Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

Dano58 wrote:
> On Jan 24, 9:22 pm, Dave Kelsen <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>
>> Imprimus, my car... <snip>
>>
>> Secundus, the window... <snip>
>
> You have names for your car AND your window?! ;-)

the key clue is "/two/ door-related problems" [my emphasis] - imprimus
translates to "in the first place". you can figure the rest out from there.

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

Dano58 wrote:
> On Jan 24, 9:22 pm, Dave Kelsen <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>
>> Imprimus, my car... <snip>
>>
>> Secundus, the window... <snip>
>
> You have names for your car AND your window?! ;-)

the key clue is "/two/ door-related problems" [my emphasis] - imprimus
translates to "in the first place". you can figure the rest out from there.

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>
> the key clue is "/two/ door-related problems" [my emphasis] - imprimus
> translates to "in the first place". you can figure the rest out from
> there.

It must be terrible to go through life without a sense of humour. {;^)

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>
> the key clue is "/two/ door-related problems" [my emphasis] - imprimus
> translates to "in the first place". you can figure the rest out from
> there.

It must be terrible to go through life without a sense of humour. {;^)

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>
> the key clue is "/two/ door-related problems" [my emphasis] - imprimus
> translates to "in the first place". you can figure the rest out from
> there.

It must be terrible to go through life without a sense of humour. {;^)

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>
> the key clue is "/two/ door-related problems" [my emphasis] - imprimus
> translates to "in the first place". you can figure the rest out from
> there.

It must be terrible to go through life without a sense of humour. {;^)

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:

> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>
>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means that
>> the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't cause the
>> reminder sound, and there may be other possible repercussions I don't
>> know about. It's not the light, which works fine. Whatever the modern
>> equivalent of the little plunger that used to be in the door and opened
>> a circuit when not depressed has ceased to work.
>
> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric grease
> to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>
>>
>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I have
>> a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory perusal.
>>
>>
>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running, but
>> is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not running. It
>> is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other three windows
>> exhibit this behavior.
>
> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
> reliable long term solution.

Thanks, Jim and others.

I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.

Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
door switch and look at it.

Thanks again, folks.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
"This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as
when the baby gets hold of a hammer." -- Will Rogers

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:

> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>
>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means that
>> the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't cause the
>> reminder sound, and there may be other possible repercussions I don't
>> know about. It's not the light, which works fine. Whatever the modern
>> equivalent of the little plunger that used to be in the door and opened
>> a circuit when not depressed has ceased to work.
>
> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric grease
> to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>
>>
>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I have
>> a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory perusal.
>>
>>
>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running, but
>> is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not running. It
>> is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other three windows
>> exhibit this behavior.
>
> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
> reliable long term solution.

Thanks, Jim and others.

I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.

Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
door switch and look at it.

Thanks again, folks.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
"This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as
when the baby gets hold of a hammer." -- Will Rogers

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:

> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>
>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means that
>> the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't cause the
>> reminder sound, and there may be other possible repercussions I don't
>> know about. It's not the light, which works fine. Whatever the modern
>> equivalent of the little plunger that used to be in the door and opened
>> a circuit when not depressed has ceased to work.
>
> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric grease
> to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>
>>
>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I have
>> a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory perusal.
>>
>>
>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running, but
>> is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not running. It
>> is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other three windows
>> exhibit this behavior.
>
> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
> reliable long term solution.

Thanks, Jim and others.

I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.

Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
door switch and look at it.

Thanks again, folks.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
"This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as
when the baby gets hold of a hammer." -- Will Rogers

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:

> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>
>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means that
>> the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't cause the
>> reminder sound, and there may be other possible repercussions I don't
>> know about. It's not the light, which works fine. Whatever the modern
>> equivalent of the little plunger that used to be in the door and opened
>> a circuit when not depressed has ceased to work.
>
> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric grease
> to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>
>>
>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I have
>> a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory perusal.
>>
>>
>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running, but
>> is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not running. It
>> is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other three windows
>> exhibit this behavior.
>
> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
> reliable long term solution.

Thanks, Jim and others.

I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.

Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
door switch and look at it.

Thanks again, folks.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
"This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as
when the baby gets hold of a hammer." -- Will Rogers

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>>
>>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means
>>> that the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't
>>> cause the reminder sound, and there may be other possible
>>> repercussions I don't know about. It's not the light, which works
>>> fine. Whatever the modern equivalent of the little plunger that used
>>> to be in the door and opened a circuit when not depressed has ceased
>>> to work.
>>
>> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric
>> grease to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>>
>>>
>>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I
>>> have a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory
>>> perusal.
>>>
>>>
>>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running,
>>> but is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not
>>> running. It is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other
>>> three windows exhibit this behavior.
>>
>> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
>> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
>> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
>> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
>> reliable long term solution.
>
> Thanks, Jim and others.
>
> I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
> provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
> they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.
>
> Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
> door switch and look at it.
>
> Thanks again, folks.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen

silicone spray won't do much if it's an issue with the contacts - it
will protect once cleaned, but won't resolve the problem if dirty. and
a dealer won't clean, they'll just replace. the cheap and possibly most
satisfactory solution is the d.i.y. cleanup job.

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>>
>>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means
>>> that the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't
>>> cause the reminder sound, and there may be other possible
>>> repercussions I don't know about. It's not the light, which works
>>> fine. Whatever the modern equivalent of the little plunger that used
>>> to be in the door and opened a circuit when not depressed has ceased
>>> to work.
>>
>> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric
>> grease to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>>
>>>
>>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I
>>> have a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory
>>> perusal.
>>>
>>>
>>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running,
>>> but is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not
>>> running. It is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other
>>> three windows exhibit this behavior.
>>
>> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
>> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
>> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
>> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
>> reliable long term solution.
>
> Thanks, Jim and others.
>
> I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
> provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
> they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.
>
> Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
> door switch and look at it.
>
> Thanks again, folks.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen

silicone spray won't do much if it's an issue with the contacts - it
will protect once cleaned, but won't resolve the problem if dirty. and
a dealer won't clean, they'll just replace. the cheap and possibly most
satisfactory solution is the d.i.y. cleanup job.

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>>
>>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means
>>> that the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't
>>> cause the reminder sound, and there may be other possible
>>> repercussions I don't know about. It's not the light, which works
>>> fine. Whatever the modern equivalent of the little plunger that used
>>> to be in the door and opened a circuit when not depressed has ceased
>>> to work.
>>
>> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric
>> grease to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>>
>>>
>>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I
>>> have a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory
>>> perusal.
>>>
>>>
>>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running,
>>> but is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not
>>> running. It is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other
>>> three windows exhibit this behavior.
>>
>> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
>> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
>> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
>> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
>> reliable long term solution.
>
> Thanks, Jim and others.
>
> I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
> provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
> they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.
>
> Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
> door switch and look at it.
>
> Thanks again, folks.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen

silicone spray won't do much if it's an issue with the contacts - it
will protect once cleaned, but won't resolve the problem if dirty. and
a dealer won't clean, they'll just replace. the cheap and possibly most
satisfactory solution is the d.i.y. cleanup job.

Re: 2003 Accord 4 cyl, door-related problems.
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 1/25/2007 11:30 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>> I have two distinct door-related problems.
>>>
>>> Imprimus, my car no longer knows when my door is open; this means
>>> that the light doesn't come on, a key left in the ignition doesn't
>>> cause the reminder sound, and there may be other possible
>>> repercussions I don't know about. It's not the light, which works
>>> fine. Whatever the modern equivalent of the little plunger that used
>>> to be in the door and opened a circuit when not depressed has ceased
>>> to work.
>>
>> take the switch off and clean up the contacts. apply dielectric
>> grease to prevent future corrosion. if bad, replace.
>>
>>>
>>> What I seek is some idea about how/where to look for solutions. I
>>> have a Helm's, but didn't find anything in an admittedly cursory
>>> perusal.
>>>
>>>
>>> Secundus, the window in the same (driver's) door is becoming very
>>> hesitant to go up. It works, albeit slowly, if the car is running,
>>> but is resistant enough to stop altogether if the engine is not
>>> running. It is not (directly) a battery problem; none of the other
>>> three windows exhibit this behavior.
>>
>> if the system is fouled up, the lower voltage of battery only may not
>> provide sufficient "oomph" to work it. need to take the mechanism out
>> and clean everything up. often however, something will be broken or
>> something like cable frayed. replacement is the easiest and most
>> reliable long term solution.
>
> Thanks, Jim and others.
>
> I took my Odyssey in for 120K checkup, and mentioned this to the service
> provider. She said that what they do with the window is silicone spray;
> they would do something else if that didn't resolve the problem.
>
> Life is hectic now, but I hope to get a few minutes soon to pull the
> door switch and look at it.
>
> Thanks again, folks.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen

silicone spray won't do much if it's an issue with the contacts - it
will protect once cleaned, but won't resolve the problem if dirty. and
a dealer won't clean, they'll just replace. the cheap and possibly most
satisfactory solution is the d.i.y. cleanup job.