Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

No I did not give him any money, although he did offer a kiss.... smartass
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> Robert Brennan, wrote the following at or about 8/25/2006 1:38 PM:
>> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
>> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
>> this would be a special order.
>
> Just guessing but my thought would be that since Honda designed the
> engine, they just MIGHT know what is going to prove best overall in
> lubricating it, giving the best performance, etc.
>
> This guy who changed your oil and told you that 5W30 would be a "special
> order," did he give you a kiss when he did you or just take your money and
> promise to call you in the morning?
>
>
>> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>
> Better to ask what the implications of using a lube store that didn't try
> to rip you off (if you can find one<g>)
>
> Stop by a Farm & Fleet/Fleet & Farm, Tractor Supply Co, or any other place
> you can buy oil by the case. Take a gander at the tremendous price
> difference between 5W30 and 10W30 in the same grade/brand. You'll be
> amazed.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

thank you, I too do not know the implications of using heavier weight oil.
<bobzee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Robert Brennan wrote:
>> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
>> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
>> this would be a special order.
>>
>> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
> i believe the thinner weight helps to achieve the higher gas mileage.
> i am not sure of the implications of using the heavier oil.
> poor gas mileage, slower to rev, etc.?
>
> kinda weird that it (5w20) would be a special order. it is specified
> in quite a few fords and most late model hondas that i am familiar
> with.
>
> bob z.
>

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Robert Brennan wrote:
> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
> this would be a special order.
>
> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>


If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by
Honda, Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY
shop which says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post
is confusing) does not know what they are doing.

10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
modern production North America applications.

John

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Robert Brennan wrote:
> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
> this would be a special order.
>
> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>


If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by
Honda, Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY
shop which says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post
is confusing) does not know what they are doing.

10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
modern production North America applications.

John

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Robert Brennan wrote:
> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
> this would be a special order.
>
> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>


If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by
Honda, Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY
shop which says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post
is confusing) does not know what they are doing.

10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
modern production North America applications.

John

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Robert Brennan wrote:
> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
> this would be a special order.
>
> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>


If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by
Honda, Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY
shop which says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post
is confusing) does not know what they are doing.

10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
modern production North America applications.

John

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Thank You
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Robert Brennan wrote:
>> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
>> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
>> this would be a special order.
>>
>> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>
> If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
> dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
> specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by Honda,
> Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY shop which
> says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post is confusing)
> does not know what they are doing.
>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.
>
> John
>

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Thank You
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cJJHg.73$N84.31@trnddc08...
> Robert Brennan wrote:
>> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
>> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
>> this would be a special order.
>>
>> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>
> If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
> dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
> specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by Honda,
> Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY shop which
> says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post is confusing)
> does not know what they are doing.
>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.
>
> John
>

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Thank You
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cJJHg.73$N84.31@trnddc08...
> Robert Brennan wrote:
>> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
>> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
>> this would be a special order.
>>
>> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>
> If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
> dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
> specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by Honda,
> Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY shop which
> says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post is confusing)
> does not know what they are doing.
>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.
>
> John
>

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

Thank You
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cJJHg.73$N84.31@trnddc08...
> Robert Brennan wrote:
>> Does anyone know why Honda recommends 5W30 weight of oil. When I went to
>> have the oil changed the guy who has been doing the changes told me that
>> this would be a special order.
>>
>> What if any are the implications of using plain old 10W30 weight oil.
>
>
> If you are not going to do it yourself and are not going to use a Honda
> dealer than at least have all of your work done by a shop which
> specializes in Hondas and/or Japanese cars. 5W-20 is specified by Honda,
> Ford and others mostly for maximum fuel economy. However, ANY shop which
> says that 5W-20 is a special order item or (5W-30, your post is confusing)
> does not know what they are doing.
>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.
>
> John
>

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.

I agree that 5w-20 oils are by and large great oils though I I do believe
the push is for nothing but better fleet, CAFE statistics. We can evidence
this by looking at non-USDM oil recommendations for exactly the same
powertrains. I run 5W-30 year round in the Mid-Atlantic and I bet I'll
never encounter an oil related engine failure. If I reverted back to 5k
mile oil changes, I would not hesitate to run a name brand 10w-30 in the hot
months and 5w-30s in the winters.

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.

I agree that 5w-20 oils are by and large great oils though I I do believe
the push is for nothing but better fleet, CAFE statistics. We can evidence
this by looking at non-USDM oil recommendations for exactly the same
powertrains. I run 5W-30 year round in the Mid-Atlantic and I bet I'll
never encounter an oil related engine failure. If I reverted back to 5k
mile oil changes, I would not hesitate to run a name brand 10w-30 in the hot
months and 5w-30s in the winters.

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.

I agree that 5w-20 oils are by and large great oils though I I do believe
the push is for nothing but better fleet, CAFE statistics. We can evidence
this by looking at non-USDM oil recommendations for exactly the same
powertrains. I run 5W-30 year round in the Mid-Atlantic and I bet I'll
never encounter an oil related engine failure. If I reverted back to 5k
mile oil changes, I would not hesitate to run a name brand 10w-30 in the hot
months and 5w-30s in the winters.

Re: 5W20 Oil for 2005 Honda Element
 

>
> 10W-30 is an antiquated specification which is called for in very few
> modern production North America applications.

I agree that 5w-20 oils are by and large great oils though I I do believe
the push is for nothing but better fleet, CAFE statistics. We can evidence
this by looking at non-USDM oil recommendations for exactly the same
powertrains. I run 5W-30 year round in the Mid-Atlantic and I bet I'll
never encounter an oil related engine failure. If I reverted back to 5k
mile oil changes, I would not hesitate to run a name brand 10w-30 in the hot
months and 5w-30s in the winters.