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|| 09-06-2005 03:53 PM

92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 
I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.

I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.

1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the starter.
It was not send anything when you turn the key.
2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
starter turns over.

What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the ignition?
Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?

Lex


Remco 09-06-2005 06:39 PM

Re: 92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 

|| wrote:
> I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.
>
> I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.
>
> 1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the starter.
> It was not send anything when you turn the key.
> 2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
> power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
> starter turns over.
>
> What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
> might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the ignition?
> Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?
>
> Lex


I don't have a schematic to a 92 civic but only a 94 -- suspect it is
similar. It has a an interlock switch on the clutch pedal that closes
an interlock relay. The relay contacts are in basically series with the
ignition switch 'start' position. The other side of the relay's contact
goes to the starter relay.

I'd check the pedal first. You should see 12V across the interlock
switch with the clutch released. When pressed, this voltage should go
to ground.
If you don't, make sure one side of the switch is grounded.
Else, make sure the interlock relay is ok and 12V is getting to one
side of it.

Remco


Remco


Randolph 09-07-2005 12:00 AM

Re: 92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 

Remco wrote:
>
> || wrote:
> > I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.
> >
> > I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.
> >
> > 1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the starter.
> > It was not send anything when you turn the key.
> > 2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
> > power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
> > starter turns over.
> >
> > What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
> > might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the ignition?
> > Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?
> >
> > Lex

>
> I don't have a schematic to a 92 civic but only a 94 -- suspect it is
> similar. It has a an interlock switch on the clutch pedal that closes
> an interlock relay. The relay contacts are in basically series with the
> ignition switch 'start' position. The other side of the relay's contact
> goes to the starter relay.
>
> I'd check the pedal first. You should see 12V across the interlock
> switch with the clutch released. When pressed, this voltage should go
> to ground.
> If you don't, make sure one side of the switch is grounded.
> Else, make sure the interlock relay is ok and 12V is getting to one
> side of it.
>
> Remco


After-market alarms often come with starter inhibit. This is simply a
relay that is put in series with either the clutch switch or the starter
interlock relay. If your car has an alarm, you might want to check the
alarm and related wiring.
--
================================================== =====
A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph

|| 09-07-2005 10:54 AM

Re: 92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 
What tool do I use to check the voltage. Is their an image of this online?
Is it on the pedal?
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126046392.614064.252470@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> || wrote:
> > I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.
> >
> > I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.
> >
> > 1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the starter.
> > It was not send anything when you turn the key.
> > 2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
> > power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
> > starter turns over.
> >
> > What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
> > might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the ignition?
> > Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?
> >
> > Lex

>
> I don't have a schematic to a 92 civic but only a 94 -- suspect it is
> similar. It has a an interlock switch on the clutch pedal that closes
> an interlock relay. The relay contacts are in basically series with the
> ignition switch 'start' position. The other side of the relay's contact
> goes to the starter relay.
>
> I'd check the pedal first. You should see 12V across the interlock
> switch with the clutch released. When pressed, this voltage should go
> to ground.
> If you don't, make sure one side of the switch is grounded.
> Else, make sure the interlock relay is ok and 12V is getting to one
> side of it.
>
> Remco
>
>
> Remco
>




|| 09-07-2005 10:56 AM

Re: 92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 
Randolph,

I current do not have an alarm. I recent acquired the car and did not
notice an alarm. They did do lots of other modifictions like adding a sun
roof and power windows to this DX.

Lex

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:431E6704.95928EDD@junkmail.com...
>
> Remco wrote:
> >
> > || wrote:
> > > I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.
> > >
> > > I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.
> > >
> > > 1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the

starter.
> > > It was not send anything when you turn the key.
> > > 2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
> > > power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
> > > starter turns over.
> > >
> > > What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
> > > might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the

ignition?
> > > Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?
> > >
> > > Lex

> >
> > I don't have a schematic to a 92 civic but only a 94 -- suspect it is
> > similar. It has a an interlock switch on the clutch pedal that closes
> > an interlock relay. The relay contacts are in basically series with the
> > ignition switch 'start' position. The other side of the relay's contact
> > goes to the starter relay.
> >
> > I'd check the pedal first. You should see 12V across the interlock
> > switch with the clutch released. When pressed, this voltage should go
> > to ground.
> > If you don't, make sure one side of the switch is grounded.
> > Else, make sure the interlock relay is ok and 12V is getting to one
> > side of it.
> >
> > Remco

>
> After-market alarms often come with starter inhibit. This is simply a
> relay that is put in series with either the clutch switch or the starter
> interlock relay. If your car has an alarm, you might want to check the
> alarm and related wiring.
> --
> ================================================== =====
> A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
> http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph




|| 09-07-2005 11:00 AM

Re: 92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 
Randolph,

I think this is your site http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph This is a
great contribution to the online knowledge pool, thanks. I wish more site
had photos like this. I will do a primer soon on something with the honda.

Lex

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:431E6704.95928EDD@junkmail.com...
>
> Remco wrote:
> >
> > || wrote:
> > > I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.
> > >
> > > I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.
> > >
> > > 1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the

starter.
> > > It was not send anything when you turn the key.
> > > 2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
> > > power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
> > > starter turns over.
> > >
> > > What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
> > > might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the

ignition?
> > > Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?
> > >
> > > Lex

> >
> > I don't have a schematic to a 92 civic but only a 94 -- suspect it is
> > similar. It has a an interlock switch on the clutch pedal that closes
> > an interlock relay. The relay contacts are in basically series with the
> > ignition switch 'start' position. The other side of the relay's contact
> > goes to the starter relay.
> >
> > I'd check the pedal first. You should see 12V across the interlock
> > switch with the clutch released. When pressed, this voltage should go
> > to ground.
> > If you don't, make sure one side of the switch is grounded.
> > Else, make sure the interlock relay is ok and 12V is getting to one
> > side of it.
> >
> > Remco

>
> After-market alarms often come with starter inhibit. This is simply a
> relay that is put in series with either the clutch switch or the starter
> interlock relay. If your car has an alarm, you might want to check the
> alarm and related wiring.
> --
> ================================================== =====
> A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
> http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph




Remco 09-07-2005 11:27 AM

Re: 92 Honda Civiv DX/ starter works with direct power??
 
|| wrote:
> What tool do I use to check the voltage. Is their an image of this online?
> Is it on the pedal?
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1126046392.614064.252470@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> >

A volt meter. You could get a cheapy at Radio Shack or Sears.
You could also get a voltage finder -- basically a large pen looking
device having lights and a wire on one end.

Sorry, but I assumed you have some basic electrical skills. If this is
beyond what you feel comfortable with, you may want to ask someone else
to do it. (there's no shame in asking a friend for help).


> > || wrote:
> > > I have a 92 Honda Civiv DX manual transmission.
> > >
> > > I went to start the car and noticed the starter would not turn over.
> > >
> > > 1. I check with a test light the wire that sends power to the starter.
> > > It was not send anything when you turn the key.
> > > 2. I attached a wired to that place on the starter that accepts the
> > > power and did a direct connect to the batteries positive pole and the
> > > starter turns over.
> > >
> > > What next? What could be wrong? I assume that the next things that
> > > might be wrong is something on the clutch pedal or within the ignition?
> > > Any suggestions on what to check and how to check it?
> > >
> > > Lex

> >
> > I don't have a schematic to a 92 civic but only a 94 -- suspect it is
> > similar. It has a an interlock switch on the clutch pedal that closes
> > an interlock relay. The relay contacts are in basically series with the
> > ignition switch 'start' position. The other side of the relay's contact
> > goes to the starter relay.
> >
> > I'd check the pedal first. You should see 12V across the interlock
> > switch with the clutch released. When pressed, this voltage should go
> > to ground.
> > If you don't, make sure one side of the switch is grounded.
> > Else, make sure the interlock relay is ok and 12V is getting to one
> > side of it.
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
> > Remco
> >




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