Winston Smith

I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
the best deal possible? Thanks.

Art

www.kbb.com and www.edmunds.com

I would contact dealer thru their internet site first and get their price.
Wait a few days to see if it goes down in a second email.


"Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
>I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
>cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
>trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
>the best deal possible? Thanks.
>

Art

www.kbb.com and www.edmunds.com

I would contact dealer thru their internet site first and get their price.
Wait a few days to see if it goes down in a second email.


"Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
>I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
>cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
>trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
>the best deal possible? Thanks.
>

Charles Lasitter

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:20:06 GMT, "Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net>
wrote:

> I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
> cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
> trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
> the best deal possible? Thanks.

http://tinyurl.com/mxrrx

Click this URL, then the TMV pricing report. It's for Edmunds web
site, and it should give you everything you need.

Given your zip code, the site will send a request for quotes to
dealers in your area.
+-----------------------------------------+
| Charles Lasitter | Mailing/Shipping |
| 401/728-1987 | 14 Cooke St |
| cl+at+ncdm+dot+com | Pawtucket RI 02860 |
+-----------------------------------------+

Charles Lasitter

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:20:06 GMT, "Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net>
wrote:

> I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
> cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
> trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
> the best deal possible? Thanks.

http://tinyurl.com/mxrrx

Click this URL, then the TMV pricing report. It's for Edmunds web
site, and it should give you everything you need.

Given your zip code, the site will send a request for quotes to
dealers in your area.
+-----------------------------------------+
| Charles Lasitter | Mailing/Shipping |
| 401/728-1987 | 14 Cooke St |
| cl+at+ncdm+dot+com | Pawtucket RI 02860 |
+-----------------------------------------+

tww

"Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
> I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
> cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
> trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
> the best deal possible? Thanks.
>
>
Check Edmunds for the TMV price -- price most people are paying in your
area.

tww

"Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
> I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
> cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
> trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
> the best deal possible? Thanks.
>
>
Check Edmunds for the TMV price -- price most people are paying in your
area.

Fred Fartalot

Good rule of thumb is get the salesdick's best price and offer him $500
less.



"Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
>I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
>cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
>trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
>the best deal possible? Thanks.
>

Fred Fartalot

Good rule of thumb is get the salesdick's best price and offer him $500
less.



"Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
>I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
>cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
>trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
>the best deal possible? Thanks.
>

SoCalMike

Winston Smith wrote:
> I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
> cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
> trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
> the best deal possible? Thanks.
>
>
www.edmunds.com
www.kbb.com
www.costco.com

SoCalMike

Winston Smith wrote:
> I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual dealer's
> cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash deal (no
> trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will help me make
> the best deal possible? Thanks.
>
>
www.edmunds.com
www.kbb.com
www.costco.com

Winston Smith

Does the dealer really have that much margin on a car with an MSP of $17,
310? Edmunds lists the invoice at $15, 835.

I've seen dealers that claim to sell cars "at or below invoice". They make
it sound like they are giving them away. There's very little chance of
that...LOL!!! I've heard of something called a "hold back". It's extra
money that the dealer gets from the manufacturer when they sell a car.

What I'm trying to figure out is how low they can go and still make a decent
profit. That's what I mean by "the best deal possible". There doesn't seem
to be a lot of wiggle room here, unless I'm missing something. I understand
why these numbers are a closely guarded secret but it would be very helpful
to be armed with the facts before making a deal. Surely someone has a good
idea of just how low they can go before they start to lose money. Anyone
care enlighten me on this?

"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in message
news:POf_f.64227$H71.26229@newssvr13.news.prodigy. com...
> For a new car, I would offer $3000 off sticker.
>
> "Fred Fartalot" <langstonf09@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:NVYZf.2104$Es3.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> Good rule of thumb is get the salesdick's best price and offer him $500
>> less.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
>>>I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual
>>>dealer's cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash
>>>deal (no trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will
>>>help me make the best deal possible? Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Winston Smith

Does the dealer really have that much margin on a car with an MSP of $17,
310? Edmunds lists the invoice at $15, 835.

I've seen dealers that claim to sell cars "at or below invoice". They make
it sound like they are giving them away. There's very little chance of
that...LOL!!! I've heard of something called a "hold back". It's extra
money that the dealer gets from the manufacturer when they sell a car.

What I'm trying to figure out is how low they can go and still make a decent
profit. That's what I mean by "the best deal possible". There doesn't seem
to be a lot of wiggle room here, unless I'm missing something. I understand
why these numbers are a closely guarded secret but it would be very helpful
to be armed with the facts before making a deal. Surely someone has a good
idea of just how low they can go before they start to lose money. Anyone
care enlighten me on this?

"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in message
news:POf_f.64227$H71.26229@newssvr13.news.prodigy. com...
> For a new car, I would offer $3000 off sticker.
>
> "Fred Fartalot" <langstonf09@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:NVYZf.2104$Es3.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> Good rule of thumb is get the salesdick's best price and offer him $500
>> less.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Winston Smith" <smith@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:G1UZf.1569$wH1.947@trnddc03...
>>>I am thinking about buying one of these cars. What is the actual
>>>dealer's cost with no add-ons? How much can I expect to pay on a cash
>>>deal (no trade-in)? Are there any buying tips you can share that will
>>>help me make the best deal possible? Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

SoCalMike

Winston Smith wrote:
> Does the dealer really have that much margin on a car with an MSP of $17,
> 310? Edmunds lists the invoice at $15, 835.
>
> I've seen dealers that claim to sell cars "at or below invoice". They make
> it sound like they are giving them away. There's very little chance of
> that...LOL!!! I've heard of something called a "hold back". It's extra
> money that the dealer gets from the manufacturer when they sell a car.
>
> What I'm trying to figure out is how low they can go and still make a decent
> profit. That's what I mean by "the best deal possible". There doesn't seem
> to be a lot of wiggle room here, unless I'm missing something. I understand
> why these numbers are a closely guarded secret but it would be very helpful
> to be armed with the facts before making a deal. Surely someone has a good
> idea of just how low they can go before they start to lose money. Anyone
> care enlighten me on this?

the number can change often, too. theres holdback, then there are other
incentives that arent advertised either.

american honda motor corp might go through the numbers tomorrow and
decide there are too many 4dr accord dx's in inventory and in the
pipeline, and offer their dealers a better deal to move em. might just
happen in one region, too.

they arent going to call edmunds and tell em, though.

SoCalMike

Winston Smith wrote:
> Does the dealer really have that much margin on a car with an MSP of $17,
> 310? Edmunds lists the invoice at $15, 835.
>
> I've seen dealers that claim to sell cars "at or below invoice". They make
> it sound like they are giving them away. There's very little chance of
> that...LOL!!! I've heard of something called a "hold back". It's extra
> money that the dealer gets from the manufacturer when they sell a car.
>
> What I'm trying to figure out is how low they can go and still make a decent
> profit. That's what I mean by "the best deal possible". There doesn't seem
> to be a lot of wiggle room here, unless I'm missing something. I understand
> why these numbers are a closely guarded secret but it would be very helpful
> to be armed with the facts before making a deal. Surely someone has a good
> idea of just how low they can go before they start to lose money. Anyone
> care enlighten me on this?

the number can change often, too. theres holdback, then there are other
incentives that arent advertised either.

american honda motor corp might go through the numbers tomorrow and
decide there are too many 4dr accord dx's in inventory and in the
pipeline, and offer their dealers a better deal to move em. might just
happen in one region, too.

they arent going to call edmunds and tell em, though.