1995 Accord ABS light
Hello!
Just purchased a 1995 Honda Accord w/67kmi original on it. The car is beautiful, runs great...but I seem to be running into the '1990's Honda ABS issue' that Ive read so much about. When I first start the car, the ABS is off. However, after about 20-30 minutes of highway driving, it will come on. If I cycle the ignition while driving, it will stay off for another 20 - 30 minutes or so and then come on again. Id like to be able to check the diagnostics light to see what code this unit is sending out, but for all the pages Ive read there isnt a clear description on how to do it. -Where is the ABS diagnostics socket located? -What is the procedure to check the error codes? (Ive heard of jumpering pins and checking a flashing light - which pins and which light??:)) There was supposedly a tech2tech.com document on this, but that page is no longer active. Ive read about the plugs leaking on the pump/modulator assembly, and there is a documented procedure for tightening them. Anyone have a link to this? If this is the ABS pump unit, I see that they are $1000+ new. Thankfully, Ive found a place that sells them used & tested for about $175 a unit: www.discoveryautoparts.com At least I can just the ABS down and brake as normal, but Id really like all the features on the car to work!! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Chris |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
woops I meant SHUT the ABS down...:)
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Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
woops I meant SHUT the ABS down...:)
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Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
I checked a couple more things today:
When I first start the car, the ABS pump runs for ~10 seconds and shuts down. It sounds healthy to me (like a small air compressor). I had filled the ABS resevoir with fluid, and after 260 miles of driving it was down to halfway between MIN and MAX. I dont hear the pump running when the ABS light kicks on, all I hear is a slight 'click' comming from the passenger side kick panel (Im assuming the ECU is there). I dont see any signs of leakage around the pump/modulator unit. Perhaps I just need to bleed the system? I think its the place to start anyway, after I get the fault codes off the ECU. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
I checked a couple more things today:
When I first start the car, the ABS pump runs for ~10 seconds and shuts down. It sounds healthy to me (like a small air compressor). I had filled the ABS resevoir with fluid, and after 260 miles of driving it was down to halfway between MIN and MAX. I dont hear the pump running when the ABS light kicks on, all I hear is a slight 'click' comming from the passenger side kick panel (Im assuming the ECU is there). I dont see any signs of leakage around the pump/modulator unit. Perhaps I just need to bleed the system? I think its the place to start anyway, after I get the fault codes off the ECU. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Awake1077 wrote:
> I checked a couple more things today: > > When I first start the car, the ABS pump runs for ~10 seconds and shuts > down. It sounds healthy to me (like a small air compressor). > > I had filled the ABS resevoir with fluid, and after 260 miles of > driving it was down to halfway between MIN and MAX. > > I dont hear the pump running when the ABS light kicks on, all I hear is > a slight 'click' comming from the passenger side kick panel (Im > assuming the ECU is there). > > I dont see any signs of leakage around the pump/modulator unit. > > Perhaps I just need to bleed the system? I think its the place to start > anyway, after I get the fault codes off the ECU. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! > ---------------------------- If there's grease / dirt / crud on the tone rings, you'll get ABS light only after vehicle starts moving. Clean them carefully. Odyclub has lots of posts . . same system. 'Curly' |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Awake1077 wrote:
> I checked a couple more things today: > > When I first start the car, the ABS pump runs for ~10 seconds and shuts > down. It sounds healthy to me (like a small air compressor). > > I had filled the ABS resevoir with fluid, and after 260 miles of > driving it was down to halfway between MIN and MAX. > > I dont hear the pump running when the ABS light kicks on, all I hear is > a slight 'click' comming from the passenger side kick panel (Im > assuming the ECU is there). > > I dont see any signs of leakage around the pump/modulator unit. > > Perhaps I just need to bleed the system? I think its the place to start > anyway, after I get the fault codes off the ECU. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! > ---------------------------- If there's grease / dirt / crud on the tone rings, you'll get ABS light only after vehicle starts moving. Clean them carefully. Odyclub has lots of posts . . same system. 'Curly' |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Thanks for the reply Curly. What's a tone ring? I just find in
peculiar that the ABS light seems to come on at nearly the exact time, every time. It dosent seem to be pressure related, when I cycle the ignition it will stay off for the same amount of time... |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Thanks for the reply Curly. What's a tone ring? I just find in
peculiar that the ABS light seems to come on at nearly the exact time, every time. It dosent seem to be pressure related, when I cycle the ignition it will stay off for the same amount of time... |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Awake1077 wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Curly. What's a tone ring? I just find in > peculiar that the ABS light seems to come on at nearly the exact time, > every time. It dosent seem to be pressure related, when I cycle the > ignition it will stay off for the same amount of time... > --------------------------- Tone ring is a generic term for the ribbed steel ring on the wheel hubs that generates the AC signal that the ABS computer uses to figure out how fast each wheel is spinning. You need to determine if your ABS light stays off if the vehicle doesn't move. Start it, sit on driveway. Simple 'curly' |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Awake1077 wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Curly. What's a tone ring? I just find in > peculiar that the ABS light seems to come on at nearly the exact time, > every time. It dosent seem to be pressure related, when I cycle the > ignition it will stay off for the same amount of time... > --------------------------- Tone ring is a generic term for the ribbed steel ring on the wheel hubs that generates the AC signal that the ABS computer uses to figure out how fast each wheel is spinning. You need to determine if your ABS light stays off if the vehicle doesn't move. Start it, sit on driveway. Simple 'curly' |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Thanks for the info, Ill check that tonight and post back with my
findings. |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
Thanks for the info, Ill check that tonight and post back with my
findings. |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
OK, so when I got home I let her run and, within the same 20minute time
span, the ABS light kicked on. The car did not move at all. I opened the hood so I could listen for the ABS pump, and every few minutes it would run for about 2 seconds. Im kind of confused! If this were a pressure issue, wouldnt the pump run for at least 30-45 seconds? Thanks, Chris |
Re: 1995 Accord ABS light
OK, so when I got home I let her run and, within the same 20minute time
span, the ABS light kicked on. The car did not move at all. I opened the hood so I could listen for the ABS pump, and every few minutes it would run for about 2 seconds. Im kind of confused! If this were a pressure issue, wouldnt the pump run for at least 30-45 seconds? Thanks, Chris |
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