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Khan 01-12-2007 06:40 AM

'95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Hi all!

Own a '95 Honda Rafaga (aka Ascot) car. About a month ago, right after
the winter cold weather hit hard, my Honda's ABS started to work in a
somewhat strange manner. While the engine is cold, i.e. after a day or
night at open air parking lot, and I start the car, the ABS goes
through check ok, the ABS lamp on the dashboard goes off, and ABS
system works perfectly, helping me out on our icy roads. But when the
engine is warm or hot (after a short stop at groceries, etc.), I start
the car, hear the noise of ABS pump building the pressure, but the ABS
lamp stays lit, ABS shuts down, and leaves me and my car almost
helpless on ice.
The question is: what might be the problem of such unusual behavior?


motsco_ 01-12-2007 09:53 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Own a '95 Honda Rafaga (aka Ascot) car. About a month ago, right after
> the winter cold weather hit hard, my Honda's ABS started to work in a
> somewhat strange manner. While the engine is cold, i.e. after a day or
> night at open air parking lot, and I start the car, the ABS goes
> through check ok, the ABS lamp on the dashboard goes off, and ABS
> system works perfectly, helping me out on our icy roads. But when the
> engine is warm or hot (after a short stop at groceries, etc.), I start
> the car, hear the noise of ABS pump building the pressure, but the ABS
> lamp stays lit, ABS shuts down, and leaves me and my car almost
> helpless on ice.
> The question is: what might be the problem of such unusual behavior?
>

-----------------------------------

While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
can DIY. You might want to do the brakes as well if they are due. The
'95 is prone to getting bits of contamination in the orifices of the ABS
but the newer version (+97) was completely redesigned and it cycles the
solenoids during the diagnostic to allow any dirt or corrosion to settle
outside the orifices. A few years ago I used google and found a great
web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

'Curly'

motsco_ 01-12-2007 09:53 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Own a '95 Honda Rafaga (aka Ascot) car. About a month ago, right after
> the winter cold weather hit hard, my Honda's ABS started to work in a
> somewhat strange manner. While the engine is cold, i.e. after a day or
> night at open air parking lot, and I start the car, the ABS goes
> through check ok, the ABS lamp on the dashboard goes off, and ABS
> system works perfectly, helping me out on our icy roads. But when the
> engine is warm or hot (after a short stop at groceries, etc.), I start
> the car, hear the noise of ABS pump building the pressure, but the ABS
> lamp stays lit, ABS shuts down, and leaves me and my car almost
> helpless on ice.
> The question is: what might be the problem of such unusual behavior?
>

-----------------------------------

While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
can DIY. You might want to do the brakes as well if they are due. The
'95 is prone to getting bits of contamination in the orifices of the ABS
but the newer version (+97) was completely redesigned and it cycles the
solenoids during the diagnostic to allow any dirt or corrosion to settle
outside the orifices. A few years ago I used google and found a great
web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

'Curly'

motsco_ 01-12-2007 09:53 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Own a '95 Honda Rafaga (aka Ascot) car. About a month ago, right after
> the winter cold weather hit hard, my Honda's ABS started to work in a
> somewhat strange manner. While the engine is cold, i.e. after a day or
> night at open air parking lot, and I start the car, the ABS goes
> through check ok, the ABS lamp on the dashboard goes off, and ABS
> system works perfectly, helping me out on our icy roads. But when the
> engine is warm or hot (after a short stop at groceries, etc.), I start
> the car, hear the noise of ABS pump building the pressure, but the ABS
> lamp stays lit, ABS shuts down, and leaves me and my car almost
> helpless on ice.
> The question is: what might be the problem of such unusual behavior?
>

-----------------------------------

While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
can DIY. You might want to do the brakes as well if they are due. The
'95 is prone to getting bits of contamination in the orifices of the ABS
but the newer version (+97) was completely redesigned and it cycles the
solenoids during the diagnostic to allow any dirt or corrosion to settle
outside the orifices. A few years ago I used google and found a great
web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

'Curly'

motsco_ 01-12-2007 09:53 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Own a '95 Honda Rafaga (aka Ascot) car. About a month ago, right after
> the winter cold weather hit hard, my Honda's ABS started to work in a
> somewhat strange manner. While the engine is cold, i.e. after a day or
> night at open air parking lot, and I start the car, the ABS goes
> through check ok, the ABS lamp on the dashboard goes off, and ABS
> system works perfectly, helping me out on our icy roads. But when the
> engine is warm or hot (after a short stop at groceries, etc.), I start
> the car, hear the noise of ABS pump building the pressure, but the ABS
> lamp stays lit, ABS shuts down, and leaves me and my car almost
> helpless on ice.
> The question is: what might be the problem of such unusual behavior?
>

-----------------------------------

While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
can DIY. You might want to do the brakes as well if they are due. The
'95 is prone to getting bits of contamination in the orifices of the ABS
but the newer version (+97) was completely redesigned and it cycles the
solenoids during the diagnostic to allow any dirt or corrosion to settle
outside the orifices. A few years ago I used google and found a great
web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

'Curly'

Khan 01-17-2007 04:45 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Curly,

> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
> can DIY.


Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
with the procedure.


A few years ago I used google and found a great
> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.


Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.

Thanks again
Khan.


Khan 01-17-2007 04:45 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Curly,

> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
> can DIY.


Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
with the procedure.


A few years ago I used google and found a great
> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.


Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.

Thanks again
Khan.


Khan 01-17-2007 04:45 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Curly,

> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
> can DIY.


Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
with the procedure.


A few years ago I used google and found a great
> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.


Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.

Thanks again
Khan.


Khan 01-17-2007 04:45 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Curly,

> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
> can DIY.


Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
with the procedure.


A few years ago I used google and found a great
> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.


Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.

Thanks again
Khan.


motsco_ 01-17-2007 11:27 PM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Curly,
>
>> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
>> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
>> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
>> can DIY.

>
> Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
> with the procedure.
>
>
> A few years ago I used google and found a great
>> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
>> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

>
> Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.
>
> Thanks again
> Khan.
>

=====================================

Here's a bit more: http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24372
Look in the document for 'curly' and here's a string of terms to google
for: abs accord legend accumulator (you'll get some good hits)

'Curly'


motsco_ 01-17-2007 11:27 PM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Curly,
>
>> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
>> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
>> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
>> can DIY.

>
> Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
> with the procedure.
>
>
> A few years ago I used google and found a great
>> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
>> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

>
> Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.
>
> Thanks again
> Khan.
>

=====================================

Here's a bit more: http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24372
Look in the document for 'curly' and here's a string of terms to google
for: abs accord legend accumulator (you'll get some good hits)

'Curly'


motsco_ 01-17-2007 11:27 PM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Curly,
>
>> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
>> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
>> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
>> can DIY.

>
> Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
> with the procedure.
>
>
> A few years ago I used google and found a great
>> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
>> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

>
> Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.
>
> Thanks again
> Khan.
>

=====================================

Here's a bit more: http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24372
Look in the document for 'curly' and here's a string of terms to google
for: abs accord legend accumulator (you'll get some good hits)

'Curly'


motsco_ 01-17-2007 11:27 PM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
Khan wrote:
> Curly,
>
>> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
>> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
>> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
>> can DIY.

>
> Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
> with the procedure.
>
>
> A few years ago I used google and found a great
>> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
>> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

>
> Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.
>
> Thanks again
> Khan.
>

=====================================

Here's a bit more: http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24372
Look in the document for 'curly' and here's a string of terms to google
for: abs accord legend accumulator (you'll get some good hits)

'Curly'


motsco_ 01-18-2007 12:00 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
motsco_ wrote:
> Khan wrote:
>> Curly,
>>
>>> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
>>> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
>>> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
>>> can DIY.

>>
>> Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
>> with the procedure.
>>
>>
>> A few years ago I used google and found a great
>>> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
>>> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

>>
>> Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.
>>
>> Thanks again
>> Khan.
>>

> =====================================
>
> Here's a bit more: http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24372
> Look in the document for 'curly' and here's a string of terms to google
> for: abs accord legend accumulator (you'll get some good hits)
>
> 'Curly'

=====================================

By the way, the site you're looking for says TECH 2 TECH on the top of
the page.

'Curly'

motsco_ 01-18-2007 12:00 AM

Re: '95 Honda Rafaga (Ascot) ABS problem
 
motsco_ wrote:
> Khan wrote:
>> Curly,
>>
>>> While you're able to get it to function (cold days) you need to get the
>>> ABS unit drained / refilled, then take it out and EXERCISE the heck out
>>> of it on some ice. Then do it again to flush all the crud. A handy guy
>>> can DIY.

>>
>> Thanks, will try to get some tech guys at car repair to help me out
>> with the procedure.
>>
>>
>> A few years ago I used google and found a great
>>> web site that's about 6 pages long describing all the various versions
>>> of ABS that Honda has used. I'll forward it if I can locate it again.

>>
>> Would greatly appreciate forwarded website URL or the info.
>>
>> Thanks again
>> Khan.
>>

> =====================================
>
> Here's a bit more: http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24372
> Look in the document for 'curly' and here's a string of terms to google
> for: abs accord legend accumulator (you'll get some good hits)
>
> 'Curly'

=====================================

By the way, the site you're looking for says TECH 2 TECH on the top of
the page.

'Curly'


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