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HD 05-13-2006 12:19 PM

2006 Odyssey Lemon
 

I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
dealer told me they had to order the part.

The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a
safety defect.

Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming
the replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for
the repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not
fix it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the
part. So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they
completely ignored the questions about the safety issues I raised in my
letter.

I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety
records, but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously.
Also, based on their actions, they were attempting to cover up
potentially an illegal activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle
inspections).

I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where
I can find their address?

I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
firm?

I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.


..HD

tww 05-13-2006 03:31 PM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 

"HD" <nospma@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:8KSdnSmSwNyHmvvZRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
> I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
> be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
> falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
> vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
> dealer told me they had to order the part.


You don't say what the defect was.

>
> The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
> American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
> questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
> since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
> the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a
> safety defect.
>
> Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
> conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming
> the replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for
> the repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not
> fix it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the
> part. So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they
> completely ignored the questions about the safety issues I raised in my
> letter.
>
> I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety
> records, but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously.
> Also, based on their actions, they were attempting to cover up
> potentially an illegal activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle
> inspections).
>
> I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where
> I can find their address?
>
> I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
> firm?
>
> I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.
>
>
> .HD




tww 05-13-2006 03:31 PM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 

"HD" <nospma@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:8KSdnSmSwNyHmvvZRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
> I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
> be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
> falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
> vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
> dealer told me they had to order the part.


You don't say what the defect was.

>
> The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
> American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
> questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
> since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
> the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a
> safety defect.
>
> Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
> conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming
> the replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for
> the repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not
> fix it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the
> part. So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they
> completely ignored the questions about the safety issues I raised in my
> letter.
>
> I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety
> records, but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously.
> Also, based on their actions, they were attempting to cover up
> potentially an illegal activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle
> inspections).
>
> I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where
> I can find their address?
>
> I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
> firm?
>
> I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.
>
>
> .HD




tww 05-13-2006 03:31 PM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 

"HD" <nospma@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:8KSdnSmSwNyHmvvZRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
> I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
> be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
> falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
> vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
> dealer told me they had to order the part.


You don't say what the defect was.

>
> The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
> American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
> questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
> since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
> the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a
> safety defect.
>
> Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
> conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming
> the replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for
> the repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not
> fix it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the
> part. So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they
> completely ignored the questions about the safety issues I raised in my
> letter.
>
> I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety
> records, but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously.
> Also, based on their actions, they were attempting to cover up
> potentially an illegal activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle
> inspections).
>
> I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where
> I can find their address?
>
> I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
> firm?
>
> I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.
>
>
> .HD




Art 05-14-2006 12:54 AM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
You received multiple booklets with your Odyssey. One contains the lemon
law in your state and instructions on arbitration. You should start the
arbitration process first. A lawyer will cost too much to be worthwhile.

Your problem may be a dealer problem and not a Honda problem.



"HD" <nospma@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:8KSdnSmSwNyHmvvZRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
> I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
> be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
> falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
> vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
> dealer told me they had to order the part.
>
> The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
> American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
> questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
> since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
> the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a safety
> defect.
>
> Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
> conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming the
> replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for the
> repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not fix
> it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the part.
> So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they completely ignored
> the questions about the safety issues I raised in my letter.
>
> I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety records,
> but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously. Also, based on
> their actions, they were attempting to cover up potentially an illegal
> activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle inspections).
>
> I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where I
> can find their address?
>
> I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
> firm?
>
> I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.
>
>
> .HD




Art 05-14-2006 12:54 AM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
You received multiple booklets with your Odyssey. One contains the lemon
law in your state and instructions on arbitration. You should start the
arbitration process first. A lawyer will cost too much to be worthwhile.

Your problem may be a dealer problem and not a Honda problem.



"HD" <nospma@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:8KSdnSmSwNyHmvvZRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
> I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
> be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
> falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
> vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
> dealer told me they had to order the part.
>
> The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
> American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
> questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
> since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
> the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a safety
> defect.
>
> Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
> conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming the
> replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for the
> repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not fix
> it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the part.
> So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they completely ignored
> the questions about the safety issues I raised in my letter.
>
> I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety records,
> but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously. Also, based on
> their actions, they were attempting to cover up potentially an illegal
> activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle inspections).
>
> I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where I
> can find their address?
>
> I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
> firm?
>
> I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.
>
>
> .HD




Art 05-14-2006 12:54 AM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
You received multiple booklets with your Odyssey. One contains the lemon
law in your state and instructions on arbitration. You should start the
arbitration process first. A lawyer will cost too much to be worthwhile.

Your problem may be a dealer problem and not a Honda problem.



"HD" <nospma@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:8KSdnSmSwNyHmvvZRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
> I recently bought a new Odyssey in Brooklyn, New York. It turned out to
> be a lemon - it had a serious safety defect and the dealer apparently
> falsified the new vehicle inspections in order to make delivery of the
> vehicle. I immediately took the car to the dealer for a repair. The
> dealer told me they had to order the part.
>
> The dealer hadn't repaired the problem in over 30 days. I wrote to
> American Honda and asked them to investigate. I asked them a list of
> questions regarding how the issue was handled, and asked for a refund
> since the vehicle was not fit to be delivered in the first place. Among
> the questions I asked was why it took so long for a dealer to fix a safety
> defect.
>
> Months later, American Honda finally wrote back to me claiming they had
> conducted a thorough investigation. They fabricated a story claiming the
> replacement part was available on the day I brought my car in for the
> repair. This was outrageous! If they had the part why did they not fix
> it the same day? Also, records showed the dealer did not have the part.
> So American Honda lied about the situation. Also, they completely ignored
> the questions about the safety issues I raised in my letter.
>
> I'm fed up with Honda. On the one hand, they touted their safety records,
> but behind the scenes, they didn't take safety seriously. Also, based on
> their actions, they were attempting to cover up potentially an illegal
> activity of the dealer (i.e. falsifying vehicle inspections).
>
> I want to write to Honda headquarters in Japan. Does anyone know where I
> can find their address?
>
> I also plan on filing a new car Lemon case. Can someone recommend a law
> firm?
>
> I will update the board with any new progress on this matter.
>
>
> .HD




zonie 05-14-2006 04:38 PM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
So what was the problem?
Scott


zonie 05-14-2006 04:38 PM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
So what was the problem?
Scott


zonie 05-14-2006 04:38 PM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
So what was the problem?
Scott


John Horner 05-16-2006 12:18 AM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
Art wrote:
> You received multiple booklets with your Odyssey. One contains the lemon
> law in your state and instructions on arbitration. You should start the
> arbitration process first. A lawyer will cost too much to be worthwhile.
>


Arbitration is often a bad idea. Several years ago we had a problem
with a new non-Honda product. Short version: Found a California lemon
law lawyer who took the case on contingency and would only be paid if he
won. Took about three months, but in the end we got a check for 100% of
our money back and the car mfg. paid the attorneys fees.

John


John Horner 05-16-2006 12:18 AM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
Art wrote:
> You received multiple booklets with your Odyssey. One contains the lemon
> law in your state and instructions on arbitration. You should start the
> arbitration process first. A lawyer will cost too much to be worthwhile.
>


Arbitration is often a bad idea. Several years ago we had a problem
with a new non-Honda product. Short version: Found a California lemon
law lawyer who took the case on contingency and would only be paid if he
won. Took about three months, but in the end we got a check for 100% of
our money back and the car mfg. paid the attorneys fees.

John


John Horner 05-16-2006 12:18 AM

Re: 2006 Odyssey Lemon
 
Art wrote:
> You received multiple booklets with your Odyssey. One contains the lemon
> law in your state and instructions on arbitration. You should start the
> arbitration process first. A lawyer will cost too much to be worthwhile.
>


Arbitration is often a bad idea. Several years ago we had a problem
with a new non-Honda product. Short version: Found a California lemon
law lawyer who took the case on contingency and would only be paid if he
won. Took about three months, but in the end we got a check for 100% of
our money back and the car mfg. paid the attorneys fees.

John



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