Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Thanks that info is much useful, as much as I hope it isn't the problem
it sure sounds like it is. I just had it running with the new pcv valve
and I cleaned the warm air flapper in the intake
as it was gummed shut due large amounts of gummy oil, still didn't help
it shut off after about 10 minutes and the coolant hoses were already
too hot to touch. If I remember correctly when I pulled one of the
spark plugs it WAS white too. Only other new thing is I shut the car
off at about 5 minutes of running it and it dieseled a little bit.
Thanks again for the help I WILL figure this out soon, Tanner

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Thanks that info is much useful, as much as I hope it isn't the problem
it sure sounds like it is. I just had it running with the new pcv valve
and I cleaned the warm air flapper in the intake
as it was gummed shut due large amounts of gummy oil, still didn't help
it shut off after about 10 minutes and the coolant hoses were already
too hot to touch. If I remember correctly when I pulled one of the
spark plugs it WAS white too. Only other new thing is I shut the car
off at about 5 minutes of running it and it dieseled a little bit.
Thanks again for the help I WILL figure this out soon, Tanner

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Thanks that info is much useful, as much as I hope it isn't the problem
it sure sounds like it is. I just had it running with the new pcv valve
and I cleaned the warm air flapper in the intake
as it was gummed shut due large amounts of gummy oil, still didn't help
it shut off after about 10 minutes and the coolant hoses were already
too hot to touch. If I remember correctly when I pulled one of the
spark plugs it WAS white too. Only other new thing is I shut the car
off at about 5 minutes of running it and it dieseled a little bit.
Thanks again for the help I WILL figure this out soon, Tanner

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

>:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines, cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

>:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines, cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

>:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines, cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Tanner wrote:
> >:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines, cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
> I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
> to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.

One other thing... When it konks out, does the speed of the starter
get faster, or sound irregular? If carbon expands and keeps the
valves from closing, the loss of compression will usually make the
starter speed/sound change a bit. If you are getting spark, the
present
coil is probably good. With what you describe, I would probably suspect
lack of fuel before lack of spark. But...It could still be carbon.. I
was thinking
you could do a pump volume test, but my book doesn't give a spec for
volume vs time in seconds. They say to test the pressure with a gauge.
The carb version should do 2.4-3.4 psi.
MK

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Tanner wrote:
> >:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines, cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
> I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
> to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.

One other thing... When it konks out, does the speed of the starter
get faster, or sound irregular? If carbon expands and keeps the
valves from closing, the loss of compression will usually make the
starter speed/sound change a bit. If you are getting spark, the
present
coil is probably good. With what you describe, I would probably suspect
lack of fuel before lack of spark. But...It could still be carbon.. I
was thinking
you could do a pump volume test, but my book doesn't give a spec for
volume vs time in seconds. They say to test the pressure with a gauge.
The carb version should do 2.4-3.4 psi.
MK

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Tanner wrote:
> >:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines, cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
> I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
> to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.

One other thing... When it konks out, does the speed of the starter
get faster, or sound irregular? If carbon expands and keeps the
valves from closing, the loss of compression will usually make the
starter speed/sound change a bit. If you are getting spark, the
present
coil is probably good. With what you describe, I would probably suspect
lack of fuel before lack of spark. But...It could still be carbon.. I
was thinking
you could do a pump volume test, but my book doesn't give a spec for
volume vs time in seconds. They say to test the pressure with a gauge.
The carb version should do 2.4-3.4 psi.
MK

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

"Tanner" <viceroyhdawg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154583886.270077.180060@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat
> >so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't
> >be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines,
> >cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary
> >fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function
> >and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd
> >an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out
> >grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
> I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
> to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.
>

I agree with Elle; the coil is on the top of my suspect list. BTW - when you
get the replacement don't forget it is a big no-no to fire the coil without
a load. The coil will short out.

Mike

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

"Tanner" <viceroyhdawg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154583886.270077.180060@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat
> >so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't
> >be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines,
> >cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary
> >fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function
> >and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd
> >an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out
> >grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
> I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
> to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.
>

I agree with Elle; the coil is on the top of my suspect list. BTW - when you
get the replacement don't forget it is a big no-no to fire the coil without
a load. The coil will short out.

Mike

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

"Tanner" <viceroyhdawg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154583886.270077.180060@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >:( I worked on it from 7 am to 12 am to no avail in the blistering heat
> >so you can imagine I'm about to give up as I HAVE to get to work I can't
> >be getting rides ar 12am much longer. I checked all the vaccum lines,
> >cleaned the warm air flappper, replaced PCV valve, replaced auxuliary
> >fuel filter, tested choke function, tested fuel cut off relay function
> >and related circuitry, listened to the fuel pump..........IDK. I orderd
> >an ignition coil as I could get a spark plug to work when I pulled it out
> >grounded it and cranked the motor over (after it had stalled).
> I Doubt this $45 fix will help it but it's worth a shot, also when goes
> to stall if I slam the gas it does nothing.
>

I agree with Elle; the coil is on the top of my suspect list. BTW - when you
get the replacement don't forget it is a big no-no to fire the coil without
a load. The coil will short out.

Mike

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Tanner wrote:
>
> I just bought an 88 Accord LX and once it reaches running temperature
> it either starts misfiring severely then stalls or just straight up
> stalls. When it dies it's instant, like it just stopped receiving spark
> and then it will not start at all unless I let it sit for like an hour.

--------------------------

Since the car is new-to-you, did you check to see if the igniter has the
proper heat-sink paste on the backside (like a Pentium Chip).

If it can't keep cool, it will shut down like you described. I think we
had another one like this a few months ago. I may be wrong.

'Curly'

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Tanner wrote:
>
> I just bought an 88 Accord LX and once it reaches running temperature
> it either starts misfiring severely then stalls or just straight up
> stalls. When it dies it's instant, like it just stopped receiving spark
> and then it will not start at all unless I let it sit for like an hour.

--------------------------

Since the car is new-to-you, did you check to see if the igniter has the
proper heat-sink paste on the backside (like a Pentium Chip).

If it can't keep cool, it will shut down like you described. I think we
had another one like this a few months ago. I may be wrong.

'Curly'

Re: 88 Accord LX shutting off after warming up
 

Tanner wrote:
>
> I just bought an 88 Accord LX and once it reaches running temperature
> it either starts misfiring severely then stalls or just straight up
> stalls. When it dies it's instant, like it just stopped receiving spark
> and then it will not start at all unless I let it sit for like an hour.

--------------------------

Since the car is new-to-you, did you check to see if the igniter has the
proper heat-sink paste on the backside (like a Pentium Chip).

If it can't keep cool, it will shut down like you described. I think we
had another one like this a few months ago. I may be wrong.

'Curly'