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Ivan Demkovitch 09-26-2003 09:08 PM

94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi!

I have some strange problems with electric system.

When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will come
on in about 2 seconds.

When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually start
working.

I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
same problem.
Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with time.

?

Thanks



Tony Hwang 09-26-2003 10:07 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi,
Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
Tony

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have some strange problems with electric system.
>
> When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will come
> on in about 2 seconds.
>
> When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually start
> working.
>
> I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
> same problem.
> Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with time.
>
> ?
>
> Thanks
>
>



Tony Hwang 09-26-2003 10:07 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi,
Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
Tony

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have some strange problems with electric system.
>
> When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will come
> on in about 2 seconds.
>
> When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually start
> working.
>
> I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
> same problem.
> Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with time.
>
> ?
>
> Thanks
>
>



Tony Hwang 09-26-2003 10:07 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi,
Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
Tony

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have some strange problems with electric system.
>
> When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will come
> on in about 2 seconds.
>
> When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually start
> working.
>
> I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
> same problem.
> Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with time.
>
> ?
>
> Thanks
>
>



Ivan Demkovitch 09-26-2003 10:29 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Tony,

I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new (replaced week
ago)
It didn't change a thing...

"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
> Tony
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have some strange problems with electric system.
> >
> > When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will

come
> > on in about 2 seconds.
> >
> > When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually

start
> > working.
> >
> > I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
> > same problem.
> > Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with

time.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




Ivan Demkovitch 09-26-2003 10:29 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Tony,

I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new (replaced week
ago)
It didn't change a thing...

"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
> Tony
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have some strange problems with electric system.
> >
> > When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will

come
> > on in about 2 seconds.
> >
> > When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually

start
> > working.
> >
> > I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
> > same problem.
> > Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with

time.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




Ivan Demkovitch 09-26-2003 10:29 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Tony,

I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new (replaced week
ago)
It didn't change a thing...

"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
> Tony
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have some strange problems with electric system.
> >
> > When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will

come
> > on in about 2 seconds.
> >
> > When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually

start
> > working.
> >
> > I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
> > same problem.
> > Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with

time.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




Tony Hwang 09-26-2003 10:37 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi,
Check poor ground connection on affected circuits.
Tony

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:

> Tony,
>
> I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new (replaced week
> ago)
> It didn't change a thing...
>
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
>
>>Hi,
>>Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
>>Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
>>Tony
>>
>>Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I have some strange problems with electric system.
>>>
>>>When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will

>
> come
>
>>>on in about 2 seconds.
>>>
>>>When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually

>
> start
>
>>>working.
>>>
>>>I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
>>>same problem.
>>>Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with

>
> time.
>
>>>?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Tony Hwang 09-26-2003 10:37 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi,
Check poor ground connection on affected circuits.
Tony

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:

> Tony,
>
> I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new (replaced week
> ago)
> It didn't change a thing...
>
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
>
>>Hi,
>>Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
>>Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
>>Tony
>>
>>Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I have some strange problems with electric system.
>>>
>>>When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will

>
> come
>
>>>on in about 2 seconds.
>>>
>>>When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually

>
> start
>
>>>working.
>>>
>>>I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
>>>same problem.
>>>Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with

>
> time.
>
>>>?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Tony Hwang 09-26-2003 10:37 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Hi,
Check poor ground connection on affected circuits.
Tony

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:

> Tony,
>
> I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new (replaced week
> ago)
> It didn't change a thing...
>
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
>
>>Hi,
>>Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
>>Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
>>Tony
>>
>>Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I have some strange problems with electric system.
>>>
>>>When you turn lights on dash will come up immediately, but lights will

>
> come
>
>>>on in about 2 seconds.
>>>
>>>When you turn wipers on it could be like 5 seconds until they actually

>
> start
>
>>>working.
>>>
>>>I understand it's most likely relay but want to hear from people who had
>>>same problem.
>>>Also, it seems problem with wipers delay gets worse (longer wait) with

>
> time.
>
>>>?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



w_tom 09-26-2003 11:01 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Why was your battery replaced? Because charging system is
not working properly? The only way to answer Tony Hwang's
question is to measure vehicle system voltage. New battery
would not solve the problem. Defective battery would be
another symptom of that same problem.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Tony,
>
> I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new
> (replaced week ago) It didn't change a thing...
>
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
>> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
>> Tony


w_tom 09-26-2003 11:01 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Why was your battery replaced? Because charging system is
not working properly? The only way to answer Tony Hwang's
question is to measure vehicle system voltage. New battery
would not solve the problem. Defective battery would be
another symptom of that same problem.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Tony,
>
> I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new
> (replaced week ago) It didn't change a thing...
>
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
>> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
>> Tony


w_tom 09-26-2003 11:01 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Why was your battery replaced? Because charging system is
not working properly? The only way to answer Tony Hwang's
question is to measure vehicle system voltage. New battery
would not solve the problem. Defective battery would be
another symptom of that same problem.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Tony,
>
> I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new
> (replaced week ago) It didn't change a thing...
>
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
>> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
>> Tony


Ivan Demkovitch 09-27-2003 12:00 AM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Problem existed for a while (about a year)
I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging system...

Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced it with new
one.
So, I don't think its related....

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F74FD6D.56815EAA@hotmail.com...
> Why was your battery replaced? Because charging system is
> not working properly? The only way to answer Tony Hwang's
> question is to measure vehicle system voltage. New battery
> would not solve the problem. Defective battery would be
> another symptom of that same problem.
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> > Tony,
> >
> > I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new
> > (replaced week ago) It didn't change a thing...
> >
> > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
> >> Hi,
> >> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
> >> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
> >> Tony




Ivan Demkovitch 09-27-2003 12:00 AM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Problem existed for a while (about a year)
I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging system...

Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced it with new
one.
So, I don't think its related....

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F74FD6D.56815EAA@hotmail.com...
> Why was your battery replaced? Because charging system is
> not working properly? The only way to answer Tony Hwang's
> question is to measure vehicle system voltage. New battery
> would not solve the problem. Defective battery would be
> another symptom of that same problem.
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> > Tony,
> >
> > I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new
> > (replaced week ago) It didn't change a thing...
> >
> > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
> >> Hi,
> >> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
> >> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
> >> Tony




Ivan Demkovitch 09-27-2003 12:00 AM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Problem existed for a while (about a year)
I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging system...

Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced it with new
one.
So, I don't think its related....

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F74FD6D.56815EAA@hotmail.com...
> Why was your battery replaced? Because charging system is
> not working properly? The only way to answer Tony Hwang's
> question is to measure vehicle system voltage. New battery
> would not solve the problem. Defective battery would be
> another symptom of that same problem.
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> > Tony,
> >
> > I thought same thing before. But no, my battery is brand new
> > (replaced week ago) It didn't change a thing...
> >
> > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:Dh6db.28218$TM4.19681@pd7tw2no...
> >> Hi,
> >> Do you have a good battery holding a good charge?
> >> Wonder if you have a weak battery or charging system.
> >> Tony




w_tom 09-27-2003 07:05 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Granted we are speculating without sufficient information.
But a few facts. Delay of lights and delay of wipers would
involve separate electrical systems or relays. The only
common factor would be the system voltage.

BTW, my Honda batteries never lasted less than 7 years even
when always parked outside. Last battery went something over
nine years. It may just be me. But still, until system
voltage reading are taken with a digital multimeter (with
engine off, with engine on, and with engine on and every
peripheral on), then we cannot eliminate system voltage
(charging system) from a list of possibilities. System
voltage is the one common factor to 'strange' symptoms.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Problem existed for a while (about a year)
> I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging
> system...
>
> Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced
> it with new one.
> So, I don't think its related....


w_tom 09-27-2003 07:05 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Granted we are speculating without sufficient information.
But a few facts. Delay of lights and delay of wipers would
involve separate electrical systems or relays. The only
common factor would be the system voltage.

BTW, my Honda batteries never lasted less than 7 years even
when always parked outside. Last battery went something over
nine years. It may just be me. But still, until system
voltage reading are taken with a digital multimeter (with
engine off, with engine on, and with engine on and every
peripheral on), then we cannot eliminate system voltage
(charging system) from a list of possibilities. System
voltage is the one common factor to 'strange' symptoms.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Problem existed for a while (about a year)
> I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging
> system...
>
> Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced
> it with new one.
> So, I don't think its related....


w_tom 09-27-2003 07:05 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Granted we are speculating without sufficient information.
But a few facts. Delay of lights and delay of wipers would
involve separate electrical systems or relays. The only
common factor would be the system voltage.

BTW, my Honda batteries never lasted less than 7 years even
when always parked outside. Last battery went something over
nine years. It may just be me. But still, until system
voltage reading are taken with a digital multimeter (with
engine off, with engine on, and with engine on and every
peripheral on), then we cannot eliminate system voltage
(charging system) from a list of possibilities. System
voltage is the one common factor to 'strange' symptoms.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Problem existed for a while (about a year)
> I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging
> system...
>
> Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced
> it with new one.
> So, I don't think its related....


Ivan Demkovitch 09-28-2003 08:36 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Thanks.

Will check voltage first to make sure.

BTW, you probably use good batteries. Any battery I bought (and I buy
cheaper batteeries) never lasted more then 5-6 years...



"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F7617D2.D34A4865@hotmail.com...
> Granted we are speculating without sufficient information.
> But a few facts. Delay of lights and delay of wipers would
> involve separate electrical systems or relays. The only
> common factor would be the system voltage.
>
> BTW, my Honda batteries never lasted less than 7 years even
> when always parked outside. Last battery went something over
> nine years. It may just be me. But still, until system
> voltage reading are taken with a digital multimeter (with
> engine off, with engine on, and with engine on and every
> peripheral on), then we cannot eliminate system voltage
> (charging system) from a list of possibilities. System
> voltage is the one common factor to 'strange' symptoms.
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> > Problem existed for a while (about a year)
> > I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging
> > system...
> >
> > Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced
> > it with new one.
> > So, I don't think its related....




Ivan Demkovitch 09-28-2003 08:36 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Thanks.

Will check voltage first to make sure.

BTW, you probably use good batteries. Any battery I bought (and I buy
cheaper batteeries) never lasted more then 5-6 years...



"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F7617D2.D34A4865@hotmail.com...
> Granted we are speculating without sufficient information.
> But a few facts. Delay of lights and delay of wipers would
> involve separate electrical systems or relays. The only
> common factor would be the system voltage.
>
> BTW, my Honda batteries never lasted less than 7 years even
> when always parked outside. Last battery went something over
> nine years. It may just be me. But still, until system
> voltage reading are taken with a digital multimeter (with
> engine off, with engine on, and with engine on and every
> peripheral on), then we cannot eliminate system voltage
> (charging system) from a list of possibilities. System
> voltage is the one common factor to 'strange' symptoms.
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> > Problem existed for a while (about a year)
> > I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging
> > system...
> >
> > Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced
> > it with new one.
> > So, I don't think its related....




Ivan Demkovitch 09-28-2003 08:36 PM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
Thanks.

Will check voltage first to make sure.

BTW, you probably use good batteries. Any battery I bought (and I buy
cheaper batteeries) never lasted more then 5-6 years...



"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F7617D2.D34A4865@hotmail.com...
> Granted we are speculating without sufficient information.
> But a few facts. Delay of lights and delay of wipers would
> involve separate electrical systems or relays. The only
> common factor would be the system voltage.
>
> BTW, my Honda batteries never lasted less than 7 years even
> when always parked outside. Last battery went something over
> nine years. It may just be me. But still, until system
> voltage reading are taken with a digital multimeter (with
> engine off, with engine on, and with engine on and every
> peripheral on), then we cannot eliminate system voltage
> (charging system) from a list of possibilities. System
> voltage is the one common factor to 'strange' symptoms.
>
> Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> > Problem existed for a while (about a year)
> > I don't think battery would work for that long with bad charging
> > system...
> >
> > Battery was 4.5 years old and it just died last week. I replaced
> > it with new one.
> > So, I don't think its related....




w_tom 09-29-2003 12:24 AM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
In every case, the battery was original from Honda. One was
even a Delco battery.

Do be sure to report back. Your's is an interesting
problem.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Will check voltage first to make sure.
>
> BTW, you probably use good batteries. Any battery I bought (and I buy
> cheaper batteeries) never lasted more then 5-6 years...


w_tom 09-29-2003 12:24 AM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
In every case, the battery was original from Honda. One was
even a Delco battery.

Do be sure to report back. Your's is an interesting
problem.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Will check voltage first to make sure.
>
> BTW, you probably use good batteries. Any battery I bought (and I buy
> cheaper batteeries) never lasted more then 5-6 years...


w_tom 09-29-2003 12:24 AM

Re: 94 Accord electric problems..
 
In every case, the battery was original from Honda. One was
even a Delco battery.

Do be sure to report back. Your's is an interesting
problem.

Ivan Demkovitch wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Will check voltage first to make sure.
>
> BTW, you probably use good batteries. Any battery I bought (and I buy
> cheaper batteeries) never lasted more then 5-6 years...



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