Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

Ari Rankum wrote:

>
> Thanks, Jon. I picked up a can of SeaFoam on the way back from the
> dealer - so we're on the same track. I may have substantially gunked up
> the fuel filter with the first batch of gas. But I think what is in the
> tank now is okay. I was half-way through a tank of Costco gas on Friday
> when this started. I topped up the tank today and threw in a whole pint
> of SeaFoam. I was going to replace the fuel filter tomorrow (if I can
> figure out where that lives on an 03 Accord) and run some of the SeaFoam
> gas through the injectors.

I think the only fuel filter is not easily replaceable and is in the tank.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

John Horner wrote:
> Ari Rankum wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
>> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
>> all cylinders and no other codes.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>
> I've seen old gasoline turn to a horrible sludge varnish yuck mix. Open
> up the gas cap and have a sniff. Does it smell simply horrible? When
> fuel goes really bad it takes on a terrible smell.
>
> If you do have fuel gone bad then it is probably going to mean dropping
> the fuel tank to clean it out as well as purging all the lines and
> perhaps the injectors. The job could run into the thousands of dollars
> at today's shop rates.

forget it. just run fresh gas and injector cleaner for a month.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

John Horner wrote:
> Ari Rankum wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
>> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
>> all cylinders and no other codes.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>
> I've seen old gasoline turn to a horrible sludge varnish yuck mix. Open
> up the gas cap and have a sniff. Does it smell simply horrible? When
> fuel goes really bad it takes on a terrible smell.
>
> If you do have fuel gone bad then it is probably going to mean dropping
> the fuel tank to clean it out as well as purging all the lines and
> perhaps the injectors. The job could run into the thousands of dollars
> at today's shop rates.

forget it. just run fresh gas and injector cleaner for a month.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

John Horner wrote:
> Ari Rankum wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
>> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
>> all cylinders and no other codes.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>
> I've seen old gasoline turn to a horrible sludge varnish yuck mix. Open
> up the gas cap and have a sniff. Does it smell simply horrible? When
> fuel goes really bad it takes on a terrible smell.
>
> If you do have fuel gone bad then it is probably going to mean dropping
> the fuel tank to clean it out as well as purging all the lines and
> perhaps the injectors. The job could run into the thousands of dollars
> at today's shop rates.

forget it. just run fresh gas and injector cleaner for a month.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
> with 200 miles on the clock.
>
> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>
> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>
> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
> they were bad.
>
> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
> all cylinders and no other codes.
>
> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.

I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
after that.

Good luck.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
> with 200 miles on the clock.
>
> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>
> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>
> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
> they were bad.
>
> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
> all cylinders and no other codes.
>
> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.

I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
after that.

Good luck.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
> with 200 miles on the clock.
>
> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>
> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>
> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
> they were bad.
>
> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
> all cylinders and no other codes.
>
> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.

I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
after that.

Good luck.

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in
news:1182348697.936922.224930@n60g2000hse.googlegr oups.com:

> On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
>> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
>> with 200 miles on the clock.
>>
>> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
>> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
>> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
>> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>>
>> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
>> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
>> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
>> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
>> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
>> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>>
>> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
>> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
>> they were bad.
>>
>> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
>> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
>> all cylinders and no other codes.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
> fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
> best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
> automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
> disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
> after that.
>
> Good luck.
>
>

what is "automotive" acetone?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in
news:1182348697.936922.224930@n60g2000hse.googlegr oups.com:

> On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
>> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
>> with 200 miles on the clock.
>>
>> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
>> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
>> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
>> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>>
>> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
>> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
>> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
>> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
>> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
>> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>>
>> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
>> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
>> they were bad.
>>
>> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
>> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
>> all cylinders and no other codes.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
> fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
> best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
> automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
> disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
> after that.
>
> Good luck.
>
>

what is "automotive" acetone?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in
news:1182348697.936922.224930@n60g2000hse.googlegr oups.com:

> On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
>> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
>> with 200 miles on the clock.
>>
>> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
>> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
>> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
>> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>>
>> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
>> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
>> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
>> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
>> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
>> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>>
>> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
>> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
>> they were bad.
>>
>> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
>> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
>> all cylinders and no other codes.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
> fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
> best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
> automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
> disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
> after that.
>
> Good luck.
>
>

what is "automotive" acetone?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

On Jun 20, 1:18 pm, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
> highkm <i...@mac.com> wrote innews:1182348697.936922.224930@n60g2000hse.google groups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
> >> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
> >> with 200 miles on the clock.
>
> >> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
> >> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
> >> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
> >> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>
> >> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
> >> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
> >> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
> >> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
> >> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
> >> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>
> >> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
> >> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
> >> they were bad.
>
> >> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
> >> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
> >> all cylinders and no other codes.
>
> >> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> >> Thanks in advance.
>
> > I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
> > fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
> > best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
> > automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
> > disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
> > after that.
>
> > Good luck.
>
> what is "automotive" acetone?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is 100% pure acetone. Some people suggest using a nail polish
remover (acetone based). Don't use this as it contains a color
additive in most cases that under heat creates a thin film (a coating
which reduces a flow-through diameter of the hole). In Canada one can
purchase automotive acetone in Canadian tire. The label on the can is
"Automotive Acetone".

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

On Jun 20, 1:18 pm, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
> highkm <i...@mac.com> wrote innews:1182348697.936922.224930@n60g2000hse.google groups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
> >> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
> >> with 200 miles on the clock.
>
> >> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
> >> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
> >> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
> >> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>
> >> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
> >> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
> >> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
> >> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
> >> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
> >> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>
> >> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
> >> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
> >> they were bad.
>
> >> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
> >> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
> >> all cylinders and no other codes.
>
> >> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> >> Thanks in advance.
>
> > I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
> > fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
> > best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
> > automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
> > disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
> > after that.
>
> > Good luck.
>
> what is "automotive" acetone?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is 100% pure acetone. Some people suggest using a nail polish
remover (acetone based). Don't use this as it contains a color
additive in most cases that under heat creates a thin film (a coating
which reduces a flow-through diameter of the hole). In Canada one can
purchase automotive acetone in Canadian tire. The label on the can is
"Automotive Acetone".

Re: 2003 Accord Missing on All Cylinders
 

On Jun 20, 1:18 pm, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
> highkm <i...@mac.com> wrote innews:1182348697.936922.224930@n60g2000hse.google groups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 10:11 pm, Ari Rankum <ari_ran...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I have a 2003 Accord EX 4-cyl with M/T that is on its 6th tank of gas,
> >> ever. Yes, it has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it two months ago
> >> with 200 miles on the clock.
>
> >> Two days ago, on the way home from work, the car started missing, badly.
> >> It feels a lot like a drenched ignition system. Clearly, one or more
> >> cylinders is not firing. I had a prior Accord that munched its own
> >> distributor, and this car is behaving a lot like that one.
>
> >> I dropped by the dealer today. He dumped the codes and said, "you're
> >> missing, really badly, on all cylinders". ( I resisted the urge to
> >> invoke the name of Sherlock) He didn't have time to work on it today,
> >> but guessed it was "fuel". I went and pulled the plugs. They all
> >> looked fine, maybe a little carbon buildup on #3 and #4. So I cleaned
> >> and gapped them all. I put them back and, "no help".
>
> >> I've heard that the O2 sensor and the EGR valve are common problems on
> >> the 03 Accord. But the dealer said they would have thrown a code if
> >> they were bad.
>
> >> I'm thinking, cuz the car was sold to me with 3-year-old gas, that I may
> >> have a gunked up fuel filter. That would certainly explain missing on
> >> all cylinders and no other codes.
>
> >> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> >> Thanks in advance.
>
> > I had a similar problem with a 91 accord. Don't waste your money with
> > fuel injector cleaners, gas line cleaners etc. The cheapest and the
> > best solution for varnish buildup and gumming due to old fuel is
> > automotive acetone. I poured in 100ML per 50L of fuel. The problem
> > disappeared by the time a tank was half empty. Never had a problem
> > after that.
>
> > Good luck.
>
> what is "automotive" acetone?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is 100% pure acetone. Some people suggest using a nail polish
remover (acetone based). Don't use this as it contains a color
additive in most cases that under heat creates a thin film (a coating
which reduces a flow-through diameter of the hole). In Canada one can
purchase automotive acetone in Canadian tire. The label on the can is
"Automotive Acetone".