1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
"junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
different?

runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
>
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

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For starters, your PCV is stuck open, (spring might be rusted through)
so it's allowing your oil to be burned invisibly. That can be hard on
the CAT, so you should replace the PCV with an OEM one ASAP.

'Curly'

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
>
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

--------------------------------------

For starters, your PCV is stuck open, (spring might be rusted through)
so it's allowing your oil to be burned invisibly. That can be hard on
the CAT, so you should replace the PCV with an OEM one ASAP.

'Curly'

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
>
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

--------------------------------------

For starters, your PCV is stuck open, (spring might be rusted through)
so it's allowing your oil to be burned invisibly. That can be hard on
the CAT, so you should replace the PCV with an OEM one ASAP.

'Curly'

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic
>
crud in the oil comes from combustion problems or ingestion of
grit/increased wear - once you mention the k&n intake, all sympathy
disappears. look into the cost of a replacement jdm engine and
refitting the stock air filtration system.

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic
>
crud in the oil comes from combustion problems or ingestion of
grit/increased wear - once you mention the k&n intake, all sympathy
disappears. look into the cost of a replacement jdm engine and
refitting the stock air filtration system.

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic
>
crud in the oil comes from combustion problems or ingestion of
grit/increased wear - once you mention the k&n intake, all sympathy
disappears. look into the cost of a replacement jdm engine and
refitting the stock air filtration system.

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
>
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

If a new PVC doesn't help, then you may have to shoot it. Two quarts of oil
a week without any oil leaks is beyond excessive. OK, you don't have to
shoot it, it could need new rings and get rid of the CAI replacing it with
the stock intake. A wet vs. dry compression test might help to pin point a
problem with the rings. By the way, driving around with a screeching water
pump isn't such a great idea. A failed water pump will stop the engine due
to bent valves. However, then you'll be able to run much faster than your
Civic.

Eric

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
>
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

If a new PVC doesn't help, then you may have to shoot it. Two quarts of oil
a week without any oil leaks is beyond excessive. OK, you don't have to
shoot it, it could need new rings and get rid of the CAI replacing it with
the stock intake. A wet vs. dry compression test might help to pin point a
problem with the rings. By the way, driving around with a screeching water
pump isn't such a great idea. A failed water pump will stop the engine due
to bent valves. However, then you'll be able to run much faster than your
Civic.

Eric

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

runsrealfast wrote:
>
> I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> different?
>
> runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic

If a new PVC doesn't help, then you may have to shoot it. Two quarts of oil
a week without any oil leaks is beyond excessive. OK, you don't have to
shoot it, it could need new rings and get rid of the CAI replacing it with
the stock intake. A wet vs. dry compression test might help to pin point a
problem with the rings. By the way, driving around with a screeching water
pump isn't such a great idea. A failed water pump will stop the engine due
to bent valves. However, then you'll be able to run much faster than your
Civic.

Eric

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:V_-
dncjl8IMStRPZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> once you mention the k&n intake, all sympathy
> disappears.


Ditto.

And hey, have a look at this...
http://home.usadatanet.net/%7Ejbploc...011/SPICER.htm



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Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:V_-
dncjl8IMStRPZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> once you mention the k&n intake, all sympathy
> disappears.


Ditto.

And hey, have a look at this...
http://home.usadatanet.net/%7Ejbploc...011/SPICER.htm



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:V_-
dncjl8IMStRPZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> once you mention the k&n intake, all sympathy
> disappears.


Ditto.

And hey, have a look at this...
http://home.usadatanet.net/%7Ejbploc...011/SPICER.htm



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

Eric wrote:
> runsrealfast wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> > every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> > it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> > started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> > been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> > or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> > have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> > will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> > Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> > "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> > different?
> >
> > runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic
>
> If a new PVC doesn't help, then you may have to shoot it. Two quarts of oil
> a week without any oil leaks is beyond excessive. OK, you don't have to
> shoot it, it could need new rings and get rid of the CAI replacing it with
> the stock intake. A wet vs. dry compression test might help to pin point a
> problem with the rings. By the way, driving around with a screeching water
> pump isn't such a great idea. A failed water pump will stop the engine due
> to bent valves. However, then you'll be able to run much faster than your
> Civic.
>
> Eric


I'm not losing quite that much oil I lost 2 quarts about 1000 miles
before I was due for a oil change anyway. But I have been thinking of
getting the stock equipment back into the car and the timeing
belt/water pump is on the to-do-list but my honey-do-list never
shortens so i have not had the chance yet

Re: 1997 civic very dirty oil very quickly
 

Eric wrote:
> runsrealfast wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1997 civic with 109k on it. I drive 60 miles (38 on I-15)
> > every day to work (120 miles round trip). Everytime I change the oil in
> > it about a week later the oil is down 2 quarts and its real dirty. This
> > started about a year ago. I have just been replacing the oil that has
> > been lost. The car has no loss of performance (that I can feel, power
> > or mileage) but does make a screaching noise during acceleration. I
> > have yet to change the timing belt and when that is done the water pump
> > will get changed, which I have been told will fix the screaching noise.
> > Anyway I was worried that my K&N cold air intake was letting to much
> > "junk" into my engine. Is this possible, or is it something completely
> > different?
> >
> > runsrealfast <--i run fast not my car, after all its a civic
>
> If a new PVC doesn't help, then you may have to shoot it. Two quarts of oil
> a week without any oil leaks is beyond excessive. OK, you don't have to
> shoot it, it could need new rings and get rid of the CAI replacing it with
> the stock intake. A wet vs. dry compression test might help to pin point a
> problem with the rings. By the way, driving around with a screeching water
> pump isn't such a great idea. A failed water pump will stop the engine due
> to bent valves. However, then you'll be able to run much faster than your
> Civic.
>
> Eric


I'm not losing quite that much oil I lost 2 quarts about 1000 miles
before I was due for a oil change anyway. But I have been thinking of
getting the stock equipment back into the car and the timeing
belt/water pump is on the to-do-list but my honey-do-list never
shortens so i have not had the chance yet