2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
the 2009 have any signs of this too?

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

On Sep 10, 2:16 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
wrote:
> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
> the 2009 have any signs of this too?

I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
your braking will be with the rear wheels.
don't worry both front and rear brake pads are easy to change for both
maybe only 1.5hrs.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

"Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote in message
news:17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 10, 2:16 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
wrote:
> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
> the 2009 have any signs of this too?

I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
your braking will be with the rear wheels.
don't worry both front and rear brake pads are easy to change for both
maybe only 1.5hrs.

I replaced my rears on a 06 I4 coupe at 53k. The fronts are still OK.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

"Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote in
news:17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 10, 2:16 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>
> I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
> 17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
> your braking will be with the rear wheels.



What? He's talking through his hat.

On a FWD car the fronts do about 80% of the braking. Unless Honda has found
a way to repeal the laws of physics, it shall ever be thus.




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Tegger

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Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in news:9bc0f253-6f77-
43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
> the 2009 have any signs of this too?



They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's rear
brakes. Don't worry about it.


--
Tegger

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Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

In article
<17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
"Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote:

> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
> your braking will be with the rear wheels.

memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.

The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.

No way around it.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
4D4991.20104110092009@news.eternal-september.org:

> In article
> <17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> "Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote:
>
>> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
>> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
>> your braking will be with the rear wheels.
>
> memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.
>
> The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
> Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
> weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.
>
> No way around it.



Quick and simple test for anyone who rides a bicycle:

Get the bike up to some kind of reasonable speed. Now squeeze only the REAR
brake hard. (Let go quick so the resulting skid doesn't slam you onto the
pavement.)

Now do the same thing again, but this time squeeze only the FRONT brake
hard. See the difference? Car brakes and weight transfer behave identically
to this.

Practical physics at work in a most abundantly convincing way!


--
Tegger

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Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

tww1491 wrote:

> I replaced my rears on a 06 I4 coupe at 53k. The fronts are still OK.

I had to replace the front pads on my '04 Civic last year at 46k. Rears are
drums and are still fine. Honda brake pads do seem to be wearing more
quickly than they used to, from what I've been reading.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

Eternal Searcher <eternalsearcherREMOVE7219@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:h8c87s$j42$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> tww1491 wrote:
>
>> I replaced my rears on a 06 I4 coupe at 53k. The fronts are still
>> OK.
>
> I had to replace the front pads on my '04 Civic last year at 46k.
> Rears are drums and are still fine. Honda brake pads do seem to be
> wearing more quickly than they used to, from what I've been reading.
>



I've been hanging around Usenet since about 1999. Reports of inadequate
rear disc brake pad life have been around at least as long.

Areas with regularly bad weather (such as the Peoples' Republic of Canada)
have the worst pad life problems.


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Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9C82C52CCD672tegger@208.90.168.18...
> "Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote in
> news:17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Sep 10, 2:16 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>>
>> I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
>> 17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
>> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
>> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
>> your braking will be with the rear wheels.
>
>
>
> What? He's talking through his hat.
>
> On a FWD car the fronts do about 80% of the braking. Unless Honda has
> found
> a way to repeal the laws of physics, it shall ever be thus.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Agree completely. We used to claim that the only reason for a rear brake
pedal or handle on a motorcycle was to illuminate the rear stop light.
However, perhaps the op misunderstood the service adviser. He may have been
refering to the way in which the proportioning valve was set up. That is
more power sent to the rear brakes than to the fronts. I can not fathom why
Honda engineers would even consider such a stunt. More likely, the service
adviser was trying to mollify an unhappy customer who had just had his brake
pads replaced at low mileage .....Maybe????

DaveD

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv>
wrote:

>"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in news:9bc0f253-6f77-
>43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>
>
>
>They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's rear
>brakes. Don't worry about it.


Hate pads on the back. I am glad my Accord has drums.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-4D4991.20104110092009@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article
> <17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> "Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote:
>
>> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
>> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
>> your braking will be with the rear wheels.
>
> memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.
>
> The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
> Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
> weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.
>
> No way around it.

Just eyeballing it, but the rear discs seem to have a smaller diameter -- at
least on my 06. That coupled with "softer" pads could be the reason for
rears having to be replaced before the fronts. For my part, I was not
distressed that my rears lasted 53k. On the other hand, our 03 Pilot had to
have both front and rear replaced at 73k or so. So it would appear that the
wear was pretty equal in this case.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

On 9/11/09 6:44 AM, in article bIqqm.26311$ec2.9720@newsfe13.iad, "tww1491"
<twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:

>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-4D4991.20104110092009@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article
>> <17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
>>> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
>>> your braking will be with the rear wheels.
>>
>> memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.
>>
>> The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
>> Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
>> weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.
>>
>> No way around it.
>
> Just eyeballing it, but the rear discs seem to have a smaller diameter -- at
> least on my 06. That coupled with "softer" pads could be the reason for
> rears having to be replaced before the fronts. For my part, I was not
> distressed that my rears lasted 53k. On the other hand, our 03 Pilot had to
> have both front and rear replaced at 73k or so. So it would appear that the
> wear was pretty equal in this case.
>
>
I see the same thing with my old Odyssey ('96) and with the '06 CRV. Both
have four wheel disks, both have the parking brake set up with a separate
drum inside the rear hub and both wear all four pads pretty evenly. The
Odyssey needed its first pad change at 96k miles. The CRV is currently at
45k and is nowhere near needing anything brake-wise.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider wrote:
> On Sep 10, 2:16�pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>
> I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
> 17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
> your braking will be with the rear wheels.

so, you're not returning to that dealer then i assume? because you
shouldn't give money to retards.

personally, if a dealer told me that, i'd note the service adviser's
name, then call honda usa's customer service line and tell them that an
idiot has slipped through the training net, with that name and dealer
details. it's a fundamental customer service problem that reflects
badly on the honda brand - they'll take care of it.


> don't worry both front and rear brake pads are easy to change for both
> maybe only 1.5hrs.

Re: 2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?
 

Clete wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv>
> wrote:
> Hate pads on the back. I am glad my Accord has drums.

Oh don't start this again!

;0)

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