Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

On 2/12/04 7:05 PM, in article
8cc51214.0402121705.6bd4c31a@posting.google.com, "General Bowen"
<ajwagen@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2001 Honda Accord that has been running perfectly, but now
> suddenly does not start. When turning the key in the ignition I can
> hear the starter whirring but nothing else. The owner's manual states
> this is most likely an electrical problem of some sort. Dutifully, I
> pulled out all the fuses inside the cabin and under the hood and
> checked them. None were blown. What are the most likely sources of my
> problem and how expensive is it likely to be to fix?
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can give.

When you say you hear the starter whirring, is the engine cranking, or is it
just the starter spinning freely?

If the starter is spinning freely and not engaging the engine, then you have
a starter problem.

If the engine is actually cranking, but does not start, the first thing to
check is whether the electric fuel pump is running. Try turning the key to
the run position (warning lights on), but don't try to start it. Listen to
hear if there is a faint buzz for a few seconds. If you don't hear it, then
the fuel pump is probably not running. If this is the case, then double
check the fuel pump fuse (substitute another one of the same rating).

If the fuel pump checks out, then look for spark.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

On 2/12/04 7:05 PM, in article
8cc51214.0402121705.6bd4c31a@posting.google.com, "General Bowen"
<ajwagen@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2001 Honda Accord that has been running perfectly, but now
> suddenly does not start. When turning the key in the ignition I can
> hear the starter whirring but nothing else. The owner's manual states
> this is most likely an electrical problem of some sort. Dutifully, I
> pulled out all the fuses inside the cabin and under the hood and
> checked them. None were blown. What are the most likely sources of my
> problem and how expensive is it likely to be to fix?
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can give.

When you say you hear the starter whirring, is the engine cranking, or is it
just the starter spinning freely?

If the starter is spinning freely and not engaging the engine, then you have
a starter problem.

If the engine is actually cranking, but does not start, the first thing to
check is whether the electric fuel pump is running. Try turning the key to
the run position (warning lights on), but don't try to start it. Listen to
hear if there is a faint buzz for a few seconds. If you don't hear it, then
the fuel pump is probably not running. If this is the case, then double
check the fuel pump fuse (substitute another one of the same rating).

If the fuel pump checks out, then look for spark.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks for replying. No, the engine is not cranking, just the starter
spinning freely.

Yes, I listened for the fuel pump. I did hear the short buzzing sound
that I was told indicated it was working. I should have mentioned that
in my original post.


>
> When you say you hear the starter whirring, is the engine cranking, or is it
> just the starter spinning freely?
>
> If the starter is spinning freely and not engaging the engine, then you have
> a starter problem.
>
> If the engine is actually cranking, but does not start, the first thing to
> check is whether the electric fuel pump is running. Try turning the key to
> the run position (warning lights on), but don't try to start it. Listen to
> hear if there is a faint buzz for a few seconds. If you don't hear it, then
> the fuel pump is probably not running. If this is the case, then double
> check the fuel pump fuse (substitute another one of the same rating).
>
> If the fuel pump checks out, then look for spark.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks for replying. No, the engine is not cranking, just the starter
spinning freely.

Yes, I listened for the fuel pump. I did hear the short buzzing sound
that I was told indicated it was working. I should have mentioned that
in my original post.


>
> When you say you hear the starter whirring, is the engine cranking, or is it
> just the starter spinning freely?
>
> If the starter is spinning freely and not engaging the engine, then you have
> a starter problem.
>
> If the engine is actually cranking, but does not start, the first thing to
> check is whether the electric fuel pump is running. Try turning the key to
> the run position (warning lights on), but don't try to start it. Listen to
> hear if there is a faint buzz for a few seconds. If you don't hear it, then
> the fuel pump is probably not running. If this is the case, then double
> check the fuel pump fuse (substitute another one of the same rating).
>
> If the fuel pump checks out, then look for spark.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks for replying. No, the engine is not cranking, just the starter
spinning freely.

Yes, I listened for the fuel pump. I did hear the short buzzing sound
that I was told indicated it was working. I should have mentioned that
in my original post.


>
> When you say you hear the starter whirring, is the engine cranking, or is it
> just the starter spinning freely?
>
> If the starter is spinning freely and not engaging the engine, then you have
> a starter problem.
>
> If the engine is actually cranking, but does not start, the first thing to
> check is whether the electric fuel pump is running. Try turning the key to
> the run position (warning lights on), but don't try to start it. Listen to
> hear if there is a faint buzz for a few seconds. If you don't hear it, then
> the fuel pump is probably not running. If this is the case, then double
> check the fuel pump fuse (substitute another one of the same rating).
>
> If the fuel pump checks out, then look for spark.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks for replying. No, the engine is not cranking, just the starter
spinning freely.

Yes, I listened for the fuel pump. I did hear the short buzzing sound
that I was told indicated it was working. I should have mentioned that
in my original post.


>
> When you say you hear the starter whirring, is the engine cranking, or is it
> just the starter spinning freely?
>
> If the starter is spinning freely and not engaging the engine, then you have
> a starter problem.
>
> If the engine is actually cranking, but does not start, the first thing to
> check is whether the electric fuel pump is running. Try turning the key to
> the run position (warning lights on), but don't try to start it. Listen to
> hear if there is a faint buzz for a few seconds. If you don't hear it, then
> the fuel pump is probably not running. If this is the case, then double
> check the fuel pump fuse (substitute another one of the same rating).
>
> If the fuel pump checks out, then look for spark.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks Viktor,
The 3year 34k warranty ran out last month. Do you think there is any
chance I can get Honda to pay for a new starter. 3 years seems kinda
lame since Honda prides themselves on reliability. Do you know how
long starters last on average?

Thanks again.
Drew


"electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mrudnUV4ue5zurHdRVn-gQ@comcast.com>...
> I forgot to mention. Those prices are just for the starter itself. Count in
> about an hour of work ($60) and you got about $250 for the whole fix.
>
> Check you warranty for your accord before buying any parts. You might not
> have to pay anything if the parts that need to be fixed are under warranty.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fZqdnR6gmfzOurHdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then it's
> most
> > likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or repair, whichever
> is
> > cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140 after you return your broken
> > starter. For a 2001 accord it might be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but it's
> > almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.
> >
> > --Viktor
> >
> > "General Bowen" <ajwagen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8cc51214.0402121705.6bd4c31a@posting.google.c om...
> > > I have a 2001 Honda Accord that has been running perfectly, but now
> > > suddenly does not start. When turning the key in the ignition I can
> > > hear the starter whirring but nothing else. The owner's manual states
> > > this is most likely an electrical problem of some sort. Dutifully, I
> > > pulled out all the fuses inside the cabin and under the hood and
> > > checked them. None were blown. What are the most likely sources of my
> > > problem and how expensive is it likely to be to fix?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help anyone can give.
> >
> >

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks Viktor,
The 3year 34k warranty ran out last month. Do you think there is any
chance I can get Honda to pay for a new starter. 3 years seems kinda
lame since Honda prides themselves on reliability. Do you know how
long starters last on average?

Thanks again.
Drew


"electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mrudnUV4ue5zurHdRVn-gQ@comcast.com>...
> I forgot to mention. Those prices are just for the starter itself. Count in
> about an hour of work ($60) and you got about $250 for the whole fix.
>
> Check you warranty for your accord before buying any parts. You might not
> have to pay anything if the parts that need to be fixed are under warranty.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fZqdnR6gmfzOurHdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then it's
> most
> > likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or repair, whichever
> is
> > cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140 after you return your broken
> > starter. For a 2001 accord it might be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but it's
> > almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.
> >
> > --Viktor
> >
> > "General Bowen" <ajwagen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8cc51214.0402121705.6bd4c31a@posting.google.c om...
> > > I have a 2001 Honda Accord that has been running perfectly, but now
> > > suddenly does not start. When turning the key in the ignition I can
> > > hear the starter whirring but nothing else. The owner's manual states
> > > this is most likely an electrical problem of some sort. Dutifully, I
> > > pulled out all the fuses inside the cabin and under the hood and
> > > checked them. None were blown. What are the most likely sources of my
> > > problem and how expensive is it likely to be to fix?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help anyone can give.
> >
> >

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks Viktor,
The 3year 34k warranty ran out last month. Do you think there is any
chance I can get Honda to pay for a new starter. 3 years seems kinda
lame since Honda prides themselves on reliability. Do you know how
long starters last on average?

Thanks again.
Drew


"electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mrudnUV4ue5zurHdRVn-gQ@comcast.com>...
> I forgot to mention. Those prices are just for the starter itself. Count in
> about an hour of work ($60) and you got about $250 for the whole fix.
>
> Check you warranty for your accord before buying any parts. You might not
> have to pay anything if the parts that need to be fixed are under warranty.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fZqdnR6gmfzOurHdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then it's
> most
> > likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or repair, whichever
> is
> > cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140 after you return your broken
> > starter. For a 2001 accord it might be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but it's
> > almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.
> >
> > --Viktor
> >
> > "General Bowen" <ajwagen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8cc51214.0402121705.6bd4c31a@posting.google.c om...
> > > I have a 2001 Honda Accord that has been running perfectly, but now
> > > suddenly does not start. When turning the key in the ignition I can
> > > hear the starter whirring but nothing else. The owner's manual states
> > > this is most likely an electrical problem of some sort. Dutifully, I
> > > pulled out all the fuses inside the cabin and under the hood and
> > > checked them. None were blown. What are the most likely sources of my
> > > problem and how expensive is it likely to be to fix?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help anyone can give.
> >
> >

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thanks Viktor,
The 3year 34k warranty ran out last month. Do you think there is any
chance I can get Honda to pay for a new starter. 3 years seems kinda
lame since Honda prides themselves on reliability. Do you know how
long starters last on average?

Thanks again.
Drew


"electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mrudnUV4ue5zurHdRVn-gQ@comcast.com>...
> I forgot to mention. Those prices are just for the starter itself. Count in
> about an hour of work ($60) and you got about $250 for the whole fix.
>
> Check you warranty for your accord before buying any parts. You might not
> have to pay anything if the parts that need to be fixed are under warranty.
>
> --Viktor
>
> "electricked" <welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fZqdnR6gmfzOurHdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then it's
> most
> > likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or repair, whichever
> is
> > cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140 after you return your broken
> > starter. For a 2001 accord it might be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but it's
> > almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.
> >
> > --Viktor
> >
> > "General Bowen" <ajwagen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8cc51214.0402121705.6bd4c31a@posting.google.c om...
> > > I have a 2001 Honda Accord that has been running perfectly, but now
> > > suddenly does not start. When turning the key in the ignition I can
> > > hear the starter whirring but nothing else. The owner's manual states
> > > this is most likely an electrical problem of some sort. Dutifully, I
> > > pulled out all the fuses inside the cabin and under the hood and
> > > checked them. None were blown. What are the most likely sources of my
> > > problem and how expensive is it likely to be to fix?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help anyone can give.
> >
> >

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thank you. I know little about car repair, and thought that since the
starter was whirring but no cranking that meant the problem was
elsewhere. Thanks for helping straighten this out for me.

If it is just the starter should all the electronics/indicators in the
cabin still work normally? For instance, the radio/cd player doesn't
work and all the door and trunk open indicator lights on the
instrument panel stay on even thought they all are closed.

Thanks again.

w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402C2C5D.87477EE8@hotmail.com>...
> electricked has described what could be a starter that is
> turning but not engaging. Starter must slide a gear into
> place to turn engine. When starter is not running, then it is
> not connected to engine. Sounds like that engagement solenoid
> is not working but starter is rotating anyway. Repair
> requires a whole new starter.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then
> > it's most likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or
> > repair, whichever is cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140
> > after you return your broken starter. For a 2001 accord it might
> > be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but
> > it's almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thank you. I know little about car repair, and thought that since the
starter was whirring but no cranking that meant the problem was
elsewhere. Thanks for helping straighten this out for me.

If it is just the starter should all the electronics/indicators in the
cabin still work normally? For instance, the radio/cd player doesn't
work and all the door and trunk open indicator lights on the
instrument panel stay on even thought they all are closed.

Thanks again.

w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402C2C5D.87477EE8@hotmail.com>...
> electricked has described what could be a starter that is
> turning but not engaging. Starter must slide a gear into
> place to turn engine. When starter is not running, then it is
> not connected to engine. Sounds like that engagement solenoid
> is not working but starter is rotating anyway. Repair
> requires a whole new starter.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then
> > it's most likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or
> > repair, whichever is cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140
> > after you return your broken starter. For a 2001 accord it might
> > be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but
> > it's almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thank you. I know little about car repair, and thought that since the
starter was whirring but no cranking that meant the problem was
elsewhere. Thanks for helping straighten this out for me.

If it is just the starter should all the electronics/indicators in the
cabin still work normally? For instance, the radio/cd player doesn't
work and all the door and trunk open indicator lights on the
instrument panel stay on even thought they all are closed.

Thanks again.

w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402C2C5D.87477EE8@hotmail.com>...
> electricked has described what could be a starter that is
> turning but not engaging. Starter must slide a gear into
> place to turn engine. When starter is not running, then it is
> not connected to engine. Sounds like that engagement solenoid
> is not working but starter is rotating anyway. Repair
> requires a whole new starter.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then
> > it's most likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or
> > repair, whichever is cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140
> > after you return your broken starter. For a 2001 accord it might
> > be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but
> > it's almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

Thank you. I know little about car repair, and thought that since the
starter was whirring but no cranking that meant the problem was
elsewhere. Thanks for helping straighten this out for me.

If it is just the starter should all the electronics/indicators in the
cabin still work normally? For instance, the radio/cd player doesn't
work and all the door and trunk open indicator lights on the
instrument panel stay on even thought they all are closed.

Thanks again.

w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402C2C5D.87477EE8@hotmail.com>...
> electricked has described what could be a starter that is
> turning but not engaging. Starter must slide a gear into
> place to turn engine. When starter is not running, then it is
> not connected to engine. Sounds like that engagement solenoid
> is not working but starter is rotating anyway. Repair
> requires a whole new starter.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Make sure the battery is good. If the engine is not turning, then
> > it's most likely the starter itself. Might need a replacement or
> > repair, whichever is cheaper. For a 98 accord the starter is $140
> > after you return your broken starter. For a 2001 accord it might
> > be a bit more (around $200).
> >
> > As far as fixing the starter, I'm not sure how much it'd cost, but
> > it's almost in the same range.
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Re: 2001 Honda Accord starting problem
 

General Bowen wrote:
>
> Thank you. I know little about car repair, and thought that since the
> starter was whirring but no cranking that meant the problem was
> elsewhere. Thanks for helping straighten this out for me.
>
> If it is just the starter should all the electronics/indicators in the
> cabin still work normally? For instance, the radio/cd player doesn't
> work and all the door and trunk open indicator lights on the
> instrument panel stay on even thought they all are closed.
>
> Thanks again.
> ==================

Check your battery terminals for cleanness, as well as the ground wires.
Retighten after putting vaseline on the battery terminals. Having the
power OFF will probably reset a couple of your problems. If you have
immobilizer, read what your manual says about avoiding troubles.

Has your dealer checked whether your model qualifies for the ignition
switch recall (and any other TSB stuff)?

You didn't mention the mileage, but I'd guess a starter would last
150,000 miles without service, depending on whether you were delivering
pizza or not. :-)

'Curly'

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