2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles.
I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
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"bob m" <please@noemail.com> wrote: > 1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles. > > I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small > drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect > a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque > steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have > thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. > > Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to > ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... There is and has been a service bulletin out on this since 2002. My 02 had it. There's a procedure for shifting the subframe; it involves new bolts. Since this is brand new, why don't you simply go to your dealer service department and tell them to fix it? It could be just an alignment issue, too. |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
In article <cWSoc.638$rk4.439@fe39.usenetserver.com>, "bob m"
<please@noemail.com> wrote: > 1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles. > > I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small > drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect > a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque > steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have > thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. > > Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to > ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... You should keep an eye on your front tires. If they are badly worn on one side, it usually means that you have a serious alignment problem. I suggest that you have the tires aligned during your next service. It's difficult to correct alignment problems without the proper equipment. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIPERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
bob m wrote: > 1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles. > > I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small > drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect > a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque > steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have > thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. > > Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to > ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... Not all cars come out of the factory with alignment in spec. Even if they do, transportation can bring it out of alignment. I bought a new car this year, and decided to buy a lifetime alignment with less than 1000 miles on the odo. It wasn't in spec, and the technician told me that a lot of new cars aren't in spec. I just got a lifetime alignment at a Firestone shop for $160. With a previous lifetime alignment on another car, I never got pressured to do other "services". They did recommend I replace my nearly bald tires, but I already knew that. |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
"bob m" <please@noemail.com> wrote in message news:cWSoc.638$rk4.439@fe39.usenetserver.com... > 1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles. > > I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small > drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect > a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque > steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have > thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. > > Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to > ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... > This is not normal and you should have a dealer fix it under warranty. John |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
"y_p_w" <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:nzVoc.19417$Hs1.10459@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net... : : <snip> : : Not all cars come out of the factory with alignment in spec. Even if : they do, transportation can bring it out of alignment. I bought a new : car this year, and decided to buy a lifetime alignment with less than : 1000 miles on the odo. It wasn't in spec, and the technician told me : that a lot of new cars aren't in spec. : Last time I had my '00 Accord aligned, they gave me a printout of the alignment values (camber, caster, I don't know what all). Some of them were accompanied by the notation that they were out of spec AFTER the alignment. The shop told me that some cars are out of spec coming from the factory and can't be adjusted sufficiently to bring them within spec. I found that a litttle disturbing, but I can't really complain -- my original tires are wearing evenly and are still in decent shape after 53,000 miles. Paul |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
This is an excerpt from a Honda Service News Article from September of '03.
I have included just the decision points, your dealer will use to evaluate your complaint. I suggest you perform this simple test before going to the dealer. Drifting and Pulling at Highway Speeds 1. Set the tire pressures to the recommended cold inflation values listed on the doorjamb sticker. 2. Find a straight stretch of 4-lane road where you can safely (and legally) go 60 mph for several minutes. Ideally, you want a road that’s perfectly flat, but most roads have a crown that’s anywhere from 1.5° to 1.75° so they can drain. • Flat Road - While driving at 60 mph, use a stopwatch to time how long it takes to drift one full lane from center to center. Record the time. Repeat this, driving in the opposite direction to cancel the effects of wind, then average the two times you recorded. If the vehicle drifts one full lane from center to center in less than 6 seconds, go to step 4. If not, return the vehicle to your customer. • Crowned Road - While driving at 60 mph, check if the vehicle climbs the crown. Do this for both a left- and right-crowned road. A drift to the right on a right-crowned road and a drift to the left on a left-crowned road are considered normal. If the vehicle climbs the crown or it drifts to the right on a left- crowned road, go to step 4. bob m wrote: > 1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles. > > I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small > drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect > a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque > steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have > thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. > > Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to > ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... -- Tp, -------- __o ----- -\<. -------- __o --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\<. -------------------- ( )/ ( ) ----------------------------------------- No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron... |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
Thanks for this info. Will test when I get a chance - I think it's probably
more than 6 seconds though. I would say however, that it does climb crowns to the left. The verbage below seems a bit confusing - I would think that a drift to the left on a left crowned road would be the equivalent of saying it climbs the crown - and not normal. In a parking lot, I noticed that the 'return' to straight from turning right goes much faster than the 'return' to straight from turning left. In other words, at just a couple of miles an hour, there is a tendency to want to 'stay' left if already turned that way. "TomP" <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message news:40A62B0D.82BCC34D@socal.rr.com... > This is an excerpt from a Honda Service News Article from September of '03. > I have included just the decision points, your dealer will use to evaluate your > complaint. I suggest you perform this simple test before going to the dealer. > > > Drifting and Pulling at Highway Speeds > > > 1. Set the tire pressures to the recommended > cold inflation values listed on the doorjamb > sticker. > 2. Find a straight stretch of 4-lane road where > you can safely (and legally) go 60 mph for > several minutes. Ideally, you want a road that's > perfectly flat, but most roads have a crown > that's anywhere from 1.5° to 1.75° so they can > drain. > . Flat Road - While driving at 60 mph, use a > stopwatch to time how long it takes to drift > one full lane from center to center. Record > the time. Repeat this, driving in the opposite > direction to cancel the effects of wind, then > average the two times you recorded. If the > vehicle drifts one full lane from center to > center in less than 6 seconds, go to step 4. > If not, return the vehicle to your customer. > . Crowned Road - While driving at 60 mph, > check if the vehicle climbs the crown. Do > this for both a left- and right-crowned road. > A drift to the right on a right-crowned road > and a drift to the left on a left-crowned road > are considered normal. If the vehicle climbs > the crown or it drifts to the right on a left- > crowned road, go to step 4. > > > > > bob m wrote: > > > 1.5 month old odyssey, only 1500 miles. > > > > I notice a very slight pull to the left (so slight, I might call it a small > > drift), when going along at highway speeds on good roads. I normally expect > > a little drift away from the crown of the road. Is there some small torque > > steer going on from just maintaining speed at 65 mph or so? I would have > > thought that only occurred under acceleration, not at steady state. > > > > Anyone with similar results? Is it worth having it looked at? My gut is to > > ignore it - and not let the dealer mess it up more... > > -- > Tp, > > -------- __o > ----- -\<. -------- __o > --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\<. > -------------------- ( )/ ( ) > ----------------------------------------- > > No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron... > > |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
"bob m" <please@noemail.com> wrote in message news:qIrpc.3760$UY4.1785@fe39.usenetserver.com... > Thanks for this info. Will test when I get a chance - I think it's probably > more than 6 seconds though. I would say however, that it does climb crowns > to the left. The verbage below seems a bit confusing - I would think that a > drift to the left on a left crowned road would be the equivalent of saying > it climbs the crown - and not normal. > > In a parking lot, I noticed that the 'return' to straight from turning right > goes much faster than the 'return' to straight from turning left. In other > words, at just a couple of miles an hour, there is a tendency to want to > 'stay' left if already turned that way. Certainly check the alignment. I would also check for a dragging brake shoe. We have a non-Honda vehicle which had a persistent slight pull to the right which could not be corrected with alignment. It turned out that one of the front right brake pads had a slight ridge on the metal backing which hung up a little on the caliper ... just enough to cause a slight and variable drift to that side. Alignment. Tires. Brakes. Steering rack. These are the things which can cause pulling to one side or the other. John |
Re: 2004 odyssey wheel alignment question
The wear on the tires after only 1500 miles would not be noticeable.
> You should keep an eye on your front tires. If they are badly worn on one > side, it usually means that you have a serious alignment problem. I > suggest that you have the tires aligned during your next service. It's > difficult to correct alignment problems without the proper equipment. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIPERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
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