2000 Odyssey won't start
 

I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.

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- Zilla
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Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>

could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped flywheel
teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is sticking in cold
weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the flywheel.

"teeth grinding" is NOT good.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>

could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped flywheel
teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is sticking in cold
weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the flywheel.

"teeth grinding" is NOT good.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
>
>> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
>> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
>> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
>> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
>> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>>
>
> could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped flywheel
> teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is sticking in cold
> weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the flywheel.
>
> "teeth grinding" is NOT good.

Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's already
marginal on CCA...

Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
>
>> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
>> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
>> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
>> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
>> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>>
>
> could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped flywheel
> teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is sticking in cold
> weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the flywheel.
>
> "teeth grinding" is NOT good.

Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's already
marginal on CCA...

Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

Zilla wrote:
> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>
Hmmm,
Better check out the whole thing; charging, battery, starter,
any possible current drain while car is parked, etc.

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

Zilla wrote:
> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>
Hmmm,
Better check out the whole thing; charging, battery, starter,
any possible current drain while car is parked, etc.

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> > news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
> >
> >> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> >> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> >> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> >> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> >> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
> >>
> >
> > could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped flywheel
> > teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is sticking in cold
> > weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the flywheel.
> >
> > "teeth grinding" is NOT good.
>
> Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
> could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's already
> marginal on CCA...
>
> Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
> that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.

I charged the battery overnight and it did start, and left it running for 20
mins to charge, then turned it off, but it won't re-start, pointing to a
weak battery, which BTW was 4 yrs old, not 2 as I mentioned earlier.
So off to Autozone to get a pro-rated priced one for the 7 yr warranty.

-Zilla

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> > news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
> >
> >> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> >> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> >> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> >> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> >> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
> >>
> >
> > could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped flywheel
> > teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is sticking in cold
> > weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the flywheel.
> >
> > "teeth grinding" is NOT good.
>
> Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
> could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's already
> marginal on CCA...
>
> Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
> that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.

I charged the battery overnight and it did start, and left it running for 20
mins to charge, then turned it off, but it won't re-start, pointing to a
weak battery, which BTW was 4 yrs old, not 2 as I mentioned earlier.
So off to Autozone to get a pro-rated priced one for the 7 yr warranty.

-Zilla

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> "Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:r00Xi.171608$1y4.153443@pd7urf2no...
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> > "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> > news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
>> >
>> >> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
>> >> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
>> >> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
>> >> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
>> >> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>> >>
>> >
>> > could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped
>> > flywheel teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is
>> > sticking in cold weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the
>> > flywheel.
>> >
>> > "teeth grinding" is NOT good.
>>
>> Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
>> could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's
>> already marginal on CCA...
>>
>> Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
>> that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.
>
> I charged the battery overnight and it did start, and left it running
> for 20 mins to charge, then turned it off, but it won't re-start,
> pointing to a weak battery, which BTW was 4 yrs old, not 2 as I
> mentioned earlier. So off to Autozone to get a pro-rated priced one
> for the 7 yr warranty.
>
> -Zilla
>
>
>

seems to me that if the battery has enough juice to turn the starter
motor,it ought to be strong enough to pull the drive gear into the flywheel
and turn the motor.Generally,if the battery is too weak,it just makes the
solenoid click,not "teeth grinding".You may still have a sticky plunger.

BTW,4 years is about average for a car battery to last,IMO.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> "Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:r00Xi.171608$1y4.153443@pd7urf2no...
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> > "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> > news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
>> >
>> >> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
>> >> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
>> >> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
>> >> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
>> >> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
>> >>
>> >
>> > could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped
>> > flywheel teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is
>> > sticking in cold weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the
>> > flywheel.
>> >
>> > "teeth grinding" is NOT good.
>>
>> Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
>> could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's
>> already marginal on CCA...
>>
>> Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
>> that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.
>
> I charged the battery overnight and it did start, and left it running
> for 20 mins to charge, then turned it off, but it won't re-start,
> pointing to a weak battery, which BTW was 4 yrs old, not 2 as I
> mentioned earlier. So off to Autozone to get a pro-rated priced one
> for the 7 yr warranty.
>
> -Zilla
>
>
>

seems to me that if the battery has enough juice to turn the starter
motor,it ought to be strong enough to pull the drive gear into the flywheel
and turn the motor.Generally,if the battery is too weak,it just makes the
solenoid click,not "teeth grinding".You may still have a sticky plunger.

BTW,4 years is about average for a car battery to last,IMO.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:md2Xi.60991$c9.28894@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
>
> > "Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:r00Xi.171608$1y4.153443@pd7urf2no...
> >> Jim Yanik wrote:
> >> > "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> >> > news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> >> >> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> >> >> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> >> >> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> >> >> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped
> >> > flywheel teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is
> >> > sticking in cold weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the
> >> > flywheel.
> >> >
> >> > "teeth grinding" is NOT good.
> >>
> >> Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
> >> could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's
> >> already marginal on CCA...
> >>
> >> Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
> >> that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.
> >
> > I charged the battery overnight and it did start, and left it running
> > for 20 mins to charge, then turned it off, but it won't re-start,
> > pointing to a weak battery, which BTW was 4 yrs old, not 2 as I
> > mentioned earlier. So off to Autozone to get a pro-rated priced one
> > for the 7 yr warranty.
> >
> > -Zilla
> >
> >
> >
>
> seems to me that if the battery has enough juice to turn the starter
> motor,it ought to be strong enough to pull the drive gear into the
flywheel
> and turn the motor.Generally,if the battery is too weak,it just makes the
> solenoid click,not "teeth grinding".You may still have a sticky plunger.
>
> BTW,4 years is about average for a car battery to last,IMO.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Ok thanks; I'll take it to the shop for that since it's still under the
109k warranty.

Re: 2000 Odyssey won't start
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:md2Xi.60991$c9.28894@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
>
> > "Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:r00Xi.171608$1y4.153443@pd7urf2no...
> >> Jim Yanik wrote:
> >> > "Zilla" <zilla62XSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> >> > news:kSPWi.1382$di.442@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm charging the battery now, though it seems to have
> >> >> enough juice. When I crank it, I just hear teeth grinding,
> >> >> and engine won't turn over. 2 yr old Duralast battery.
> >> >> Seems like this happens when it starts getting cooler,
> >> >> which in my part of the world means low 30s deg F.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > could have a bad starter,not engaging the flywheel,or stripped
> >> > flywheel teeth.Or the drive gear engagement plunger/mechanism is
> >> > sticking in cold weather,not fully pushing the drive gear into the
> >> > flywheel.
> >> >
> >> > "teeth grinding" is NOT good.
> >>
> >> Sticky plunger would be my first guess too, although a weak battery
> >> could also do it, as cold will affect its capacity, and if it's
> >> already marginal on CCA...
> >>
> >> Most mechanical and battery shops will test the battery for free, so
> >> that's an easy way to rule out (or confirm) the battery.
> >
> > I charged the battery overnight and it did start, and left it running
> > for 20 mins to charge, then turned it off, but it won't re-start,
> > pointing to a weak battery, which BTW was 4 yrs old, not 2 as I
> > mentioned earlier. So off to Autozone to get a pro-rated priced one
> > for the 7 yr warranty.
> >
> > -Zilla
> >
> >
> >
>
> seems to me that if the battery has enough juice to turn the starter
> motor,it ought to be strong enough to pull the drive gear into the
flywheel
> and turn the motor.Generally,if the battery is too weak,it just makes the
> solenoid click,not "teeth grinding".You may still have a sticky plunger.
>
> BTW,4 years is about average for a car battery to last,IMO.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Ok thanks; I'll take it to the shop for that since it's still under the
109k warranty.