Re: 95 Accord overheating,
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
wrote: >Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >news:l0fnp2hb89g329jbl6je55rse42b8cgm1j@4ax.com : > >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> >> wrote: >> >>>Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >>>news:ip6np2drji1378ilim8cu0at9ukdjlnfm7@4ax.com : >>> > >>>> Then, the last mile or so coming off the toll way and into the >>>> parking lot, the guage continues to rise slowly until I turn the car >>>> off, but not quite getting up the half way mark. >>>> >>>> Could this be just a thermostat? It's driving me crazy! >>> >>> >>> >>>Sounds like an old thermostat. 1/4" below the half-way mark is too >>>low. >> >> >> >> I bought the car with 24,000 miles on it. Since day one up until >> recently it's always come up to temp and sat the needle about 1/4 >> inch below the mid line on the guage. I'm thinkig that's normal since >> it always did it exactly the same way (except one time when the thermo >> failed stuck open and I couldn't get cabin heat, after it was replaced >> it went right back to the same place) and it never does come up to the >> exact half way point. Are you saying it should be at the half mark >> and it's been off all these years? > > > >Where are you measuring the 1/4" from? The very end of the needle? From >directly across the little thermometer picture? I'm eye-balling it, looking at the tip of the needle and the little horizontal bar on the left side of the guage. Yesterday, after the car cooled down for several hours, I took off the rad cap and could not see any coolant. The recovery tank was also empty. Having nothing else at my disposal I put about a 2 qts of water, total, into the rad and the recovery tank to bring things up to where I understand they should be. I know, I know, I shouldn't use plain water but I had no choice. Well, dang if it didn't act a while lot more like what I'd call normal on the way home. That improved the situation dramatically. When I got home and let it cool down again, the rad was now full to the top and the recovery tank only needed about a pint. Things are looking much better. The drive in today actually seemed like the normal I described earlier. I'll check the recovery tank again and top it off if necessary and i'll drive the car a few days like this to see if coolant is disappearing or if it was the "air in the system" problem others have suggested. Somebody had suggested possibly a head gasket problem. Possible? Symptoms? If the cooling system is not losing coolant (if it ever was) and it still seems to be working properly, I will definitely get the Honda coolant and have the system drained and refilled and I'll also get an OEM thermostat too. |
Re: 95 Accord overheating,
Philip Kline wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> > wrote: > >> Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >> news:l0fnp2hb89g329jbl6je55rse42b8cgm1j@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >>>> news:ip6np2drji1378ilim8cu0at9ukdjlnfm7@4ax.com: >>>> >> >>>>> Then, the last mile or so coming off the toll way and into the >>>>> parking lot, the guage continues to rise slowly until I turn the car >>>>> off, but not quite getting up the half way mark. >>>>> >>>>> Could this be just a thermostat? It's driving me crazy! >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like an old thermostat. 1/4" below the half-way mark is too >>>> low. >>> >>> >>> I bought the car with 24,000 miles on it. Since day one up until >>> recently it's always come up to temp and sat the needle about 1/4 >>> inch below the mid line on the guage. I'm thinkig that's normal since >>> it always did it exactly the same way (except one time when the thermo >>> failed stuck open and I couldn't get cabin heat, after it was replaced >>> it went right back to the same place) and it never does come up to the >>> exact half way point. Are you saying it should be at the half mark >>> and it's been off all these years? >> >> >> Where are you measuring the 1/4" from? The very end of the needle? From >> directly across the little thermometer picture? > > I'm eye-balling it, looking at the tip of the needle and the little > horizontal bar on the left side of the guage. > > Yesterday, after the car cooled down for several hours, I took off the > rad cap and could not see any coolant. The recovery tank was also > empty. Having nothing else at my disposal I put about a 2 qts of > water, total, into the rad and the recovery tank to bring things up to > where I understand they should be. I know, I know, I shouldn't use > plain water but I had no choice. > Well, dang if it didn't act a while lot more like what I'd call normal > on the way home. That improved the situation dramatically. > When I got home and let it cool down again, the rad was now full to > the top and the recovery tank only needed about a pint. Things are > looking much better. > The drive in today actually seemed like the normal I described > earlier. > I'll check the recovery tank again and top it off if necessary and > i'll drive the car a few days like this to see if coolant is > disappearing or if it was the "air in the system" problem others have > suggested. > Somebody had suggested possibly a head gasket problem. Possible? > Symptoms? not usually, head gasket mostly retains fluid, just blows bubbles in it. early stages anyway. more likely leaky hose, leaky rad or leaky water pump. > > If the cooling system is not losing coolant (if it ever was) and it > still seems to be working properly, I will definitely get the Honda > coolant and have the system drained and refilled and I'll also get an > OEM thermostat too. > good. |
Re: 95 Accord overheating,
Philip Kline wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> > wrote: > >> Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >> news:l0fnp2hb89g329jbl6je55rse42b8cgm1j@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >>>> news:ip6np2drji1378ilim8cu0at9ukdjlnfm7@4ax.com: >>>> >> >>>>> Then, the last mile or so coming off the toll way and into the >>>>> parking lot, the guage continues to rise slowly until I turn the car >>>>> off, but not quite getting up the half way mark. >>>>> >>>>> Could this be just a thermostat? It's driving me crazy! >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like an old thermostat. 1/4" below the half-way mark is too >>>> low. >>> >>> >>> I bought the car with 24,000 miles on it. Since day one up until >>> recently it's always come up to temp and sat the needle about 1/4 >>> inch below the mid line on the guage. I'm thinkig that's normal since >>> it always did it exactly the same way (except one time when the thermo >>> failed stuck open and I couldn't get cabin heat, after it was replaced >>> it went right back to the same place) and it never does come up to the >>> exact half way point. Are you saying it should be at the half mark >>> and it's been off all these years? >> >> >> Where are you measuring the 1/4" from? The very end of the needle? From >> directly across the little thermometer picture? > > I'm eye-balling it, looking at the tip of the needle and the little > horizontal bar on the left side of the guage. > > Yesterday, after the car cooled down for several hours, I took off the > rad cap and could not see any coolant. The recovery tank was also > empty. Having nothing else at my disposal I put about a 2 qts of > water, total, into the rad and the recovery tank to bring things up to > where I understand they should be. I know, I know, I shouldn't use > plain water but I had no choice. > Well, dang if it didn't act a while lot more like what I'd call normal > on the way home. That improved the situation dramatically. > When I got home and let it cool down again, the rad was now full to > the top and the recovery tank only needed about a pint. Things are > looking much better. > The drive in today actually seemed like the normal I described > earlier. > I'll check the recovery tank again and top it off if necessary and > i'll drive the car a few days like this to see if coolant is > disappearing or if it was the "air in the system" problem others have > suggested. > Somebody had suggested possibly a head gasket problem. Possible? > Symptoms? not usually, head gasket mostly retains fluid, just blows bubbles in it. early stages anyway. more likely leaky hose, leaky rad or leaky water pump. > > If the cooling system is not losing coolant (if it ever was) and it > still seems to be working properly, I will definitely get the Honda > coolant and have the system drained and refilled and I'll also get an > OEM thermostat too. > good. |
Re: 95 Accord overheating,
Philip Kline wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> > wrote: > >> Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >> news:l0fnp2hb89g329jbl6je55rse42b8cgm1j@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Philip Kline <pkline@ltdXnospamX.com> wrote in >>>> news:ip6np2drji1378ilim8cu0at9ukdjlnfm7@4ax.com: >>>> >> >>>>> Then, the last mile or so coming off the toll way and into the >>>>> parking lot, the guage continues to rise slowly until I turn the car >>>>> off, but not quite getting up the half way mark. >>>>> >>>>> Could this be just a thermostat? It's driving me crazy! >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like an old thermostat. 1/4" below the half-way mark is too >>>> low. >>> >>> >>> I bought the car with 24,000 miles on it. Since day one up until >>> recently it's always come up to temp and sat the needle about 1/4 >>> inch below the mid line on the guage. I'm thinkig that's normal since >>> it always did it exactly the same way (except one time when the thermo >>> failed stuck open and I couldn't get cabin heat, after it was replaced >>> it went right back to the same place) and it never does come up to the >>> exact half way point. Are you saying it should be at the half mark >>> and it's been off all these years? >> >> >> Where are you measuring the 1/4" from? The very end of the needle? From >> directly across the little thermometer picture? > > I'm eye-balling it, looking at the tip of the needle and the little > horizontal bar on the left side of the guage. > > Yesterday, after the car cooled down for several hours, I took off the > rad cap and could not see any coolant. The recovery tank was also > empty. Having nothing else at my disposal I put about a 2 qts of > water, total, into the rad and the recovery tank to bring things up to > where I understand they should be. I know, I know, I shouldn't use > plain water but I had no choice. > Well, dang if it didn't act a while lot more like what I'd call normal > on the way home. That improved the situation dramatically. > When I got home and let it cool down again, the rad was now full to > the top and the recovery tank only needed about a pint. Things are > looking much better. > The drive in today actually seemed like the normal I described > earlier. > I'll check the recovery tank again and top it off if necessary and > i'll drive the car a few days like this to see if coolant is > disappearing or if it was the "air in the system" problem others have > suggested. > Somebody had suggested possibly a head gasket problem. Possible? > Symptoms? not usually, head gasket mostly retains fluid, just blows bubbles in it. early stages anyway. more likely leaky hose, leaky rad or leaky water pump. > > If the cooling system is not losing coolant (if it ever was) and it > still seems to be working properly, I will definitely get the Honda > coolant and have the system drained and refilled and I'll also get an > OEM thermostat too. > good. |
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