'86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
06-03-2004, 07:52 PM
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'86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
coolant?
--
~~~~~
Carl
06-03-2004, 08:08 PM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
There are fuses under the dash and under the hood. Do you have an
owners manual? bob
Crazyeyes wrote:
>
> Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> coolant?
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
owners manual? bob
Crazyeyes wrote:
>
> Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> coolant?
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
06-03-2004, 10:03 PM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of the
inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
"Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
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>
> Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> coolant?
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
>
>
inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
"Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>
> Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> coolant?
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
>
>
06-03-2004, 11:51 PM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Yes
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Carl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Knowledge is power, and for each level of knowledge, you are held
responsible for it."
- Gary Zukav
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> There are fuses under the dash and under the hood. Do you have an
> owners manual? bob
>
> Crazyeyes wrote:
> >
> > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > coolant?
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Carl
--
~~~~~
Carl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Knowledge is power, and for each level of knowledge, you are held
responsible for it."
- Gary Zukav
"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:40BFC3C7.DB27735@neo.rr.com...
> There are fuses under the dash and under the hood. Do you have an
> owners manual? bob
>
> Crazyeyes wrote:
> >
> > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > coolant?
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Carl
06-03-2004, 11:53 PM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Yes but is it easy and cheap enough for some one with no mechanical
knowledge? To fix it?
--
~~~~~
Carl
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of the
> inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
>
> "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > coolant?
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Carl
> >
> >
>
>
knowledge? To fix it?
--
~~~~~
Carl
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10bvm4b2agqqiae@corp.supernews.com...
> I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of the
> inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
>
> "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > coolant?
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Carl
> >
> >
>
>
06-04-2004, 12:06 AM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Assuming the clutch and coil are bad, you'll need a special tool to remove
it. Many autoparts stores rent the tool.
"Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
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> Yes but is it easy and cheap enough for some one with no mechanical
> knowledge? To fix it?
>
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:10bvm4b2agqqiae@corp.supernews.com...
> > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of
the
> > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> >
> > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > >
> > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air.
Is
> > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > > coolant?
> > > --
> > > ~~~~~
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
it. Many autoparts stores rent the tool.
"Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
news
mSvc.42254$mQ4.35781@fe2.texas.rr.com...> Yes but is it easy and cheap enough for some one with no mechanical
> knowledge? To fix it?
>
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:10bvm4b2agqqiae@corp.supernews.com...
> > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of
the
> > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> >
> > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > >
> > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air.
Is
> > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > > coolant?
> > > --
> > > ~~~~~
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
06-04-2004, 12:15 AM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
The switch for the ventilation fan has an output that is "on" in all
positions except when the fan is turned all the way off. This output
goes to the A/C switch and to the A/C indicator light. If this contact
on the ventilation fan switch is faulty, the A/C would not work and the
A/C indicator light would never come on. It is not unusual for these
switches to fail, I replaced one in an '87 Civic once.
If you want to test it, remove the fan switch. At the back of it is a 6
pin connector where the car wire harness connects. Orient the switch so
that the latch side is facing down. Looking at the connector, it should
look something like this (note: The upper row is *not* in alphabetical
order):
|-------------|
| A C B |
| |
| D E F |
|----| |----|
|---|
Measure the for continuity between pins A and B. There should be
continuity with the switch in any position except "off".
You can also use paper clips or wire stubs or something similar to short
together terminals A, B and C of the connector on the wire harness from
the car. If you start the car, the A/C should now turn on and the fan
should come on at low speed.
If you verify that the switch is bad, you can get a new one at
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com for around $35 + shipping &
handling.
If you want scans from the service manual, post a real e-mail address
and I'll send it to you.
Crazyeyes wrote:
>
> Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> coolant?
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
positions except when the fan is turned all the way off. This output
goes to the A/C switch and to the A/C indicator light. If this contact
on the ventilation fan switch is faulty, the A/C would not work and the
A/C indicator light would never come on. It is not unusual for these
switches to fail, I replaced one in an '87 Civic once.
If you want to test it, remove the fan switch. At the back of it is a 6
pin connector where the car wire harness connects. Orient the switch so
that the latch side is facing down. Looking at the connector, it should
look something like this (note: The upper row is *not* in alphabetical
order):
|-------------|
| A C B |
| |
| D E F |
|----| |----|
|---|
Measure the for continuity between pins A and B. There should be
continuity with the switch in any position except "off".
You can also use paper clips or wire stubs or something similar to short
together terminals A, B and C of the connector on the wire harness from
the car. If you start the car, the A/C should now turn on and the fan
should come on at low speed.
If you verify that the switch is bad, you can get a new one at
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com for around $35 + shipping &
handling.
If you want scans from the service manual, post a real e-mail address
and I'll send it to you.
Crazyeyes wrote:
>
> Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> coolant?
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
06-04-2004, 12:17 AM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
Jafir Elkurd wrote:
>
> I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of the
> inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
>
> "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > coolant?
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Carl
> >
> >
the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
Jafir Elkurd wrote:
>
> I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of the
> inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
>
> "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air. Is
> > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > coolant?
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Carl
> >
> >
06-04-2004, 07:51 AM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Sure looks like the a/c indicator runs off of fuse 5 in the dash fuse box,
which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have an
86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it is
possible it could have changed.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40BFF747.9D2F12B@junkmail.com...
> According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
> the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
>
> Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> >
> > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of
the
> > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> >
> > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > >
> > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air.
Is
> > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > > coolant?
> > > --
> > > ~~~~~
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have an
86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it is
possible it could have changed.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40BFF747.9D2F12B@junkmail.com...
> According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
> the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
>
> Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> >
> > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of
the
> > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> >
> > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > >
> > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air.
Is
> > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > > coolant?
> > > --
> > > ~~~~~
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
06-04-2004, 08:59 AM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Ok this morning I checked that fuse and sure enough it was blown. I put a
new one in and it blew right away. So I'm guessing the power clutch ?
--
~~~~~
Carl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Knowledge is power, and for each level of knowledge, you are held
responsible for it."
- Gary Zukav
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10c0oida622av88@corp.supernews.com...
> Sure looks like the a/c indicator runs off of fuse 5 in the dash fuse box,
> which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have
an
> 86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it is
> possible it could have changed.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40BFF747.9D2F12B@junkmail.com...
> > According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
> > the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
> >
> > Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of
> the
> > > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> > >
> > > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > >
> > > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air.
> Is
> > > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > > > coolant?
> > > > --
> > > > ~~~~~
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
new one in and it blew right away. So I'm guessing the power clutch ?
--
~~~~~
Carl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Knowledge is power, and for each level of knowledge, you are held
responsible for it."
- Gary Zukav
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10c0oida622av88@corp.supernews.com...
> Sure looks like the a/c indicator runs off of fuse 5 in the dash fuse box,
> which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have
an
> 86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it is
> possible it could have changed.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40BFF747.9D2F12B@junkmail.com...
> > According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
> > the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
> >
> > Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some of
> the
> > > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> > >
> > > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > >
> > > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and A/C
> > > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot air.
> Is
> > > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low on
> > > > coolant?
> > > > --
> > > > ~~~~~
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
06-04-2004, 04:57 PM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Jafir Elkurd wrote:
>
> Sure looks like the a/c indicator runs off of fuse 5 in the dash fuse box,
> which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have an
> 86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it is
> possible it could have changed.
My mistake. I was looking at the condenser fan, not the compressor
clutch
06-14-2004, 02:23 PM
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Re: '86 Honda Accord A/C Problem
Disconnect the wire at the clutch and turn on the A/C with a new fuse
installed. If the fuse blows without the clutch in the circuit then the
clutch is not the problem.
"Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
newsm_vc.42931$mQ4.1671@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Ok this morning I checked that fuse and sure enough it was blown. I put a
> new one in and it blew right away. So I'm guessing the power clutch ?
>
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Knowledge is power, and for each level of knowledge, you are held
> responsible for it."
>
> - Gary Zukav
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:10c0oida622av88@corp.supernews.com...
> > Sure looks like the a/c indicator runs off of fuse 5 in the dash fuse
box,
> > which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have
> an
> > 86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it
is
> > possible it could have changed.
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40BFF747.9D2F12B@junkmail.com...
> > > According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
> > > the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
> > >
> > > Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some
of
> > the
> > > > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> > > >
> > > > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and
A/C
> > > > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot
air.
> > Is
> > > > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low
on
> > > > > coolant?
> > > > > --
> > > > > ~~~~~
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
installed. If the fuse blows without the clutch in the circuit then the
clutch is not the problem.
"Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
news
m_vc.42931$mQ4.1671@fe2.texas.rr.com...> Ok this morning I checked that fuse and sure enough it was blown. I put a
> new one in and it blew right away. So I'm guessing the power clutch ?
>
> --
> ~~~~~
> Carl
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Knowledge is power, and for each level of knowledge, you are held
> responsible for it."
>
> - Gary Zukav
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:10c0oida622av88@corp.supernews.com...
> > Sure looks like the a/c indicator runs off of fuse 5 in the dash fuse
box,
> > which according to the ETM also seems to power the clutch. I don't have
> an
> > 86 service manual any more, this comes from an 87 manual and ETM.... it
is
> > possible it could have changed.
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40BFF747.9D2F12B@junkmail.com...
> > > According to the 86 through 89 service manual I found in the internet,
> > > the clutch coil is not on the same fuse as the indicator light.
> > >
> > > Jafir Elkurd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think I recall the a/c clutch coil being on the same fuse as some
of
> > the
> > > > inside light, and causing them to blow when it goes bad.
> > > >
> > > > "Crazyeyes" <yeahright@bite.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:mROvc.54674$lY2.15249@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > Today while driving down the road the lights for the recycle and
A/C
> > > > > indicator buttons just went out and the A/C started blowing hot
air.
> > Is
> > > > > there a fuse some where that could have blown? Or could it be low
on
> > > > > coolant?
> > > > > --
> > > > > ~~~~~
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
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