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patbro@gmail.com 09-07-2006 10:57 PM

95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Hi all!
Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went ahead and
engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could smell gas,i hear
the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
What should i look at?
The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
Just looking for input.
Thanks a bunch!!!


Elle 09-07-2006 11:14 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
First two candidates:

If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
replace it.

If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on the
distributor housing as well).

For more info, see
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun

<patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi all!
> Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> ahead and
> engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> smell gas,i hear
> the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> What should i look at?
> The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> Just looking for input.
> Thanks a bunch!!!
>




Elle 09-07-2006 11:14 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
First two candidates:

If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
replace it.

If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on the
distributor housing as well).

For more info, see
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun

<patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi all!
> Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> ahead and
> engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> smell gas,i hear
> the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> What should i look at?
> The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> Just looking for input.
> Thanks a bunch!!!
>




Elle 09-07-2006 11:14 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
First two candidates:

If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
replace it.

If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on the
distributor housing as well).

For more info, see
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun

<patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi all!
> Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> ahead and
> engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> smell gas,i hear
> the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> What should i look at?
> The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> Just looking for input.
> Thanks a bunch!!!
>




patbro@gmail.com 09-07-2006 11:27 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Thanks Elle !
I remember reading something about the igniter at one point around
here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small black
box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one closer to the
firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small crack.I'm
still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will get the part
to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull the codes
out.Someday...
Thanks again!
Elle wrote:
> First two candidates:
>
> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
> replace it.
>
> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on the
> distributor housing as well).
>
> For more info, see
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
>
> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi all!
> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> > ahead and
> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> > smell gas,i hear
> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> > What should i look at?
> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> > Just looking for input.
> > Thanks a bunch!!!
> >



patbro@gmail.com 09-07-2006 11:27 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Thanks Elle !
I remember reading something about the igniter at one point around
here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small black
box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one closer to the
firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small crack.I'm
still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will get the part
to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull the codes
out.Someday...
Thanks again!
Elle wrote:
> First two candidates:
>
> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
> replace it.
>
> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on the
> distributor housing as well).
>
> For more info, see
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
>
> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi all!
> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> > ahead and
> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> > smell gas,i hear
> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> > What should i look at?
> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> > Just looking for input.
> > Thanks a bunch!!!
> >



patbro@gmail.com 09-07-2006 11:27 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Thanks Elle !
I remember reading something about the igniter at one point around
here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small black
box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one closer to the
firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small crack.I'm
still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will get the part
to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull the codes
out.Someday...
Thanks again!
Elle wrote:
> First two candidates:
>
> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
> replace it.
>
> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on the
> distributor housing as well).
>
> For more info, see
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
>
> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi all!
> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> > ahead and
> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> > smell gas,i hear
> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> > What should i look at?
> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> > Just looking for input.
> > Thanks a bunch!!!
> >



Elle 09-07-2006 11:36 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Hi Pat, I do not think a bad igniter sets codes. It's a
common malady discussed here often, plus I've had one go bad
on my 91 Civic, and I don't recall any codes.

Plenty of online Honda manuals and instructions (with
drawings and/or photos!) are available to help with removal
of the igniter /and/ diagnosis of it, BTW. It is definitely
a do-it-yourself job if you're a little handy. Tegger's site
is a good starting point. The following site has links to
online manuals:
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html

If you do replace it, only buy OEM. It can be had from
online parts sites for under $100, generally.

One other thing: When was the car last tuned up (new plugs,
wires, distributor cap and rotor, timing checked, new air
and fuel filters, maybe a new PCV valve)? Were OEM parts
used?

In the past year, I recall two no start or rough running
conditions for Hondas here, and all that was needed was
something like new plugs or wires.

<patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> Thanks Elle !
> I remember reading something about the igniter at one
> point around
> here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small
> black
> box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one
> closer to the
> firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small
> crack.I'm
> still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will
> get the part
> to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull
> the codes
> out.Someday...
> Thanks again!
> Elle wrote:
>> First two candidates:
>>
>> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
>> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
>> replace it.
>>
>> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on
>> the
>> distributor housing as well).
>>
>> For more info, see
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
>>
>> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Hi all!
>> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
>> > ahead and
>> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
>> > smell gas,i hear
>> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
>> > What should i look at?
>> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
>> > Just looking for input.
>> > Thanks a bunch!!!
>> >

>




Elle 09-07-2006 11:36 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Hi Pat, I do not think a bad igniter sets codes. It's a
common malady discussed here often, plus I've had one go bad
on my 91 Civic, and I don't recall any codes.

Plenty of online Honda manuals and instructions (with
drawings and/or photos!) are available to help with removal
of the igniter /and/ diagnosis of it, BTW. It is definitely
a do-it-yourself job if you're a little handy. Tegger's site
is a good starting point. The following site has links to
online manuals:
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html

If you do replace it, only buy OEM. It can be had from
online parts sites for under $100, generally.

One other thing: When was the car last tuned up (new plugs,
wires, distributor cap and rotor, timing checked, new air
and fuel filters, maybe a new PCV valve)? Were OEM parts
used?

In the past year, I recall two no start or rough running
conditions for Hondas here, and all that was needed was
something like new plugs or wires.

<patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> Thanks Elle !
> I remember reading something about the igniter at one
> point around
> here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small
> black
> box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one
> closer to the
> firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small
> crack.I'm
> still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will
> get the part
> to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull
> the codes
> out.Someday...
> Thanks again!
> Elle wrote:
>> First two candidates:
>>
>> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
>> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
>> replace it.
>>
>> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on
>> the
>> distributor housing as well).
>>
>> For more info, see
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
>>
>> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Hi all!
>> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
>> > ahead and
>> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
>> > smell gas,i hear
>> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
>> > What should i look at?
>> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
>> > Just looking for input.
>> > Thanks a bunch!!!
>> >

>




Elle 09-07-2006 11:36 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Hi Pat, I do not think a bad igniter sets codes. It's a
common malady discussed here often, plus I've had one go bad
on my 91 Civic, and I don't recall any codes.

Plenty of online Honda manuals and instructions (with
drawings and/or photos!) are available to help with removal
of the igniter /and/ diagnosis of it, BTW. It is definitely
a do-it-yourself job if you're a little handy. Tegger's site
is a good starting point. The following site has links to
online manuals:
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html

If you do replace it, only buy OEM. It can be had from
online parts sites for under $100, generally.

One other thing: When was the car last tuned up (new plugs,
wires, distributor cap and rotor, timing checked, new air
and fuel filters, maybe a new PCV valve)? Were OEM parts
used?

In the past year, I recall two no start or rough running
conditions for Hondas here, and all that was needed was
something like new plugs or wires.

<patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> Thanks Elle !
> I remember reading something about the igniter at one
> point around
> here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small
> black
> box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one
> closer to the
> firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small
> crack.I'm
> still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will
> get the part
> to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull
> the codes
> out.Someday...
> Thanks again!
> Elle wrote:
>> First two candidates:
>>
>> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
>> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
>> replace it.
>>
>> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on
>> the
>> distributor housing as well).
>>
>> For more info, see
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
>>
>> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Hi all!
>> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
>> > ahead and
>> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
>> > smell gas,i hear
>> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
>> > What should i look at?
>> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
>> > Just looking for input.
>> > Thanks a bunch!!!
>> >

>




'Curly Q. Links' 09-07-2006 11:53 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
patbro@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went ahead and
> engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could smell gas,i hear
> the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> What should i look at?
> The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> Just looking for input.
> Thanks a bunch!!!


---------------------------------------

Look in the oil filler cap and see if anything rotates when a friend
gives the starter a spin for a couple seconds. You may have a broken
timing belt.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 09-07-2006 11:53 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
patbro@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went ahead and
> engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could smell gas,i hear
> the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> What should i look at?
> The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> Just looking for input.
> Thanks a bunch!!!


---------------------------------------

Look in the oil filler cap and see if anything rotates when a friend
gives the starter a spin for a couple seconds. You may have a broken
timing belt.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 09-07-2006 11:53 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
patbro@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went ahead and
> engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could smell gas,i hear
> the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> What should i look at?
> The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> Just looking for input.
> Thanks a bunch!!!


---------------------------------------

Look in the oil filler cap and see if anything rotates when a friend
gives the starter a spin for a couple seconds. You may have a broken
timing belt.

'Curly'

patbro@gmail.com 09-07-2006 11:54 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Last tune up was spring of 2006(not long ago).Only the wire and plug
were repalced with NGK(along the normal stuff/filters/oil...).Timing
belt/water pump was done 2 month ago.Timing is fine.
I've own the car for 3 years now(167000km/203000km now).
The main repair was the head gasket last year beside that it was all
normal use and wear and tear.Yes i only use gunuine Honda parts on my
civic.I put a cheaper upper tab on it 2 years ago and it lasted less
than 3 month.
I'm feeling confident it is that igniter.I will keep you posted.Thanks
again for the help.
PaT
Elle wrote:
> Hi Pat, I do not think a bad igniter sets codes. It's a
> common malady discussed here often, plus I've had one go bad
> on my 91 Civic, and I don't recall any codes.
>
> Plenty of online Honda manuals and instructions (with
> drawings and/or photos!) are available to help with removal
> of the igniter /and/ diagnosis of it, BTW. It is definitely
> a do-it-yourself job if you're a little handy. Tegger's site
> is a good starting point. The following site has links to
> online manuals:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html
>
> If you do replace it, only buy OEM. It can be had from
> online parts sites for under $100, generally.
>
> One other thing: When was the car last tuned up (new plugs,
> wires, distributor cap and rotor, timing checked, new air
> and fuel filters, maybe a new PCV valve)? Were OEM parts
> used?
>
> In the past year, I recall two no start or rough running
> conditions for Hondas here, and all that was needed was
> something like new plugs or wires.
>
> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> > Thanks Elle !
> > I remember reading something about the igniter at one
> > point around
> > here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small
> > black
> > box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one
> > closer to the
> > firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small
> > crack.I'm
> > still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will
> > get the part
> > to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull
> > the codes
> > out.Someday...
> > Thanks again!
> > Elle wrote:
> >> First two candidates:
> >>
> >> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
> >> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
> >> replace it.
> >>
> >> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on
> >> the
> >> distributor housing as well).
> >>
> >> For more info, see
> >> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
> >>
> >> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> >> > Hi all!
> >> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> >> > ahead and
> >> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> >> > smell gas,i hear
> >> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> >> > What should i look at?
> >> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> >> > Just looking for input.
> >> > Thanks a bunch!!!
> >> >

> >



patbro@gmail.com 09-07-2006 11:54 PM

Re: 95 Civic CX no sparks
 
Last tune up was spring of 2006(not long ago).Only the wire and plug
were repalced with NGK(along the normal stuff/filters/oil...).Timing
belt/water pump was done 2 month ago.Timing is fine.
I've own the car for 3 years now(167000km/203000km now).
The main repair was the head gasket last year beside that it was all
normal use and wear and tear.Yes i only use gunuine Honda parts on my
civic.I put a cheaper upper tab on it 2 years ago and it lasted less
than 3 month.
I'm feeling confident it is that igniter.I will keep you posted.Thanks
again for the help.
PaT
Elle wrote:
> Hi Pat, I do not think a bad igniter sets codes. It's a
> common malady discussed here often, plus I've had one go bad
> on my 91 Civic, and I don't recall any codes.
>
> Plenty of online Honda manuals and instructions (with
> drawings and/or photos!) are available to help with removal
> of the igniter /and/ diagnosis of it, BTW. It is definitely
> a do-it-yourself job if you're a little handy. Tegger's site
> is a good starting point. The following site has links to
> online manuals:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html
>
> If you do replace it, only buy OEM. It can be had from
> online parts sites for under $100, generally.
>
> One other thing: When was the car last tuned up (new plugs,
> wires, distributor cap and rotor, timing checked, new air
> and fuel filters, maybe a new PCV valve)? Were OEM parts
> used?
>
> In the past year, I recall two no start or rough running
> conditions for Hondas here, and all that was needed was
> something like new plugs or wires.
>
> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> > Thanks Elle !
> > I remember reading something about the igniter at one
> > point around
> > here...i did take the distributor cap off and see 2 small
> > black
> > box.Likely the igniter and ignition coil.I notice the one
> > closer to the
> > firewall(inside the housing) has what looks like a small
> > crack.I'm
> > still gonna get the codes pull out to make sure and will
> > get the part
> > to fix it myself.I just with i had my own computer to pull
> > the codes
> > out.Someday...
> > Thanks again!
> > Elle wrote:
> >> First two candidates:
> >>
> >> If the car refuses to start, igniter (on the distributor
> >> housing). Roughly $100 part, plus another $50 to $100 to
> >> replace it.
> >>
> >> If this has happened before, ignition coil (mounted on
> >> the
> >> distributor housing as well).
> >>
> >> For more info, see
> >> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun
> >>
> >> <patbro@gmail.com> wrote
> >> > Hi all!
> >> > Everything was working fine,came to a stop sign,ok went
> >> > ahead and
> >> > engine died totally.It will crank no problems,i could
> >> > smell gas,i hear
> >> > the pump pumping the gas but no spark.
> >> > What should i look at?
> >> > The car is going on ther computer Friday sometimes.
> >> > Just looking for input.
> >> > Thanks a bunch!!!
> >> >

> >




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