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Rob 09-06-2005 07:30 AM

2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
Just thought this gas mileage story might be worth noting for some
Honda Accord buyers.

I just took my first long ride with this car this past weekend from
Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas and back. I used cruise control 99
percent of the time and had 2 adults, 2 teenagers and baggage and air
conditioning 100 percent of the time. I locked in the cruise control
at about 66 or 67 mph (speed limit said 70) and just stayed mostly in
the right lane to allow cars/trucks to pass me. Most of the trip is
hilly terrain and weather was sunny and warm and not much wind. Car
is in excellent shape.

I was concerned that gas stations would be closed based on news
reports earlier so I wanted to be sure to do this trip on one tank of
gas tho it turned out gas stations were open. I calculated I got 37.5
mile/gal and I was totally surprised. I'm sure it's not a mistake
too. Normally city driving I get around 24 mile/gal.

Off topic, I noticed many times, the large pickup trucks moved over to
the right lane only to let the prius, focus or honda civics pass them
(guessing they were doing around 75mph or so).

Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-06-2005 08:09 AM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
In article <4dvqh1pinsv24o2bu5vb004dpq8gsd9034@4ax.com>, Rob wrote:

> Just thought this gas mileage story might be worth noting for some
> Honda Accord buyers.
>
> I just took my first long ride with this car this past weekend from
> Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas and back. I used cruise control 99
> percent of the time and had 2 adults, 2 teenagers and baggage and air
> conditioning 100 percent of the time. I locked in the cruise control
> at about 66 or 67 mph (speed limit said 70) and just stayed mostly in
> the right lane to allow cars/trucks to pass me. Most of the trip is
> hilly terrain and weather was sunny and warm and not much wind. Car
> is in excellent shape.
>
> I was concerned that gas stations would be closed based on news
> reports earlier so I wanted to be sure to do this trip on one tank of
> gas tho it turned out gas stations were open. I calculated I got 37.5
> mile/gal and I was totally surprised. I'm sure it's not a mistake
> too.


Not a mistake at all. I had a 2000 Accord 5 speed; in the summer, A/C
on, going through the mountains, I got 35mpg.


jmattis@attglobal.net 09-06-2005 10:59 AM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
The car is rated for 34, and the government highway test is more
demanding than just cruising endlessly at a steady speed. So, your
results are not unexpected.


BE 09-06-2005 02:03 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
On 9/6/05 7:09 AM, in article
elmop-90F473.08094306092005@nntp2.usenetserver.com, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <4dvqh1pinsv24o2bu5vb004dpq8gsd9034@4ax.com>, Rob wrote:
>
>> Just thought this gas mileage story might be worth noting for some
>> Honda Accord buyers.
>>
>> I just took my first long ride with this car this past weekend from
>> Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas and back. I used cruise control 99
>> percent of the time and had 2 adults, 2 teenagers and baggage and air
>> conditioning 100 percent of the time. I locked in the cruise control
>> at about 66 or 67 mph (speed limit said 70) and just stayed mostly in
>> the right lane to allow cars/trucks to pass me. Most of the trip is
>> hilly terrain and weather was sunny and warm and not much wind. Car
>> is in excellent shape.
>>
>> I was concerned that gas stations would be closed based on news
>> reports earlier so I wanted to be sure to do this trip on one tank of
>> gas tho it turned out gas stations were open. I calculated I got 37.5
>> mile/gal and I was totally surprised. I'm sure it's not a mistake
>> too.

>
> Not a mistake at all. I had a 2000 Accord 5 speed; in the summer, A/C
> on, going through the mountains, I got 35mpg.
>

I don't own an Accord; I own a 2001 Odyssey. On one leg of a return trip
several years ago from the Northeastern US (back to Dallas), with four
passengers and quite a bit of luggage and camping cargo in the back, I
somehow managed to get 28 mpg.

This with the 3.5 liter V6 Acura engine, A/C going full bore, and driving
mostly around 80 mph.

I will grant that heading toward Dallas from where we were was aiding us
with a gentle decrease in elevation, but still, I was wowed.

Be


Paul 09-06-2005 09:26 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 

"BE" <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:BF43440A.379E1%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net.. .
: On 9/6/05 7:09 AM, in article
: elmop-90F473.08094306092005@nntp2.usenetserver.com, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
: <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
:
: > In article <4dvqh1pinsv24o2bu5vb004dpq8gsd9034@4ax.com>, Rob wrote:
: >
: >> Just thought this gas mileage story might be worth noting for some
: >> Honda Accord buyers.
: >>
: >> I just took my first long ride with this car this past weekend from
: >> Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas and back. I used cruise control 99
: >> percent of the time and had 2 adults, 2 teenagers and baggage and air
: >> conditioning 100 percent of the time. I locked in the cruise control
: >> at about 66 or 67 mph (speed limit said 70) and just stayed mostly in
: >> the right lane to allow cars/trucks to pass me. Most of the trip is
: >> hilly terrain and weather was sunny and warm and not much wind. Car
: >> is in excellent shape.
: >>
: >> I was concerned that gas stations would be closed based on news
: >> reports earlier so I wanted to be sure to do this trip on one tank of
: >> gas tho it turned out gas stations were open. I calculated I got 37.5
: >> mile/gal and I was totally surprised. I'm sure it's not a mistake
: >> too.
: >
: > Not a mistake at all. I had a 2000 Accord 5 speed; in the summer, A/C
: > on, going through the mountains, I got 35mpg.
: >
: I don't own an Accord; I own a 2001 Odyssey. On one leg of a return trip
: several years ago from the Northeastern US (back to Dallas), with four
: passengers and quite a bit of luggage and camping cargo in the back, I
: somehow managed to get 28 mpg.
:
: This with the 3.5 liter V6 Acura engine, A/C going full bore, and driving
: mostly around 80 mph.
:
: I will grant that heading toward Dallas from where we were was aiding us
: with a gentle decrease in elevation, but still, I was wowed.
:
: Be

I once got more than 29 mpg in my '01 Ody, on a 345-mile leg of a trip
between Atlanta and Houston. True, it was over flat terrain, mostly without
the A/C (it was December), and at an average speed a bit lower than my usual
75 or so, but I did have two adults and a child in the van, plus a lot of
stuff. Even given a little margin for error in the refueling process, I was
impressed.

Around town? Usually about 16 to 18 mpg, unfortunately.

Paul



Bob Palmer 09-06-2005 09:27 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
> I don't own an Accord; I own a 2001 Odyssey. On one leg of a return trip
> several years ago from the Northeastern US (back to Dallas), with four
> passengers and quite a bit of luggage and camping cargo in the back, I
> somehow managed to get 28 mpg.
>
> This with the 3.5 liter V6 Acura engine, A/C going full bore, and driving
> mostly around 80 mph.
>
> I will grant that heading toward Dallas from where we were was aiding us
> with a gentle decrease in elevation, but still, I was wowed.

We have a 2000 Honda Odyssey EX and on our trips from Boston to Gettysburg
numerous times we've averaged 33 mpg with premium gas. 3.5L V6 205 HP (210
HP with premium)




jmattis@attglobal.net 09-07-2005 09:54 AM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
On one leg of a return trip
> several years ago from the Northeastern US (back to Dallas), with four
> passengers and quite a bit of luggage and camping cargo in the back, I
> somehow managed to get 28 mpg.
>
> This with the 3.5 liter V6 Acura engine, A/C going full bore, and driving
> mostly around 80 mph.



A small tailwind can make a big improvement in mpg. A small headwind
can take a pretty good toll as well.


jdhoward@helps.com 09-07-2005 12:39 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
I have a 2003 Honda Accord 4 cylinder with manual transmission. I find that
at 50 MPH, 2000 RPM in 5th gear, I get the best gas mileage. On a trip
from Canton, TX, home of the BIG Flea Market, to Austin, TX, I averaged
more than 50 MPG. On a short trip on IH 35 from San Antonio to Austin,
it averaged more than 50 MPG. To get that economy, I use no air
conditioning, no cruise control and use the built-in navigation system
computer to show me the instantaneous gas mileage number. I find that
seeing the gas mileage number in real-time helps me drive for highest
economy with little effort. Unless the highway is totally flat, the
cruise control does not drive as economically as I can. I routinely
get more than 45 MPG on the highway.

Using the air conditioning, using the cruise control and driving faster
that 50 MPH drops the economy to 36-38 MPG. I always use the lowest
priced grade of gasoline.

In town economy depends on the time of day. Non-peak time driving can
yield as much as 32 MPG. That is a achieved by coasting when possible.
Typically in Austin, during peak traffic times, the number is only
26-28 MPG.

This Honda was bought new and has been driven over 60,000 miles. No
repairs have been needed yet. I change the oil every four months with
Castrol 5W20, clean the leather, wash and wax the paint and that is all.

---
James D. Howard Austin TX USA jdhoward@helps.com


High Tech Misfit 09-07-2005 12:59 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
jdhoward@helps.com wrote:

> I have a 2003 Honda Accord 4 cylinder with manual transmission. I find that
> at 50 MPH, 2000 RPM in 5th gear, I get the best gas mileage. On a trip
> from Canton, TX, home of the BIG Flea Market, to Austin, TX, I averaged
> more than 50 MPG. On a short trip on IH 35 from San Antonio to Austin,
> it averaged more than 50 MPG.


Is that imperial gallons or U.S. gallons?

Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-07-2005 01:11 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
In article <4nh3v2-pso.ln1@new.helps.com>, jdhoward@helps.com wrote:

> To get that economy, I use no air
> conditioning, no cruise control


ahem. Your BEST mileage will be when using cruise control.


Ralph 09-07-2005 01:46 PM

Honda CR-V rotor lifespan
 
The dealership says my sister's rotors must be replaced 'because they're
rusting'.

The CR-V has 60,000 km on it. Is this normal wear?

Your expert opinion is invited... thanks, Jack.



Elle 09-07-2005 02:05 PM

Re: Honda CR-V rotor lifespan
 
Ha. Rust on the brake rotors' circumferences by itself are not detrimental
to the rotor's operation and is expected.

Ask them about the rotor's thickness and thickness variation, for starters.
Did they measure it? What's the spec? Make them elaborate a lot more than
they are simply "rusted."

60k km is ridiculously early for a rotor to ordinarily need replacement.

My 91 Civic is on its original rotors after 270k km. Granted, I do a lot of
engine braking, and one rotor is a bit scored. The thickness is great,
though, and I expect them to last the life of the car (like five more
years).

Others will post...

"Ralph" <nospam@thanks.com> wrote
> The dealership says my sister's rotors must be replaced 'because they're
> rusting'.
>
> The CR-V has 60,000 km on it. Is this normal wear?
>
> Your expert opinion is invited... thanks, Jack.




Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-07-2005 02:17 PM

Re: Honda CR-V rotor lifespan
 
In article <431f2795$1_1@news.cybersurf.net>,
"Ralph" <nospam@thanks.com> wrote:

> The dealership says my sister's rotors must be replaced 'because they're
> rusting'.
>
> The CR-V has 60,000 km on it. Is this normal wear?


Rotors are iron.

They rust.

Do this: let the car sit in damp weather for a weekend. Go out and
look at the rotors.

Drive the car. Listen to the brakes for the first few stops. That's
the sound of the rust grinding off.

Perfectly normal.


Joe-46er 09-07-2005 05:34 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Accord 4 cyl gas mileage on the highway
 
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:11:41 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <4nh3v2-pso.ln1@new.helps.com>, jdhoward@helps.com wrote:
>
>> To get that economy, I use no air
>> conditioning, no cruise control

>
>ahem. Your BEST mileage will be when using cruise control.




50 mpg. Somebody's in la-la land.



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Abeness 09-07-2005 07:08 PM

Re: Honda CR-V rotor lifespan
 
Ralph wrote:
> The dealership says my sister's rotors must be replaced 'because they're
> rusting'.


Hah hah. Potamkin in NYC, by any chance? Or another crook? They said
that about mine (94 Civic), too, and when I got a look at them I
laughed. Not in the guy's face--though I should have--because I was
standing there with the seller and it was a pre-purchase checkup, but I
did laugh privately later... (with the seller cuz I'm an honest guy)

Elle and Elmo are right on.

Abe


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