Re: 87 Accord oil burning when cold.
 

In article <GX9ke.2718$NL1.2650@fe02.lga>, "John" <jlove2b@charter.net> wrote:

> "Matt Ion" <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
> news:Pm5ke.1447034$8l.54645@pd7tw1no...
> >I used to have an '87 Accord seadn (2.0/2bbl/5spd) that developed a habit
> >of burning oil REAL BAD when it was cold, but as soon as it warmed up, the
> >oil burning cleared up completely - flew thru emissions test, no problems.
> >It was suggested a worn valve seal was the culprit (would expand and close
> >up once warm), so I had the head rebuilt, to no avail.
> >
> > Anyway, I lived with it (as did my neighbors) for a while until I wrote
> > the car off...
> >
> > Now I've picked up an '87 Accord hatchback, with the same engine and the
> > same problem, though not as bad (yet). The thing runs great, compression
> > to spare; I suspect the engine was rebuilt not too long ago, because it
> > goes like stink. There's gotta be something else.
> >
> > Two out of three near-identicals Accords now with this problem - is this a
> > known thing? Is there a known fix?
> >
> > Only other possible thing I can think of is the PCV valve, which I
> > couldn't replace on the first car because I could never get the %@#*$&
> > thing out of the @^$#)# manifold... now I've managed to get it loose and
> > replace it on this one, and just waiting to get the alternator working
> > again to try it out. Unless someone has another suggestion?
> >
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> I had an '85 with the 1.8 engine that did the same thing. When the weather
> was cold like 35 degrees F or less it would smoke bad til it warmed up. It
> had good compression and ran great. I decide to put rings in it and when I
> pulled the pistons I found that the oil control rings on every one of them
> was stuck in the ring grooves. There was very little wear in the bores and
> ring end gaps of the compression rings were all well within specs. I
> cleaned the grooves, honed the cylinders and put in the new rings and the
> problem was solved. I wondered if there would have been some way to free the
> rings up with out pulling them. Anyway it's got about 6,000 miles on it
> since then and doesn't smoke at all now.
>
> John

John,
Excellent post. I believe that you are correct as to the cause of the
problem. It makes perfect sense to anyone that has ever worked on lots of
engines. I have never seen this problem while working on engines. It would
be a problem that would be hard to find unless you were looking for it. I
learned a lot from your post.
Jason

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