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scott 09-20-2008 01:19 PM

2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
Hey everyone,

I have a 2003 Honda Odyssey that is having some problems with the tranny.
Driving along and the rpm will ramp up 2-3 thousand and stay like that for a
few seconds before returning to normal. While it is ramping up the car feels
like the tranny is not engaged until the rpm comes down and then everything
is fine. This problem does not happen all the time just every once in the
while. I would think if it were the tranny failing it would happen more
often.

Any ideas as to what might be causing this?

Thanks,

Scott..



Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-20-2008 04:07 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
In article <dgaBk.473$tp1.111@newsfe06.iad>, "scott" <nope@haha.com>
wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I have a 2003 Honda Odyssey that is having some problems with the tranny.
> Driving along and the rpm will ramp up 2-3 thousand and stay like that for a
> few seconds before returning to normal. While it is ramping up the car feels
> like the tranny is not engaged until the rpm comes down and then everything
> is fine. This problem does not happen all the time just every once in the
> while. I would think if it were the tranny failing it would happen more
> often.
>
> Any ideas as to what might be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott..


http://www.odyclub.com is your friend.

You, sir, are a victim of Honda's beancounters--the ones who overrode
Honda engineers and ended up selling you a piece of transmission.

dka@wowway.com 09-28-2008 08:53 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:19:05 -0400, "scott" <nope@haha.com> wrote:

>Hey everyone,
>
>I have a 2003 Honda Odyssey that is having some problems with the tranny.
>Driving along and the rpm will ramp up 2-3 thousand and stay like that for a
>few seconds before returning to normal. While it is ramping up the car feels
>like the tranny is not engaged until the rpm comes down and then everything
>is fine. This problem does not happen all the time just every once in the
>while. I would think if it were the tranny failing it would happen more
>often.
>
>Any ideas as to what might be causing this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott..
>

I have a 2001 and just had my 3rd. tranny installed at 117K.
We were 900 miles away from home on vacation when it went out and it
only cost me $1,700, they only made me pay for the labor this
time!!!!!

It cost me a week of car rental, and several extra days of hotel (With
my IN-LAWS) while they shipped in the new tranny. You would think as
many of these as go bad they would keep one in stock. They wouldn't
even order it until I came in and put $500 down.

After I picked it up we headed back home, and I noticed that the
steering wheel was way off. I found out that the dealer that did the
repair

Hall Honda 3516 Virginia Beach Blvd, Virginia Beach - (866) 963-4642

did not realign the front end after they put the new tranny in.
I had to get that done, at my expense, after I got home.

enjoy your ride....
dka

Dupcia ;P 10-08-2008 07:52 AM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
good morning!
I have honda civic cupe 1.6 vti 1992r.
i selling autos bay 100000000 $



Jeff 10-08-2008 04:55 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
On Oct 8, 7:52 am, "Dupcia ;P" <ty...@lol.pl> wrote:
> good morning!
> I havehondacivic cupe 1.6 vti 1992r.
> i selling autos bay 100000000 $


Ummmm, sorry, I'll pass.

I know where I can get a mint "cupe" for only 98,000,000 $ because I'm
friends with the dealer.


rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com 10-15-2008 09:14 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
On Sep 20, 1:19 pm, "scott" <n...@haha.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I have a 2003 Honda Odyssey that is having some problems with the tranny.
> Driving along and the rpm will ramp up 2-3 thousand and stay like that for a
> few seconds before returning to normal. While it is ramping up the car feels
> like the tranny is not engaged until the rpm comes down and then everything
> is fine. This problem does not happen all the time just every once in the
> while. I would think if it were the tranny failing it would happen more
> often.
>
> Any ideas as to what might be causing this?


Yes, the transmission is slipping, and will likely need replacement.
What you describe are classic textbook symptoms.

The '03 Hondas apparently had a spate of auto transmission failures.
I don't mean to be the harbinger of bad news, but it's a fact. I had
this problem with my BMW a few years back, so I feel your
annoyance. I had to cough up nearly 4 grand for a new-rebuilt
trannie. BMW also has a history of auto trannie failures.


>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott..



Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-15-2008 09:54 PM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
In article
<6e154d08-e299-4835-9d4f-f7d116764e09@e2g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com wrote:

> The '03 Hondas apparently had a spate of auto transmission failures.


Every auto trans hooked to a Honda V6 engine made between 1998 model
year and mid-2004 model year had problems.

My God, they even changed from a 4 speed to a 5 speed trans in 2002
model year, and they STILL ed it up.

Honda was run by beancounters for some period of time, and that huge
mistake revealed itself in Honda's most complex powertrain: the V6/auto
trans combination.

jim beam 10-18-2008 10:37 AM

Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey tranny porblem, help??
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article
> <6e154d08-e299-4835-9d4f-f7d116764e09@e2g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> The '03 Hondas apparently had a spate of auto transmission failures.

>
> Every auto trans hooked to a Honda V6 engine made between 1998 model
> year and mid-2004 model year had problems.
>
> My God, they even changed from a 4 speed to a 5 speed trans in 2002
> model year, and they STILL ed it up.
>
> Honda was run by beancounters for some period of time, and that huge
> mistake revealed itself in Honda's most complex powertrain: the V6/auto
> trans combination.


i don't know this for fact because i haven't had the opportunity to
slice stuff up and put it under the microscope, but i wonder whether
honda may have adopted a different [bean counter driven] gear cog
manufacturing technique. in the old days, you'd machine a cog blank,
cut the teeth, carburize it to case harden the teeth to give them wear
resistance, then perform a final machining operation post carburization
to ensure fit and tolerance. that machining is expensive because the
teeth are almost as hard as glass. and those cogs are the ones that
will take your honda to 300k, 500k, and beyond.

these days, i wonder if the trend is to machine cogs from a different
kind of heat-treatable steel. /much/ cheaper than carburizing. trouble
would be though, the product doesn't have the same surface hardness, so
it's going to wear, and thus produce swarf. and we are seeing a bunch
of honda transmissions with blocked atf filters.

if anyone knows different of course, that's a different matter, but i'm
basing my speculation on examination of some driveshaft knuckles i
dissected over the summer. from the honda supplier, the materials were
carburized. from another [reputable] supplier, visibly heat treated.
the difference in surface hardness was remarkable - for the carburized
component, a spring loaded indenter merely blunted itself. for the heat
treated, the indenter left a good solid mark. i think the implications
for wear to be obvious.

confirmation of the facts gratefully received.





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