2002civic startup problem
 

Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it is no problem, but
at any time we people feel comfortable, means a cooler day, or after
overnight park, the first Startup will hesitate for about 1-2 seconds. Is it
fuel pressure problem, or something else? Can I solve the problem myself, or
I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

ZM

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be simply
a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it, first.
Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system checks
at
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .

If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
battery.

Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended for
Hondas.

How many miles on your Civic, by the way?

"zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
news:765726928d723@uwe...
> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it
> is no problem, but
> at any time we people feel comfortable, means a cooler
> day, or after
> overnight park, the first Startup will hesitate for about
> 1-2 seconds. Is it
> fuel pressure problem, or something else? Can I solve the
> problem myself, or
> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be simply
a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it, first.
Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system checks
at
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .

If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
battery.

Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended for
Hondas.

How many miles on your Civic, by the way?

"zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
news:765726928d723@uwe...
> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it
> is no problem, but
> at any time we people feel comfortable, means a cooler
> day, or after
> overnight park, the first Startup will hesitate for about
> 1-2 seconds. Is it
> fuel pressure problem, or something else? Can I solve the
> problem myself, or
> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be simply
a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it, first.
Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system checks
at
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .

If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
battery.

Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended for
Hondas.

How many miles on your Civic, by the way?

"zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
news:765726928d723@uwe...
> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it
> is no problem, but
> at any time we people feel comfortable, means a cooler
> day, or after
> overnight park, the first Startup will hesitate for about
> 1-2 seconds. Is it
> fuel pressure problem, or something else? Can I solve the
> problem myself, or
> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

Thanks Elle,
It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it later. But there was
no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short while.

best,

ZM
Elle wrote:
>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be simply
>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it, first.
>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system checks
>at
>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .
>
>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
>battery.
>
>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended for
>Hondas.
>
>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>
>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it
>> is no problem, but
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> problem myself, or
>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

Thanks Elle,
It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it later. But there was
no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short while.

best,

ZM
Elle wrote:
>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be simply
>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it, first.
>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system checks
>at
>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .
>
>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
>battery.
>
>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended for
>Hondas.
>
>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>
>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it
>> is no problem, but
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> problem myself, or
>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

Thanks Elle,
It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it later. But there was
no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short while.

best,

ZM
Elle wrote:
>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be simply
>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it, first.
>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system checks
>at
>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .
>
>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
>battery.
>
>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended for
>Hondas.
>
>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>
>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F, it
>> is no problem, but
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> problem myself, or
>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.

Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.

"zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
news:7658d6f0b7017@uwe...
> Thanks Elle,
> It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it
> later. But there was
> no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short
> while.
>
> best,
>
> ZM
> Elle wrote:
>>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be
>>simply
>>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it,
>>first.
>>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system
>>checks
>>at
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .
>>
>>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
>>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
>>battery.
>>
>>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended
>>for
>>Hondas.
>>
>>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>>
>>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F,
>>> it
>>> is no problem, but
>>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>> problem myself, or
>>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.
>

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.

Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.

"zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
news:7658d6f0b7017@uwe...
> Thanks Elle,
> It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it
> later. But there was
> no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short
> while.
>
> best,
>
> ZM
> Elle wrote:
>>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be
>>simply
>>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it,
>>first.
>>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system
>>checks
>>at
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .
>>
>>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
>>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
>>battery.
>>
>>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended
>>for
>>Hondas.
>>
>>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>>
>>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F,
>>> it
>>> is no problem, but
>>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>> problem myself, or
>>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.
>

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.

Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.

"zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
news:7658d6f0b7017@uwe...
> Thanks Elle,
> It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it
> later. But there was
> no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short
> while.
>
> best,
>
> ZM
> Elle wrote:
>>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be
>>simply
>>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it,
>>first.
>>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system
>>checks
>>at
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html .
>>
>>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
>>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
>>battery.
>>
>>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended
>>for
>>Hondas.
>>
>>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>>
>>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F,
>>> it
>>> is no problem, but
>>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>> problem myself, or
>>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.
>

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

On Aug 7, 4:37 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
> pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
> battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
> average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
> the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.
>
> Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
> replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.
>
> "zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
>
> news:7658d6f0b7017@uwe...
>
>
>
> > Thanks Elle,
> > It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it
> > later. But there was
> > no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short
> > while.
>
> > best,
>
> > ZM
> > Elle wrote:
> >>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be
> >>simply
> >>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it,
> >>first.
> >>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system
> >>checks
> >>at
> >>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html.
>
> >>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
> >>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
> >>battery.
>
> >>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended
> >>for
> >>Hondas.
>
> >>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>
> >>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F,
> >>> it
> >>> is no problem, but
> >>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >>> problem myself, or
> >>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Replacing battery might be a stone in dark. Your money will be well
spent with a proper diagnostics.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

On Aug 7, 4:37 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
> pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
> battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
> average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
> the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.
>
> Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
> replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.
>
> "zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
>
> news:7658d6f0b7017@uwe...
>
>
>
> > Thanks Elle,
> > It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it
> > later. But there was
> > no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short
> > while.
>
> > best,
>
> > ZM
> > Elle wrote:
> >>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be
> >>simply
> >>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it,
> >>first.
> >>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system
> >>checks
> >>at
> >>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html.
>
> >>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
> >>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
> >>battery.
>
> >>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended
> >>for
> >>Hondas.
>
> >>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>
> >>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F,
> >>> it
> >>> is no problem, but
> >>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >>> problem myself, or
> >>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Replacing battery might be a stone in dark. Your money will be well
spent with a proper diagnostics.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

On Aug 7, 4:37 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
> pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
> battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
> average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
> the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.
>
> Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
> replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.
>
> "zmu" <u36442@uwe> wrote in message
>
> news:7658d6f0b7017@uwe...
>
>
>
> > Thanks Elle,
> > It is the original battery, about 30K. I will check it
> > later. But there was
> > no click noise, I just needed to hold the key for a short
> > while.
>
> > best,
>
> > ZM
> > Elle wrote:
> >>The symptoms and age of your Civic suggest it may be
> >>simply
> >>a dying battery, so I'd try to quickly eliminate it,
> >>first.
> >>Try the five quick and dirty battery/charging system
> >>checks
> >>at
> >>http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html.
>
> >>If this Civic is still on its original battery, and if any
> >>of the checks look suspect, I'd seriously consider a new
> >>battery.
>
> >>Interstate is the brand probably most often recommended
> >>for
> >>Hondas.
>
> >>How many miles on your Civic, by the way?
>
> >>> Hi Guys, It started this year. For a hot day with 92F,
> >>> it
> >>> is no problem, but
> >>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >>> problem myself, or
> >>> I have to send it to dealer? Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Replacing battery might be a stone in dark. Your money will be well
spent with a proper diagnostics.

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

<morshedbashir@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186537979.087358.248920@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> On Aug 7, 4:37 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
>> pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
>> battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
>> average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
>> the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.
>>
>> Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
>> replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.
>>
>
> Replacing battery might be a stone in dark. Your money will be well
> spent with a proper diagnostics.
>
>
In recent years I've come around to Elle's way of thinking on this.
Replacing the battery that is already at life expectancy does two good
things: it reduces the likelihood the battery will fail when it is needed
and it reduces the heat generated within the alternator after starting. If
the battery costs $100 and still has a year of life left the OP would only
be spending about $20 (the prorated value of the battery in its sixth year)
for those valuable benefits.

The first step of troubleshooting is to make everything right; clean
connections, replace worn belts... then see what problems remain. Otherwise
I agree about a proper diagnosis. Shotgunning out an alternator is not the
way to go.

Mike

Re: 2002civic startup problem
 

<morshedbashir@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186537979.087358.248920@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> On Aug 7, 4:37 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Oh yeah, five years old, I would consider replacing it
>> pre-emptively. You got your money's worth out of this
>> battery. (Mine have been lasting about 4 or 4.5 years, on
>> average.) Even if this does not fix the problem, you spare
>> the wear and tear an old battery does on an alternator.
>>
>> Especially if you've done a few jump starts on this car,
>> replace it. Jump starts reduce battery life.
>>
>
> Replacing battery might be a stone in dark. Your money will be well
> spent with a proper diagnostics.
>
>
In recent years I've come around to Elle's way of thinking on this.
Replacing the battery that is already at life expectancy does two good
things: it reduces the likelihood the battery will fail when it is needed
and it reduces the heat generated within the alternator after starting. If
the battery costs $100 and still has a year of life left the OP would only
be spending about $20 (the prorated value of the battery in its sixth year)
for those valuable benefits.

The first step of troubleshooting is to make everything right; clean
connections, replace worn belts... then see what problems remain. Otherwise
I agree about a proper diagnosis. Shotgunning out an alternator is not the
way to go.

Mike