make it right, even
if (*especially* if) valve damage has resulted. If the belt is overdue for
replacement - that is, if it is the original - you may have some bargaining
to do. They can't be wholly responsible for failure of a 12 year old belt.

Mike

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

It was a local Honda dealership. So, if I suggest to them that they
"jumped my timing belt a tooth or two" they'll know what I'm talking
about? If I did burn a valve because of their bad adjustment wouldn't
it be their responsibility?


'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> arock wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> > adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> > since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> > and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> > adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> > a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> > should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> > a bad valve adjustment?
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
> a tooth or two.
>
> Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
> they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
> .
>
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
>
> I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
> valve. :-(
>
> 'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

It was a local Honda dealership. So, if I suggest to them that they
"jumped my timing belt a tooth or two" they'll know what I'm talking
about? If I did burn a valve because of their bad adjustment wouldn't
it be their responsibility?


'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> arock wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> > adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> > since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> > and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> > adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> > a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> > should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> > a bad valve adjustment?
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
> a tooth or two.
>
> Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
> they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
> .
>
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
>
> I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
> valve. :-(
>
> 'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

It was a local Honda dealership. So, if I suggest to them that they
"jumped my timing belt a tooth or two" they'll know what I'm talking
about? If I did burn a valve because of their bad adjustment wouldn't
it be their responsibility?


'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> arock wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> > adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> > since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> > and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> > adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> > a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> > should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> > a bad valve adjustment?
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
> a tooth or two.
>
> Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
> they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
> .
>
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
>
> I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
> valve. :-(
>
> 'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

It was a local Honda dealership. So, if I suggest to them that they
"jumped my timing belt a tooth or two" they'll know what I'm talking
about? If I did burn a valve because of their bad adjustment wouldn't
it be their responsibility?


'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> arock wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> > adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> > since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> > and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> > adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> > a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> > should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> > a bad valve adjustment?
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> Who did the adjustment? It sounds like they also jumped your timing belt
> a tooth or two.
>
> Same engine as the first generation CR-V. You want to be sure that (when
> they redo it) they set the valves to the 'loose' side of the specs. . .
> .
>
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
> http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=burnt+valves
>
> I hope you didn't drive it fast or far like it is. You'll smoke a
> valve. :-(
>
> 'Curly'

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

Mike,

The timing belt was replaced at around 95k. So, it is not the original
belt.


Michael Pardee wrote:
> "arock" <arockwel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1151953432.147546.141250@b68g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> > adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> > since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> > and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> > adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> > a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> > should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> > a bad valve adjustment?
> >
> Normally a valve adjustment itself doesn't bring about those problems - it
> sounds like the timing belt has slipped. First and most critical question -
> is this the original timing belt? If the answer is "yes" you are driving on
> borrowed time.
>
> If the belt was changed a few years ago when it was due, the danger of a
> flubbed valve adjustment is that the valves may have been set too "tight."
> That often leads to burned valves. "Loose" valves make a lot of clatter but
> are not a risk of damage.
>
> If the timing belt jumped because the engine was turned backward (clockwise)
> during the valve adjustment the shop owes it to you to make it right, even
> if (*especially* if) valve damage has resulted. If the belt is overdue for
> replacement - that is, if it is the original - you may have some bargaining
> to do. They can't be wholly responsible for failure of a 12 year old belt.
>
> Mike

Re: 1994 Integra: Bad Valve Adjustment?
 

Mike,

The timing belt was replaced at around 95k. So, it is not the original
belt.


Michael Pardee wrote:
> "arock" <arockwel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1151953432.147546.141250@b68g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >I have a 1994 Acura Integra LS automatic with 165k miles. I had a valve
> > adjustment done on the car. Immediately after the work was done and
> > since that time the car has had poor gas mileage, a very rough idle,
> > and loss of power. I had abolutely none of those problems before the
> > adjustment. Before I take it back into the shop I would like to know if
> > a bad valve adjustment could be the source of these problems and how it
> > should be remedied. Also, are there any long-term risks associated with
> > a bad valve adjustment?
> >
> Normally a valve adjustment itself doesn't bring about those problems - it
> sounds like the timing belt has slipped. First and most critical question -
> is this the original timing belt? If the answer is "yes" you are driving on
> borrowed time.
>
> If the belt was changed a few years ago when it was due, the danger of a
> flubbed valve adjustment is that the valves may have been set too "tight."
> That often leads to burned valves. "Loose" valves make a lot of clatter but
> are not a risk of damage.
>
> If the timing belt jumped because the engine was turned backward (clockwise)
> during the valve adjustment the shop owes it to you to make it right, even
> if (*especially* if) valve damage has resulted. If the belt is overdue for
> replacement - that is, if it is the original - you may have some bargaining
> to do. They can't be wholly responsible for failure of a 12 year old belt.
>
> Mike