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- Bob - 09-13-2006 12:32 PM

2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?

Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
"normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
are fixing.

Thanks,


'Curly Q. Links' 09-13-2006 02:02 PM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
- Bob - wrote:
>
> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>
> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
> are fixing.
>
> Thanks,


-------------------------------------

If they are wearing worse on one side than the other, the sliders are
not properly lubed (from new).

Sign in search. Lots of good stuff already covered.

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=rotor+warped

Tegger.com also has good materials about this problem.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 09-13-2006 02:02 PM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
- Bob - wrote:
>
> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>
> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
> are fixing.
>
> Thanks,


-------------------------------------

If they are wearing worse on one side than the other, the sliders are
not properly lubed (from new).

Sign in search. Lots of good stuff already covered.

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=rotor+warped

Tegger.com also has good materials about this problem.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 09-13-2006 02:02 PM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
- Bob - wrote:
>
> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>
> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
> are fixing.
>
> Thanks,


-------------------------------------

If they are wearing worse on one side than the other, the sliders are
not properly lubed (from new).

Sign in search. Lots of good stuff already covered.

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...t=rotor+warped

Tegger.com also has good materials about this problem.

'Curly'

jim beam 09-13-2006 09:45 PM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
- Bob - wrote:
> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>
> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
> are fixing.
>
> Thanks,
>

it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be tightened
in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do NOT allow
air tools to be used.

jim beam 09-13-2006 09:45 PM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
- Bob - wrote:
> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>
> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
> are fixing.
>
> Thanks,
>

it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be tightened
in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do NOT allow
air tools to be used.

jim beam 09-13-2006 09:45 PM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
- Bob - wrote:
> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>
> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
> are fixing.
>
> Thanks,
>

it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be tightened
in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do NOT allow
air tools to be used.

John Horner 09-14-2006 01:42 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
jim beam wrote:
> - Bob - wrote:
>> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
>> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>>
>> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
>> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
>> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
>> are fixing.
>> Thanks,

> it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
> tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be tightened
> in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do NOT allow
> air tools to be used.



It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems.
Many other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.

Contrary to popular opinion, the trouble is often that the brake rotor
has developed a thickness variation rather than simply warping like a
potato chip.

John


John Horner 09-14-2006 01:42 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
jim beam wrote:
> - Bob - wrote:
>> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
>> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>>
>> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
>> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
>> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
>> are fixing.
>> Thanks,

> it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
> tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be tightened
> in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do NOT allow
> air tools to be used.



It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems.
Many other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.

Contrary to popular opinion, the trouble is often that the brake rotor
has developed a thickness variation rather than simply warping like a
potato chip.

John


John Horner 09-14-2006 01:42 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
jim beam wrote:
> - Bob - wrote:
>> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
>> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>>
>> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
>> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
>> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
>> are fixing.
>> Thanks,

> it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
> tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be tightened
> in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do NOT allow
> air tools to be used.



It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems.
Many other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.

Contrary to popular opinion, the trouble is often that the brake rotor
has developed a thickness variation rather than simply warping like a
potato chip.

John


jim beam 09-14-2006 02:05 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
John Horner wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> - Bob - wrote:
>>> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
>>> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>>>
>>> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
>>> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
>>> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
>>> are fixing.
>>> Thanks,

>> it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
>> tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be
>> tightened in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do
>> NOT allow air tools to be used.

>
>
> It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
> problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
> 2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems.
> Many other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.
>
> Contrary to popular opinion, the trouble is often that the brake rotor
> has developed a thickness variation rather than simply warping like a
> potato chip.
>
> John
>

well, my experience is that i brought a civic home from a brake
inspection with rotors that were so warped, it was ridiculous. i drove
it there, brakes were fine, drove it home, brakes were pigs. re-torqued
the wheels as described, brakes were fine again. /that/ is not a
thickness variation.

jim beam 09-14-2006 02:05 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
John Horner wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> - Bob - wrote:
>>> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
>>> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>>>
>>> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
>>> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
>>> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
>>> are fixing.
>>> Thanks,

>> it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
>> tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be
>> tightened in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do
>> NOT allow air tools to be used.

>
>
> It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
> problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
> 2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems.
> Many other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.
>
> Contrary to popular opinion, the trouble is often that the brake rotor
> has developed a thickness variation rather than simply warping like a
> potato chip.
>
> John
>

well, my experience is that i brought a civic home from a brake
inspection with rotors that were so warped, it was ridiculous. i drove
it there, brakes were fine, drove it home, brakes were pigs. re-torqued
the wheels as described, brakes were fine again. /that/ is not a
thickness variation.

jim beam 09-14-2006 02:05 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
John Horner wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> - Bob - wrote:
>>> Are there any known issues with CRV rotors warping or similar
>>> pad/rotor pulsation problems and premature wear ?
>>>
>>> Friend has a 2005 with only 20K miles on it. Rears are not looking so
>>> good and there is a slight pulsation problem. I know it could be
>>> "normal" but I'm wondering if it's common and something the dealers
>>> are fixing.
>>> Thanks,

>> it's almost certainly due to incorrect wheel torque procedure when the
>> tires are rotated. it's a common problem. wheels need to be
>> tightened in a two-stage process using the correct bolt sequence. do
>> NOT allow air tools to be used.

>
>
> It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
> problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
> 2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems.
> Many other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.
>
> Contrary to popular opinion, the trouble is often that the brake rotor
> has developed a thickness variation rather than simply warping like a
> potato chip.
>
> John
>

well, my experience is that i brought a civic home from a brake
inspection with rotors that were so warped, it was ridiculous. i drove
it there, brakes were fine, drove it home, brakes were pigs. re-torqued
the wheels as described, brakes were fine again. /that/ is not a
thickness variation.

Michael Pardee 09-14-2006 09:00 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:KY5Og.18476$c22.17137@trnddc07...
> jim beam wrote:
> It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
> problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
> 2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems. Many
> other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.
>


I stopped having trouble with brake pulsation when I started using a torque
wrench on wheel lugs. Of course, that doesn't mean *all* pulsation comes
from overtorquing.

Mike



Michael Pardee 09-14-2006 09:00 AM

Re: 2005 CRV brakes - wear/warping issues ?
 
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:KY5Og.18476$c22.17137@trnddc07...
> jim beam wrote:
> It is almost an urban legend now to blame all brake rotor vibration
> problems on mis-torquing. In fact, Honda changed pad materials on some
> 2003 models and issued a service bulletin to address these problems. Many
> other makers have had this issue from time to time as well.
>


I stopped having trouble with brake pulsation when I started using a torque
wrench on wheel lugs. Of course, that doesn't mean *all* pulsation comes
from overtorquing.

Mike




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