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carfan85 12-04-2009 07:50 AM

2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
Can anyone advise me of where I would find, and how I might identify the
part that controls the daytime running lights on this vehicle? Since I
got it for my wife new in '06, the passenger side DRL/high beam light
does not function properly - it does not come on, especially in cold
weather, until the car is driven for a while. On hot summer days it is
not an issue.

Any advice/suggestions?

Thanks!

Tegger 12-04-2009 08:07 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Dc2dnctAfusdmITWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :

> Can anyone advise me of where I would find, and how I might identify the
> part that controls the daytime running lights on this vehicle? Since I
> got it for my wife new in '06, the passenger side DRL/high beam light
> does not function properly - it does not come on, especially in cold
> weather, until the car is driven for a while. On hot summer days it is
> not an issue.
>
> Any advice/suggestions?
>




My first suggestion would be to check if your warranty is still valid. Let
the dealer handle it and Honda pay for it.

Even if you're slightly out of warranty, there's a good chance you can
politely negotiate a "goodwill" warranty fix.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Joe 12-04-2009 08:34 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can anyone advise me of where I would find, and how I might identify the
> part that controls the daytime running lights on this vehicle? Since I
> got it for my wife new in '06, the passenger side DRL/high beam light
> does not function properly - it does not come on, especially in cold
> weather, until the car is driven for a while. On hot summer days it is
> not an issue.
>
> Any advice/suggestions?


Why did you wait so long? Your car came with a 3 year/36000 mile
warranty. If you're out of warranty, and this has been happening all
along, shame on you.

--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

carfan85 12-04-2009 09:01 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
Joe wrote:
> On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone advise me of where I would find, and how I might identify the
>> part that controls the daytime running lights on this vehicle? Since I
>> got it for my wife new in '06, the passenger side DRL/high beam light
>> does not function properly - it does not come on, especially in cold
>> weather, until the car is driven for a while. On hot summer days it is
>> not an issue.
>>
>> Any advice/suggestions?
>>

>
> Why did you wait so long? Your car came with a 3 year/36000 mile
> warranty. If you're out of warranty, and this has been happening all
> along, shame on you.
>
>

You are absolutely right. We got it in the summer, so no issue (or at
least a minor one), I even changed the bulb twice chalking it up to a
bulb issue. The it was the usual procrastination coupled with a job
change and A LOT of commuting, so I was not looking for things to deal with.

That leaves me where I am today.

I appreciate any insight anyone might have on how the system works, what
controls it and where I might find the control(s). It appears thermally
related, so I will approach it as such once I have a clue where the
device is!

Thanks again!

Tegger 12-04-2009 09:19 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Dc2dncpAfuuBi4TWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :

> Joe wrote:
>> On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:


>>
>> Why did you wait so long? Your car came with a 3 year/36000 mile
>> warranty. If you're out of warranty, and this has been happening all
>> along, shame on you.
>>
>>

> You are absolutely right. We got it in the summer, so no issue (or at
> least a minor one), I even changed the bulb twice chalking it up to a
> bulb issue. The it was the usual procrastination coupled with a job
> change and A LOT of commuting, so I was not looking for things to deal
> with.
>
> That leaves me where I am today.
>
> I appreciate any insight anyone might have on how the system works,
> what controls it and where I might find the control(s). It appears
> thermally related, so I will approach it as such once I have a clue
> where the device is!
>




My first suggestion would be to check if your warranty is still valid. Let
the dealer handle it and let Honda pay for it.

Even if you're slightly out of warranty, there's a good chance you can
politely negotiate a "goodwill" warranty fix.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Joe 12-04-2009 09:25 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>> On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone advise me of where I would find, and how I might identify the
>>> part that controls the daytime running lights on this vehicle? Since I
>>> got it for my wife new in '06, the passenger side DRL/high beam light
>>> does not function properly - it does not come on, especially in cold
>>> weather, until the car is driven for a while. On hot summer days it is
>>> not an issue.
>>>
>>> Any advice/suggestions?
>>>

>>
>> Why did you wait so long? Your car came with a 3 year/36000 mile
>> warranty. If you're out of warranty, and this has been happening all
>> along, shame on you.
>>
>>

> You are absolutely right. We got it in the summer, so no issue (or at
> least a minor one), I even changed the bulb twice chalking it up to a
> bulb issue. The it was the usual procrastination coupled with a job
> change and A LOT of commuting, so I was not looking for things to deal with.
>
> That leaves me where I am today.
>
> I appreciate any insight anyone might have on how the system works, what
> controls it and where I might find the control(s). It appears thermally
> related, so I will approach it as such once I have a clue where the
> device is!
>
> Thanks again!


I'd still take it to the dealer and ask them to fix it. If they won't
cover it, try Honda America. It seems a shame to pay for parts for
something that never has worked right.

Other than that, I'd recommend getting the official shop repair
manual.

I have the same car, but I've never had any problems with it, so other
than being preachy, I have little of value to add for you... ;-)

--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

carfan85 12-04-2009 10:19 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
Joe wrote:
> On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-12-04, carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can anyone advise me of where I would find, and how I might identify the
>>>> part that controls the daytime running lights on this vehicle? Since I
>>>> got it for my wife new in '06, the passenger side DRL/high beam light
>>>> does not function properly - it does not come on, especially in cold
>>>> weather, until the car is driven for a while. On hot summer days it is
>>>> not an issue.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice/suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why did you wait so long? Your car came with a 3 year/36000 mile
>>> warranty. If you're out of warranty, and this has been happening all
>>> along, shame on you.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> You are absolutely right. We got it in the summer, so no issue (or at
>> least a minor one), I even changed the bulb twice chalking it up to a
>> bulb issue. The it was the usual procrastination coupled with a job
>> change and A LOT of commuting, so I was not looking for things to deal with.
>>
>> That leaves me where I am today.
>>
>> I appreciate any insight anyone might have on how the system works, what
>> controls it and where I might find the control(s). It appears thermally
>> related, so I will approach it as such once I have a clue where the
>> device is!
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>

>
> I'd still take it to the dealer and ask them to fix it. If they won't
> cover it, try Honda America. It seems a shame to pay for parts for
> something that never has worked right.
>
> Other than that, I'd recommend getting the official shop repair
> manual.
>
> I have the same car, but I've never had any problems with it, so other
> than being preachy, I have little of value to add for you... ;-)
>
>

Yeah, I will do both. I don't have a local Honda dealer where I live
now, another thing that made it an issue to address. I was hoping
someone had info on the system itself, but hey, we tried!


Tegger 12-04-2009 11:33 AM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Dc2dncVAfusQtYTWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :

> I was hoping
> someone had info on the system itself, but hey, we tried!
>




If my information is correct, the right high-beam wire should go directly
from the DRL module to the lamp itself.

If it's ONLY the right high beam, and if the right high-beam has problems
whether the headlamp switch is set to "on" or "off", then it's probably the
DRL control module itself, or there's a defect in that wire.

It's even possible you simply have a defective bulb.

You can try feeding battery voltage directly to the high-beam at the
headlamp connector (backprobe with a meter first to see what goes where!).
If the high-beam comes on immediately with direct battery voltage, then the
bulb is OK and the problem lies elsewhere.

If you're in the US, you can download the correct wiring diagrams and
troubleshooting for your car from Honda itself, very cheaply.
https://techinfo.honda.com



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

carfan85 12-04-2009 02:51 PM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
Tegger wrote:
> carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Dc2dncVAfusQtYTWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :
>
>
>> I was hoping
>> someone had info on the system itself, but hey, we tried!
>>
>>

>
>
>
> If my information is correct, the right high-beam wire should go directly
> from the DRL module to the lamp itself.
>
> If it's ONLY the right high beam, and if the right high-beam has problems
> whether the headlamp switch is set to "on" or "off", then it's probably the
> DRL control module itself, or there's a defect in that wire.
>
> It's even possible you simply have a defective bulb.
>
> You can try feeding battery voltage directly to the high-beam at the
> headlamp connector (backprobe with a meter first to see what goes where!).
> If the high-beam comes on immediately with direct battery voltage, then the
> bulb is OK and the problem lies elsewhere.
>
> If you're in the US, you can download the correct wiring diagrams and
> troubleshooting for your car from Honda itself, very cheaply.
> https://techinfo.honda.com
>
>
>
>

The DRL and the high beam function properly once the "warm up" as I call
it has occurred. Do you know where the DRL module is and what it looks
like? In previous years it was a grey module near the steering column,
but not in this year car.

Tegger 12-04-2009 08:04 PM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Dc2dncRAfuvY9YTWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :


>>
>>

> The DRL and the high beam function properly once the "warm up" as I
> call it has occurred. Do you know where the DRL module is and what it
> looks like? In previous years it was a grey module near the steering
> column, but not in this year car.





No idea, sorry. Honda puts them all over the place.

That DRL module is fairly pricey, something like $300 if I recall
correctly. You may want to investigate the bulb and wiring before you spend
money on the DRL module.

I can't figure out where you are geographically (Giganews masks that, and
you've been secretive), but I still think your best bet is to go to a Honda
(or Acura) dealer and try to get them to have Honda authorize a "goodwill"
warranty repair.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Jim Yanik 12-04-2009 08:20 PM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Dc2dncRAfuvY9YTWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :

> Tegger wrote:
>> carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:Dc2dncVAfusQtYTWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :
>>
>>
>>> I was hoping
>>> someone had info on the system itself, but hey, we tried!
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> If my information is correct, the right high-beam wire should go
>> directly from the DRL module to the lamp itself.
>>
>> If it's ONLY the right high beam, and if the right high-beam has
>> problems whether the headlamp switch is set to "on" or "off", then
>> it's probably the DRL control module itself, or there's a defect in
>> that wire.
>>
>> It's even possible you simply have a defective bulb.
>>
>> You can try feeding battery voltage directly to the high-beam at the
>> headlamp connector (backprobe with a meter first to see what goes
>> where!). If the high-beam comes on immediately with direct battery
>> voltage, then the bulb is OK and the problem lies elsewhere.
>>
>> If you're in the US, you can download the correct wiring diagrams and
>> troubleshooting for your car from Honda itself, very cheaply.
>> https://techinfo.honda.com
>>
>>
>>
>>

> The DRL and the high beam function properly once the "warm up" as I
> call it has occurred. Do you know where the DRL module is and what it
> looks like? In previous years it was a grey module near the steering
> column, but not in this year car.
>


it also could be a corroded or loose connector between the DRL module and
the bulb.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Tegger 12-04-2009 08:53 PM

Re: 2006 Civic Si DRL issue
 
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9CD7CF0E83521jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.4 4:

> carfan85 <jw04363@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Dc2dncRAfuvY9YTWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@giganews.com :
>


>>>

>> The DRL and the high beam function properly once the "warm up" as I
>> call it has occurred. Do you know where the DRL module is and what it
>> looks like? In previous years it was a grey module near the steering
>> column, but not in this year car.
>>

>
> it also could be a corroded or loose connector between the DRL module
> and the bulb.
>




I believe "carfan85" is in Eastern Canada (as am I). Corrosion would
therefore be a distinct possiblity -- except that carfan85 has reported
that the problem has existed since the car was brand-new.

Carfan85 has said there is no Honda dealer within easy reach of him, but
leaving this expensive and warrantable problem untouched for THREE
WARRANTIED YEARS? It makes me wonder about the rest of the car...

Even most of those in the sticks of Alberta manage to make it to Edmonton
or Calgary at least once in three years. I'd say more about this, but I'd
end up being impolite, so I'd better not.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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