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Jonathan 07-04-2004 02:45 PM

2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has like zero fade...
There is no intermediate range in it, it is almost as if it is either
engaged or out, no in between... Anyone else notice this? I have driven
three EX's and they are all the same (I also have a an older LX with a
stick, and its clutch is normal)...

Is this a performance clutch? Or is it unique to Honda?



Jonathan



jack 07-04-2004 05:29 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 

"Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
> I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has

I noticed this when I test drove one. If you try and let the pedal out
slowly you will burn the clutch over time. This is what they call a dead man
clutch. Someone not used to this car will burn the clutch in no time.



Jonathan 07-04-2004 05:39 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 

"jack" <goose1@cox-in.com> wrote in message
news:10egtl3e8ve8k6d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
> > I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has

> I noticed this when I test drove one. If you try and let the pedal out
> slowly you will burn the clutch over time. This is what they call a dead

man
> clutch. Someone not used to this car will burn the clutch in no time.
>


You usually find those in lawn mowers...

Actually, after driving it a bit, I am noticing it does have a sweet spot,
it is just very short...

However, the car has a 7 year/75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, so I am
not too worried...




Jonathan



L Alpert 07-04-2004 07:14 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
Jonathan wrote:
> "jack" <goose1@cox-in.com> wrote in message
> news:10egtl3e8ve8k6d@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
>>> I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has

>> I noticed this when I test drove one. If you try and let the pedal
>> out slowly you will burn the clutch over time. This is what they
>> call a dead man clutch. Someone not used to this car will burn the
>> clutch in no time.
>>

>
> You usually find those in lawn mowers...
>
> Actually, after driving it a bit, I am noticing it does have a sweet
> spot, it is just very short...
>
> However, the car has a 7 year/75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty,
> so I am not too worried...
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan


Check the warranty exclusions for the clutch parts....



G-Man 07-04-2004 08:09 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
>
> However, the car has a 7 year/75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, so I

am
> not too worried...
>

I guarantee it does not cover the clutch, brakes, or any other wear item.

G-Man



jack 07-05-2004 10:13 AM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 

"Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
> I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has like zero

fade...
you are right it does not cover the clutch.



L Alpert 07-05-2004 11:22 AM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
jack wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
>> I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has like zero

> fade...
> you are right it does not cover the clutch.


Take it back and complain. With a minimum amount of miles on it, it should
not wear out, or if it just needs proper adjustment. Dealers do not like it
when one complains loudly in a busy showroom.



Jonathan 07-05-2004 01:52 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:NmeGc.12154$JR4.4478@attbi_s54...
> jack wrote:
> > "Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
> >> I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has like zero

> > fade...
> > you are right it does not cover the clutch.

>
> Take it back and complain. With a minimum amount of miles on it, it should
> not wear out, or if it just needs proper adjustment. Dealers do not like

it
> when one complains loudly in a busy showroom.
>


Nor do they like it when you contact American Honda and complain...



Jonathan



Jonathan 07-05-2004 03:20 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 

"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10eh6prke3r1jbd@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > However, the car has a 7 year/75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, so

I
> am
> > not too worried...
> >

> I guarantee it does not cover the clutch, brakes, or any other wear item.
>


It covers the breaks in detail, but doesn't cover rotors and pads... IOW,
wear items...

The Clutch itself is not a wear item, but the clutch discs/pad, bushings,
etc are... If the clutch itself fries, it would be covered...

Generally, the exclusions only include expendable items like bulbs, pads,
fuses, etc... It does not include major subcomponents, like the clutch
itself...


Jonathan



Bubba 07-05-2004 03:37 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
If you 'burn out' the clutch by riding it or abusing it, not only is the
clutch disc not covered, but the labor to R&R as well as refacing the
pressure plate & flywheel, as necessary, will be at your expense as well.
I'd be careful about guesstimating what is covered and what isn't. Most
"wear items" aren't covered and damage caused to other components by these
wear items isn't covered either nor is the labor.

However, if the clutch is defective in manufacture or function, as it
sounds may be your case, then yes, the entire job should be covered.


In article <NRhGc.19097801$Of.3166254@news.easynews.com> "Jonathan"
<jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> writes:

>
>"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:10eh6prke3r1jbd@news.supernews.com...
>> >
>> > However, the car has a 7 year/75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, so

>I
>> am
>> > not too worried...
>> >

>> I guarantee it does not cover the clutch, brakes, or any other wear item.
>>

>
>It covers the breaks in detail, but doesn't cover rotors and pads... IOW,
>wear items...
>
>The Clutch itself is not a wear item, but the clutch discs/pad, bushings,
>etc are... If the clutch itself fries, it would be covered...
>
>Generally, the exclusions only include expendable items like bulbs, pads,
>fuses, etc... It does not include major subcomponents, like the clutch
>itself...
>
>
>Jonathan
>


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L Alpert 07-06-2004 09:20 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
Jonathan wrote:
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:NmeGc.12154$JR4.4478@attbi_s54...
>> jack wrote:
>>> "Jonathan" <jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MeYFc.2824$ef4.190@news.easynews.com...
>>>> I just bought an EX V-6... and the clutch is weird, it has like
>>>> zero
>>> fade...
>>> you are right it does not cover the clutch.

>>
>> Take it back and complain. With a minimum amount of miles on it, it
>> should not wear out, or if it just needs proper adjustment. Dealers
>> do not like it when one complains loudly in a busy showroom.
>>

>
> Nor do they like it when you contact American Honda and complain...
>
>
>
> Jonathan


Yes. All "excellent" replies on the questionnaire...



Chip Stein 07-07-2004 10:36 PM

Re: 2004 Accord EX V-6 Coupe clutch wierdness...
 
> >> Take it back and complain. With a minimum amount of miles on it, it
> >> should not wear out, or if it just needs proper adjustment. Dealers
> >> do not like it when one complains loudly in a busy showroom.
> >>

> >
> > Nor do they like it when you contact American Honda and complain...




don't do either. it's a self adjusting clutch with a dual mass
flywheel. that's the way they work, people wanted performance, honda
gave it to us. It's the way it works.
i did see one idiot burn one up in 600 miles. that one cost him
dearly. clutch discs aren't covered, and the fact that he drove it
long enough to ruin the flywheeel and pressure plate was even worse.
Chip


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