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Re: 93 Accord overheating
WORSS wrote:
> > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in upstate > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems to > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, the > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I checked > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was empty > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture and > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose pretty > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? Could > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that pretty > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the timing > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > Thank you for your help. > > Bill ================================ Worss, With the engine COOL or COLD, open the radiator cap and look inside. It should be full to the top. If it's not full enough, top it up. The stuff you added to the reservoir would eventually get sucked into the rad, after you run (and overheat) the engine a few more times, but only if the cooling system is intact (which it probably isn't if your coolant is low). Without enough coolant, some sensors aren't even emmersed, and the thermostat won't open no matter how hot it gets in your engine, if it's not sitting in coolant... (Fans also may not run) Follow the directions in the owner's manual an check ALL your fluid levels on a regular basis. Keeps Murphy's Law at bay. 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
WORSS wrote:
> > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in upstate > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems to > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, the > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I checked > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was empty > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture and > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose pretty > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? Could > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that pretty > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the timing > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > Thank you for your help. > > Bill ================================ Worss, With the engine COOL or COLD, open the radiator cap and look inside. It should be full to the top. If it's not full enough, top it up. The stuff you added to the reservoir would eventually get sucked into the rad, after you run (and overheat) the engine a few more times, but only if the cooling system is intact (which it probably isn't if your coolant is low). Without enough coolant, some sensors aren't even emmersed, and the thermostat won't open no matter how hot it gets in your engine, if it's not sitting in coolant... (Fans also may not run) Follow the directions in the owner's manual an check ALL your fluid levels on a regular basis. Keeps Murphy's Law at bay. 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the
two fans. Neither one is running. Should they come on immediately when I start the car or will the fans only come on when the temperature sensors reach a certain temperature? Thanks, Bill "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:5Lqdnf3IUbk3Km2iRVn-sw@comcast.com... > well if you have a/c a quick way to tell if the fans motors are working is > to simply start the car and turn on the a/c system. Both fans should come > on. At least my 996 accord has two fans if you have one fan then it should > come on while the a/c is on. > > That will narrow it down a bit. > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:hF1Ib.89901$UY6.45506@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Okay...did a little more research on this issue as I have the service > manual > > for the car from Honda. It appears to me that it could be the main > > thermostat, the ETC thermostat/switch that controls the fan, or the fan > > itself? Would you agree? While the manual does tell you how to test the > > thermostat, it does not tell you how to test the ETC switch. Anyone have > > any idea how you test this. I would assume you could check resistance at > > room temperature and at an elevated temperature? I was surprised that the > > manual did not tell me how to troubleshoot this area of the car! > > > > Thanks again! > > > > Bill > > > > > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in > > upstate > > > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems > to > > > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, > > the > > > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I > checked > > > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was > > empty > > > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture > and > > > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose > > pretty > > > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > > > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > > > > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? > Could > > > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that > pretty > > > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the > > timing > > > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > > > > > Thank you for your help. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the
two fans. Neither one is running. Should they come on immediately when I start the car or will the fans only come on when the temperature sensors reach a certain temperature? Thanks, Bill "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:5Lqdnf3IUbk3Km2iRVn-sw@comcast.com... > well if you have a/c a quick way to tell if the fans motors are working is > to simply start the car and turn on the a/c system. Both fans should come > on. At least my 996 accord has two fans if you have one fan then it should > come on while the a/c is on. > > That will narrow it down a bit. > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:hF1Ib.89901$UY6.45506@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Okay...did a little more research on this issue as I have the service > manual > > for the car from Honda. It appears to me that it could be the main > > thermostat, the ETC thermostat/switch that controls the fan, or the fan > > itself? Would you agree? While the manual does tell you how to test the > > thermostat, it does not tell you how to test the ETC switch. Anyone have > > any idea how you test this. I would assume you could check resistance at > > room temperature and at an elevated temperature? I was surprised that the > > manual did not tell me how to troubleshoot this area of the car! > > > > Thanks again! > > > > Bill > > > > > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in > > upstate > > > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems > to > > > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, > > the > > > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I > checked > > > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was > > empty > > > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture > and > > > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose > > pretty > > > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > > > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > > > > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? > Could > > > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that > pretty > > > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the > > timing > > > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > > > > > Thank you for your help. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the
two fans. Neither one is running. Should they come on immediately when I start the car or will the fans only come on when the temperature sensors reach a certain temperature? Thanks, Bill "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:5Lqdnf3IUbk3Km2iRVn-sw@comcast.com... > well if you have a/c a quick way to tell if the fans motors are working is > to simply start the car and turn on the a/c system. Both fans should come > on. At least my 996 accord has two fans if you have one fan then it should > come on while the a/c is on. > > That will narrow it down a bit. > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:hF1Ib.89901$UY6.45506@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Okay...did a little more research on this issue as I have the service > manual > > for the car from Honda. It appears to me that it could be the main > > thermostat, the ETC thermostat/switch that controls the fan, or the fan > > itself? Would you agree? While the manual does tell you how to test the > > thermostat, it does not tell you how to test the ETC switch. Anyone have > > any idea how you test this. I would assume you could check resistance at > > room temperature and at an elevated temperature? I was surprised that the > > manual did not tell me how to troubleshoot this area of the car! > > > > Thanks again! > > > > Bill > > > > > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in > > upstate > > > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems > to > > > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, > > the > > > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I > checked > > > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was > > empty > > > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture > and > > > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose > > pretty > > > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > > > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > > > > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? > Could > > > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that > pretty > > > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the > > timing > > > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > > > > > Thank you for your help. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the
two fans. Neither one is running. Should they come on immediately when I start the car or will the fans only come on when the temperature sensors reach a certain temperature? Thanks, Bill "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:5Lqdnf3IUbk3Km2iRVn-sw@comcast.com... > well if you have a/c a quick way to tell if the fans motors are working is > to simply start the car and turn on the a/c system. Both fans should come > on. At least my 996 accord has two fans if you have one fan then it should > come on while the a/c is on. > > That will narrow it down a bit. > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:hF1Ib.89901$UY6.45506@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Okay...did a little more research on this issue as I have the service > manual > > for the car from Honda. It appears to me that it could be the main > > thermostat, the ETC thermostat/switch that controls the fan, or the fan > > itself? Would you agree? While the manual does tell you how to test the > > thermostat, it does not tell you how to test the ETC switch. Anyone have > > any idea how you test this. I would assume you could check resistance at > > room temperature and at an elevated temperature? I was surprised that the > > manual did not tell me how to troubleshoot this area of the car! > > > > Thanks again! > > > > Bill > > > > > > "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in > > upstate > > > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems > to > > > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, > > the > > > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I > checked > > > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was > > empty > > > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture > and > > > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose > > pretty > > > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > > > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > > > > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? > Could > > > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that > pretty > > > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the > > timing > > > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > > > > > Thank you for your help. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:5cgIb.92437$UY6.31105@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the > two fans. Neither one is running. Sounds like you have a blown fuse or a bad connection somewhere, unless both fan motors are burned out. Try applying power directly to the fan connectors and see if the fan run. Fans are run by relays, so a) check the power to the hot side of the relay. This may be supplied by a fusible link. b) if OK, check the relay control circuit. This is where you should find a fuse. Does anything else not work? Stewart DIBBS |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:5cgIb.92437$UY6.31105@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the > two fans. Neither one is running. Sounds like you have a blown fuse or a bad connection somewhere, unless both fan motors are burned out. Try applying power directly to the fan connectors and see if the fan run. Fans are run by relays, so a) check the power to the hot side of the relay. This may be supplied by a fusible link. b) if OK, check the relay control circuit. This is where you should find a fuse. Does anything else not work? Stewart DIBBS |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:5cgIb.92437$UY6.31105@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the > two fans. Neither one is running. Sounds like you have a blown fuse or a bad connection somewhere, unless both fan motors are burned out. Try applying power directly to the fan connectors and see if the fan run. Fans are run by relays, so a) check the power to the hot side of the relay. This may be supplied by a fusible link. b) if OK, check the relay control circuit. This is where you should find a fuse. Does anything else not work? Stewart DIBBS |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
"WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:5cgIb.92437$UY6.31105@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Thanks for the input. I started the car, turned on the A/C and checked the > two fans. Neither one is running. Sounds like you have a blown fuse or a bad connection somewhere, unless both fan motors are burned out. Try applying power directly to the fan connectors and see if the fan run. Fans are run by relays, so a) check the power to the hot side of the relay. This may be supplied by a fusible link. b) if OK, check the relay control circuit. This is where you should find a fuse. Does anything else not work? Stewart DIBBS |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in upstate > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems to > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, the > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I checked > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was empty > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture and > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose pretty > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? Could > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that pretty > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the timing > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > Thank you for your help. > > Bill > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in upstate > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems to > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, the > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I checked > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was empty > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture and > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose pretty > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? Could > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that pretty > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the timing > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > Thank you for your help. > > Bill > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in upstate > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems to > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, the > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I checked > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was empty > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture and > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose pretty > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? Could > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that pretty > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the timing > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > Thank you for your help. > > Bill > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. "WORSS" <wrector@nospam.nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:na1Ib.89888$UY6.50120@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I have a 93 Accord that began overheating this afternoon. I live in upstate > NY and the temperature outside is between 30 and 40 degrees. It seems to > overheat quickly while the car is sitting but, according to my daughter, the > temperature gauge comes back to the normal range while moving. I checked > the reservoir and it seemed to be very low....could not tell if it was empty > but I did see some liquid in it. I filled it up with a 50/50 mixture and > started the car (which was already warm). The temperature gauge rose pretty > quickly towards the red zone so I turned the car off. I can say that I > don't believe the two fans came on at all. > > So...any ideas? What do I check? What causes the fans to turn on? Could > this simply be a defective thermostat? I guess I could check that pretty > easily. I believe the water pump was replaced when they replaced the timing > belt which was 30-40K ago. > > Thank you for your help. > > Bill > > > |
Re: 93 Accord overheating
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:uQjIb.5481$Vl6.1421806@news20.bellglobal.com. .. > You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who > are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. And all the mechanics in other garages, and of course the knowledgeable people in this NG, are not? Stewart DIBBS |
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