Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

"Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bAGCb.70870$nb5.9692@newssvr25.news.prodigy.c om:

> They used to have power on demand steering. It was great since it gave
> you more feel for the road. Although it's in the design, I would
> contact corporate just to let them know for a suggestion, they should
> have kept the old power on demand system.
>

One way I characterize this issue is that it appears that power steering is
on all the time...from what you say...it is...is that true?

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

"Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bAGCb.70870$nb5.9692@newssvr25.news.prodigy.c om:

> They used to have power on demand steering. It was great since it gave
> you more feel for the road. Although it's in the design, I would
> contact corporate just to let them know for a suggestion, they should
> have kept the old power on demand system.
>

One way I characterize this issue is that it appears that power steering is
on all the time...from what you say...it is...is that true?

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

Daryl Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165 :

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to
> me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the
> dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and
> they straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can
> brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes
> straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Anyone with a 2003/2004 feel the steering is a bit too sensitive? My
> old vehicle (junker) tended to require constant oversteering to hold a
> line so maybe it's me. The odd thing is, if I take my hands off the
> wheel, it does track straight.
>
> It's real bad when it's real windy with gusts...I expect wind to
> affect the car a bit, but this seems too much.
>
> I religiously monitor tire pressure (checked once a week)...when I got
> the car the tires were all 35...dropped to 32F/30R per manual and it
> tightened it up a bit.
>
> The local Acura dealer does good alignments...I'll give them a shot
> after the new year I guess...
>

www.vtec.net Accord forum actually has quite a few posts about this exact
issue. I'm still going to get another alignment, but this may be "normal".

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

Daryl Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165 :

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to
> me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the
> dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and
> they straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can
> brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes
> straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Anyone with a 2003/2004 feel the steering is a bit too sensitive? My
> old vehicle (junker) tended to require constant oversteering to hold a
> line so maybe it's me. The odd thing is, if I take my hands off the
> wheel, it does track straight.
>
> It's real bad when it's real windy with gusts...I expect wind to
> affect the car a bit, but this seems too much.
>
> I religiously monitor tire pressure (checked once a week)...when I got
> the car the tires were all 35...dropped to 32F/30R per manual and it
> tightened it up a bit.
>
> The local Acura dealer does good alignments...I'll give them a shot
> after the new year I guess...
>

www.vtec.net Accord forum actually has quite a few posts about this exact
issue. I'm still going to get another alignment, but this may be "normal".

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

Daryl Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165 :

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to
> me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the
> dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and
> they straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can
> brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes
> straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Anyone with a 2003/2004 feel the steering is a bit too sensitive? My
> old vehicle (junker) tended to require constant oversteering to hold a
> line so maybe it's me. The odd thing is, if I take my hands off the
> wheel, it does track straight.
>
> It's real bad when it's real windy with gusts...I expect wind to
> affect the car a bit, but this seems too much.
>
> I religiously monitor tire pressure (checked once a week)...when I got
> the car the tires were all 35...dropped to 32F/30R per manual and it
> tightened it up a bit.
>
> The local Acura dealer does good alignments...I'll give them a shot
> after the new year I guess...
>

www.vtec.net Accord forum actually has quite a few posts about this exact
issue. I'm still going to get another alignment, but this may be "normal".

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

Daryl Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165 :

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to
> me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the
> dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and
> they straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can
> brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes
> straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Anyone with a 2003/2004 feel the steering is a bit too sensitive? My
> old vehicle (junker) tended to require constant oversteering to hold a
> line so maybe it's me. The odd thing is, if I take my hands off the
> wheel, it does track straight.
>
> It's real bad when it's real windy with gusts...I expect wind to
> affect the car a bit, but this seems too much.
>
> I religiously monitor tire pressure (checked once a week)...when I got
> the car the tires were all 35...dropped to 32F/30R per manual and it
> tightened it up a bit.
>
> The local Acura dealer does good alignments...I'll give them a shot
> after the new year I guess...
>

www.vtec.net Accord forum actually has quite a few posts about this exact
issue. I'm still going to get another alignment, but this may be "normal".

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl Herkin
<dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to me
> at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the dealer
> to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and they
> straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can brake hard at
> 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes straight (this was
> horrifying!).

Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early) seemed
to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not OEM) did
the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was crazy. I was not
a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87, which has speed
sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel, seems twitchy.

I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.

Try a rotation.

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl Herkin
<dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to me
> at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the dealer
> to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and they
> straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can brake hard at
> 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes straight (this was
> horrifying!).

Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early) seemed
to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not OEM) did
the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was crazy. I was not
a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87, which has speed
sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel, seems twitchy.

I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.

Try a rotation.

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl Herkin
<dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to me
> at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the dealer
> to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and they
> straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can brake hard at
> 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes straight (this was
> horrifying!).

Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early) seemed
to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not OEM) did
the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was crazy. I was not
a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87, which has speed
sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel, seems twitchy.

I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.

Try a rotation.

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl Herkin
<dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy to me
> at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to the dealer
> to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on this
> vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within specs) and they
> straightened it up. This did improve things somewhat...I can brake hard at
> 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any more...it brakes straight (this was
> horrifying!).

Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early) seemed
to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not OEM) did
the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was crazy. I was not
a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87, which has speed
sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel, seems twitchy.

I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.

Try a rotation.

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

hern@wcnet.org (Thomas Hern) wrote in
news:hern-1412032248310001@dial-bu-184-069.wcnet.org:

> In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl
> Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy
>> to me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to
>> the dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on
>> this vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within
>> specs) and they straightened it up. This did improve things
>> somewhat...I can brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any
>> more...it brakes straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early)
> seemed to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not
> OEM) did the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was
> crazy. I was not a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87,
> which has speed sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel,
> seems twitchy.
>
> I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.
>
> Try a rotation.

It's 20 degrees here :)

I'll try a rotation when it warms up a bit!

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

hern@wcnet.org (Thomas Hern) wrote in
news:hern-1412032248310001@dial-bu-184-069.wcnet.org:

> In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl
> Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy
>> to me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to
>> the dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on
>> this vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within
>> specs) and they straightened it up. This did improve things
>> somewhat...I can brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any
>> more...it brakes straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early)
> seemed to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not
> OEM) did the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was
> crazy. I was not a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87,
> which has speed sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel,
> seems twitchy.
>
> I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.
>
> Try a rotation.

It's 20 degrees here :)

I'll try a rotation when it warms up a bit!

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

hern@wcnet.org (Thomas Hern) wrote in
news:hern-1412032248310001@dial-bu-184-069.wcnet.org:

> In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl
> Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy
>> to me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to
>> the dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on
>> this vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within
>> specs) and they straightened it up. This did improve things
>> somewhat...I can brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any
>> more...it brakes straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early)
> seemed to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not
> OEM) did the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was
> crazy. I was not a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87,
> which has speed sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel,
> seems twitchy.
>
> I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.
>
> Try a rotation.

It's 20 degrees here :)

I'll try a rotation when it warms up a bit!

Re: 2004 Accord...steering issue...too loose?
 

hern@wcnet.org (Thomas Hern) wrote in
news:hern-1412032248310001@dial-bu-184-069.wcnet.org:

> In article <Xns944FEB309CA37dherkinhotmailcom@24.24.2.165>, Daryl
> Herkin <dherkin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an EX manual 4-door sedan. This car appears way too twitchy
>> to me at highway speeds (feels too loose). I did complain enough to
>> the dealer to get them to do an alignment (only toe is adjustable on
>> this vehicle)...they said it was toed in a bit (but still within
>> specs) and they straightened it up. This did improve things
>> somewhat...I can brake hard at 80mph and it doesn't squirm around any
>> more...it brakes straight (this was horrifying!).
>
> Had a similar problem with 98 Accord. A tire rotation (done early)
> seemed to have most effect. Alignment helped too. But new tires (not
> OEM) did the most. Dealer and Honda just looked at me like I was
> crazy. I was not a happy camper. But then I was comparing to my 87,
> which has speed sensitive steering. Still seems to lack road feel,
> seems twitchy.
>
> I think I had a bad tire. Slipping belt? Maybe 2.
>
> Try a rotation.

It's 20 degrees here :)

I'll try a rotation when it warms up a bit!