2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and
found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. Transmission had to be dropped. Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. G-Man |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
You are scaring me.i have 124,000 kms. on my v6-ex right now.
Tell me you had a bad dream,right? "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually > put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
You are scaring me.i have 124,000 kms. on my v6-ex right now.
Tell me you had a bad dream,right? "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually > put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
More like an "F"ing nightmare!
What can I say, othere than scheduled maintenance, it's the only money I've ever spent on the car. G-Man "slider" <daroy@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:7b3Rd.3379$iz2.361@edtnps91... > You are scaring me.i have 124,000 kms. on my v6-ex right now. > Tell me you had a bad dream,right? > "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... >> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car >> and >> found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. >> Transmission had to be dropped. >> >> Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually >> put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. >> >> G-Man >> >> > > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
More like an "F"ing nightmare!
What can I say, othere than scheduled maintenance, it's the only money I've ever spent on the car. G-Man "slider" <daroy@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:7b3Rd.3379$iz2.361@edtnps91... > You are scaring me.i have 124,000 kms. on my v6-ex right now. > Tell me you had a bad dream,right? > "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... >> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car >> and >> found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. >> Transmission had to be dropped. >> >> Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually >> put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. >> >> G-Man >> >> > > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > Seal failures can happen anywhere, anytime. Sorry about it happening to you, right then. Mike |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > Seal failures can happen anywhere, anytime. Sorry about it happening to you, right then. Mike |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. I'll let you know in 9,000 miles (you're talking miles and not km, correct?) as I have the same exact vehicle, currently at 117,000 miles. |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. I'll let you know in 9,000 miles (you're talking miles and not km, correct?) as I have the same exact vehicle, currently at 117,000 miles. |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
G-Man wrote:
> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually > put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man ---------------------------- Make sure the PCV is not stuck open / closed, or you might get to do it all over again, later. 'Curly' |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
G-Man wrote:
> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually > put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man ---------------------------- Make sure the PCV is not stuck open / closed, or you might get to do it all over again, later. 'Curly' |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
G-Man wrote:
> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually > put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. Disclaimer: I'm a computer engineer not a automobile designer/mechanic. However, I believe I went thru something related to this on my older Volvo. For a seal to "blow" there has to be something to produce the pressure to "blow" it. Correct me if I'm wrong but seals that wear out just start leaking faster and faster; more and more leakage but not a "blow out" as mentioned. So what would cause a blow out? As best as I can guess: it either fell out or was pushed out by pressure. Let's assume it didn't fall out. What would cause pressure? How about the PVC (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) valve? If the PVC valve stops working then the blow-by from the cylinders has no where to go. This means pressure in the crankcase builds up and presses on the seals. My experience: my Volvo had started leaking oil out of the top of the engine (yes top!) from the oil filler cap. I replaced the oil filler cap seal several times but it continued to leak. I kept asking myself "why would oil leak out the top?". Finally I figured out I had a clogged flame trap (Volvo's equivalent to a PVC valve). I had that replaced (quite cheap) and no more leaking! Maybe you had a blow out because your PVC valve was clogged. Had you ever replaced it? |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
G-Man wrote:
> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I usually > put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. Disclaimer: I'm a computer engineer not a automobile designer/mechanic. However, I believe I went thru something related to this on my older Volvo. For a seal to "blow" there has to be something to produce the pressure to "blow" it. Correct me if I'm wrong but seals that wear out just start leaking faster and faster; more and more leakage but not a "blow out" as mentioned. So what would cause a blow out? As best as I can guess: it either fell out or was pushed out by pressure. Let's assume it didn't fall out. What would cause pressure? How about the PVC (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) valve? If the PVC valve stops working then the blow-by from the cylinders has no where to go. This means pressure in the crankcase builds up and presses on the seals. My experience: my Volvo had started leaking oil out of the top of the engine (yes top!) from the oil filler cap. I replaced the oil filler cap seal several times but it continued to leak. I kept asking myself "why would oil leak out the top?". Finally I figured out I had a clogged flame trap (Volvo's equivalent to a PVC valve). I had that replaced (quite cheap) and no more leaking! Maybe you had a blow out because your PVC valve was clogged. Had you ever replaced it? |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Good point, Brian. Although I have had seals that failed suddenly like that
(I don't know why) the crankcase ventilation is a real concern. Mike "Brian Stell" <bstell@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:S6gRd.1043$DC6.843@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com ... > G-Man wrote: >> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car >> and found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest >> labor. Transmission had to be dropped. >> >> Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I >> usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > Disclaimer: I'm a computer engineer not a automobile designer/mechanic. > However, I believe I went thru something related to this on my older > Volvo. > > For a seal to "blow" there has to be something to produce the pressure to > "blow" it. Correct me if I'm wrong but seals that wear out just start > leaking faster and faster; more and more leakage but not a "blow out" as > mentioned. > > So what would cause a blow out? As best as I can guess: it either fell out > or was pushed out by pressure. Let's assume it didn't fall out. What would > cause pressure? > > How about the PVC (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) valve? If the PVC valve > stops working then the blow-by from the cylinders has no where to go. This > means pressure in the crankcase builds up and presses on the seals. > > My experience: my Volvo had started leaking oil out of the top of the > engine (yes top!) from the oil filler cap. I replaced the oil filler cap > seal several times but it continued to leak. I kept asking myself "why > would oil leak out the top?". Finally I figured out I had a clogged flame > trap (Volvo's equivalent to a PVC valve). I had that replaced (quite > cheap) and no more leaking! > > Maybe you had a blow out because your PVC valve was clogged. Had you ever > replaced it? > > > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Good point, Brian. Although I have had seals that failed suddenly like that
(I don't know why) the crankcase ventilation is a real concern. Mike "Brian Stell" <bstell@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:S6gRd.1043$DC6.843@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com ... > G-Man wrote: >> Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car >> and found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest >> labor. Transmission had to be dropped. >> >> Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I >> usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > Disclaimer: I'm a computer engineer not a automobile designer/mechanic. > However, I believe I went thru something related to this on my older > Volvo. > > For a seal to "blow" there has to be something to produce the pressure to > "blow" it. Correct me if I'm wrong but seals that wear out just start > leaking faster and faster; more and more leakage but not a "blow out" as > mentioned. > > So what would cause a blow out? As best as I can guess: it either fell out > or was pushed out by pressure. Let's assume it didn't fall out. What would > cause pressure? > > How about the PVC (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) valve? If the PVC valve > stops working then the blow-by from the cylinders has no where to go. This > means pressure in the crankcase builds up and presses on the seals. > > My experience: my Volvo had started leaking oil out of the top of the > engine (yes top!) from the oil filler cap. I replaced the oil filler cap > seal several times but it continued to leak. I kept asking myself "why > would oil leak out the top?". Finally I figured out I had a clogged flame > trap (Volvo's equivalent to a PVC valve). I had that replaced (quite > cheap) and no more leaking! > > Maybe you had a blow out because your PVC valve was clogged. Had you ever > replaced it? > > > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Good advice guys. I'm going to replace the PCV valve today if I can find it
:-) When I say BLEW, I have no idea of the condition. I just know it failed. But it's not worth risking again for a $25 part. I will say I noticied it after a 6 hour drive and 70-80 mph speeds. That would certainly puts it if the PCV was clogged. G-Man "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Good advice guys. I'm going to replace the PCV valve today if I can find it
:-) When I say BLEW, I have no idea of the condition. I just know it failed. But it's not worth risking again for a $25 part. I will say I noticied it after a 6 hour drive and 70-80 mph speeds. That would certainly puts it if the PCV was clogged. G-Man "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Okay, PCV replaced...peace of mind anyway.
G-Man "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Okay, PCV replaced...peace of mind anyway.
G-Man "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1119a3dtca72ac7@news.supernews.com... > Anyone else have this happen? I had a big puddle of oil under the car and > found out it was the main seal. $600 fix. $10 seal and the rest labor. > Transmission had to be dropped. > > Car only has 126k on it. Never had a problem like this before and I > usually put close to 200k on them before trading/selling. > > G-Man > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Sometimes this faster and faster happens so fast that it seems like a blow
out. I've seen this a few times with rear main seals. The output if the crank is spinning pretty fast inside the seal.... so all you need is a little, tiny failure and the spinning crankshaft can make quick work of it. Now on a seal that is for stationary parts (like an oil pan gasket) you would be more likely to have a more gradual leak that grows bigger. > For a seal to "blow" there has to be something to produce the pressure to > "blow" it. Correct me if I'm wrong but seals that wear out just start > leaking faster and faster; more and more leakage but not a "blow out" as > mentioned. > |
Re: 2001 EX-V6 blew the main oil seal?
Sometimes this faster and faster happens so fast that it seems like a blow
out. I've seen this a few times with rear main seals. The output if the crank is spinning pretty fast inside the seal.... so all you need is a little, tiny failure and the spinning crankshaft can make quick work of it. Now on a seal that is for stationary parts (like an oil pan gasket) you would be more likely to have a more gradual leak that grows bigger. > For a seal to "blow" there has to be something to produce the pressure to > "blow" it. Correct me if I'm wrong but seals that wear out just start > leaking faster and faster; more and more leakage but not a "blow out" as > mentioned. > |
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